Feminist comediennes banned from facebook

[Owlswing]

Apparently a feminist comedienne was about to appear on stage but couldn't because she 'felt a little funny'. Her manager told her to get on before it wore off.

That one wasn't funny the first seven or eight times you used it. It's worn out, if you can't get a new one stop trying.

[Owlswing]

Are you going to remove your accusation of Misogyny?

Why should they?

When are you going to remove all your lies about what Christ said and did (allegedly)

[Nearly Sane]

He says that joke about everybody.

But not in a way that refers to their sex.

[jeremyp]

I'm aware of that but still hear the words, "Comedienne", and, "Actress" used. I didn't realise there was such controversy about it & don't understand why.

No neither do I. I'm just explaining the situation.

[Rhiannon]

Just running this past my girls, they didn’t even know there’s a feminine firm of the word ‘comedian’. It’s as outdated as Benny Hill.

[Robbie]

Thanks jeremy.
(Rhi, who's, or where's Benny Hill?  )

[Owlswing]

Thanks jeremy.
(Rhi, who's, or where's Benny Hill?  )

Gone from our screens but still working with Tommy Cooper and the Two Ronnies.

[Robbie]

We have something to look forward to then  .

[Nearly Sane]

I'm aware of that but still hear the words, "Comedienne", and, "Actress" used. I didn't realise there was such controversy about it & don't understand why.

Because the sex of the person is irrelevant.  And it's not something just about performers. It's been a staple argument in feminism that job titles shouldn't be about the sex of the person doing it.

[Nearly Sane]

"Comedian" is now frequently used to refer to either male or female comics. It's the same as the distinction between "actor" and "actress".  People generally don't talk about actresses anymore, even though it is much less of a mouthful than "female actor".

Why would they need to use the term "female actor" as opposed to actor?

[Rhiannon]

Because the sex of the person is irrelevant.  And it's not something just about performers. It's been a staple argument in feminism that job titles shouldn't be about the sex of the person doing it.

Police officer.

Firefighter

Head teacher.

Etc etc etc.

When a term is deliberately used that feminists object to in a thread about feminists, there’s a reason.

[Rhiannon]

Why would they need to use the term "female actor" as opposed to actor?

The Oscars/Baftas etc.

An industry well known for supporting women. Oh no, it’s the other thing. Not supporting them. That one.

[Owlswing]

We have something to look forward to then  .

You want to see the length of the queue for tickets!

[Sebastian Toe]

Just running this past my girls, they didn’t even know there’s a feminine firm of the word ‘comedian’. It’s as outdated as Benny Hill.

Yet still used by many major communications companies!?

[Nearly Sane]

Yet still used by many major communications companies!?

I haven't seen it in a while and even if it is, it wasn't in the article. Further as already covered, this type of gender specifuc titling is something that has been fought against as part of feminism consistently.

[Nearly Sane]

Police officer.

Firefighter

Head teacher.

Etc etc etc.

When a term is deliberately used that feminists object to in a thread about feminists, there’s a reason.

Agree, and given it took a specific change from the article, it is underlined here.

[Sebastian Toe]

I haven't seen it in a while and even if it is, it wasn't in the article. Further as already covered, this type of gender specifuc titling is something that has been fought against as part of feminism consistently.

All I was pointing out is that if it is used by BBC SKY ITV Independent Guardian etc then it perhaps nor as archaic as stated.

[Nearly Sane]

All I was pointing out is that if it is used by BBC SKY ITV Independent Guardian etc then it perhaps nor as archaic as stated.

I think archaic is the wrong term but certainly it is out of favour, and the deliberate use here and the tone of the posts seem to be designed to show a sexist approach.

[Rhiannon]

I think archaic is the wrong term but certainly it is out of favour, and the deliberate use here and the tone of the posts seem to be designed to show a sexist approach.

Anachronistic?

[Nearly Sane]

Anachronistic?

Yep, that makes sense. Tbh, I don't see what we call the use of the term important. If someone were on the comedy circuit, it would be looked on with horror and mere wummery.

[Sebastian Toe]

If someone were on the comedy circuit, it would be looked on with horror and mere wummery.

Currently described comedy artist on circuit;

http://www.chortle.co.uk/comics/l/33955/lou_sanders

From the current British comedy guide

http://tinyurl.com/ybw6kuhj

A poster from the Edinburgh Festival this year

http://tinyurl.com/y94msfg9

More from the Festival

http://tinyurl.com/ycjrv2ft

[Nearly Sane]

Currently described comedy artist on circuit;

http://www.chortle.co.uk/comics/l/33955/lou_sanders

From the current British comedy guide

http://tinyurl.com/ybw6kuhj

A poster from the Edinburgh Festival this year

http://tinyurl.com/y94msfg9

More from the Festival

http://tinyurl.com/ycjrv2ft

Good points. It just seems odd to me given how much comedy I heard talking about there being no difference. I am surprised at it being used by The Stand.

[jeremyp]

Why would they need to use the term "female actor" as opposed to actor?

There are situations still where you need to distinguish the gender.

"Sarah Bernhardt was the first actor to play Hamlet" - blatantly untrue

"Sarah Bernhardt was the first actress to play Hamlet" - a notable point

[jeremyp]

Anachronistic?

No, just "out of favour" works pretty well.

The thing is, you are busy here trying to police people's language and it has derailed the thread which was about something far more important than "are we allowed to say comedienne?", namely Facebook's apparently sexist behaviour against a female comedian.

[Humph Warden Bennett]

You come over as a sexist and homophobic Moderator: content removed !

I fail to see how using a feminine term to describe women makes me a sexist and homophobic Moderator content removed.