Christine Keeler dead

[Nearly Sane]

 Being a bit too young to have lived through the scandal, it's always seemed further off in time than it actually was.



http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-42245839

[Rhiannon]

I always remember her appearing on a tv show of some kind, and my family’s outrage.

[Robbie]

I remember, when her name came up about something, my parents explaining it to me and my mum telling me she was very much maligned and carried the can (if not in those words).

[Rhiannon]

My mum was terribly judgemental. I feel differently. She must have been incredibly strong.

[Harrowby Hall]

I believe that the Beeb is planning a drama about the Profumo affair to be broadcast sometime in the Spring.

[floo]

I remember the Profumo affair very well, it was all over the news, I was 13 at the time.

[Udayana]

I remember the Profumo affair very well, it was all over the news, I was 13 at the time.

Sure .. but did it have any effect on you? I was a bit younger but I think that is what started off or at least coincided with puberty for me. Just as the Kennedy assassination kicked off an awareness of politics.  And the Beatles an awareness of pop.
 

[floo]

Sure .. but did it have any effect on you? I was a bit younger but I think that is what started off or at least coincided with puberty for me. Just as the Kennedy assassination kicked off an awareness of politics.  And the Beatles an awareness of pop.

Why would it have any effect on me at the age of 13? Besides which, I wasn't even living in the UK at that time.

[Udayana]

... so not of any real interest?

[Owlswing]

I remember the Profumo affair very well, it was all over the news, I was 13 at the time.

I was 17 and it wasn't just Christine Keeler and Profumo who were involved, some mebers of the aristocracy and other politicians were involved and most of them made themselves scarce when the excrement hit the riotary ventilation device.

Keeler, Mandy Rice-Davies (sic?) and a doctor whose name I forget were the main players in the "drama"!

[Enki]

Sure .. but did it have any effect on you? I was a bit younger but I think that is what started off or at least coincided with puberty for me. Just as the Kennedy assassination kicked off an awareness of politics.  And the Beatles an awareness of pop.

Being about 20 at that time I began to develop a real interest in politics around the time of the Profumo Affair. I don't know if it was this that kicked my interest off or the Sharpeville massacre, but soon after I joined the Labour party, CND and the Anti Apartheid movement, all of which I later left. Basically I was pretty naive but had a real anger against the Macmillan(and then the Alec Douglas Hume) establishment.

Nowadays, I'm afraid, I haven't got any time for politicians of any party.

[Rhiannon]

I was 17 and it wasn't just Christine Keeler and Profumo who were involved, some mebers of the aristocracy and other politicians were involved and most of them made themselves scarce when the excrement hit the riotary ventilation device.

Keeler, Mandy Rice-Davies (sic?) and a doctor whose name I forget were the main players in the "drama"!

Poor Stephen Ward and the Astors.

Rather oddly Andrew Lloyd Webber made a musical about it.

[Owlswing]

Being about 20 at that time I began to develop a real interest in politics around the time of the Profumo Affair. I don't know if it was this that kicked my interest off or the Sharpeville massacre, but soon after I joined the Labour party, CND and the Anti Apartheid movement, all of which I later left. Basically I was pretty naive but had a real anger against the Macmillan(and then the Alec Douglas Hume) establishment.

Nowadays, I'm afraid, I haven't got any time for politicians of any party.

That makes two of us!

[Owlswing]

Poor Stephen Ward and the Astors.

Rather oddly Andrew Lloyd Webber made a musical about it.

Sir Andrew would make a musical about the Holocaust if he thought that there was a buck to be made from it!

[Shaker]

Sir Andrew would make a musical about the Holocaust if he thought that there was a buck to be made from it!

That's Lord Lloyd Webber to you, sonny 

[Rhiannon]

http://newsthump.com/2017/12/06/death-of-christine-keeler-triggers-nostalgia-for-a-time-where-sex-scandals-were-glamorous/

[Shaker]

He explained, “Imagine London in the swinging sixties and a gorgeous model at the centre of a complex web of lust and deceit featuring an English aristocrat and a Soviet naval attache.

“Add a fearless journalist and a ruthless political operator and you’ve got a great novel.

“Now, instead of that, picture Damien Green having a wank hunched over his laptop. Not quite the same, isn’t it?

[wigginhall]

I remember it all well, and I think like others it sparked a kind of political awakening for me.   I do remember Stephen Ward, who committed suicide, after being prosecuted, and was felt by many to be a fall-guy.   It was said that police stood outside his consulting rooms (he was an osteopath), asking people coming out if he had been 'improper'.   So not the first or last to be fitted up during a moral panic. 

[Owlswing]

That's Lord Lloyd Webber to you, sonny 

Yes, Daddy.

Sorry, Daddy.

Should I go and sit on the naughty step, Daddy?

[floo]

A sexist creep on another forum blamed Keeler for leading the men on. She was 19 when she had a brief affair with Profumo in 1961, who at 27 should have been old enough to know better!

[Nearly Sane]

A sexist creep on another forum blamed Keeler for leading the men on. She was 19 when she had a brief affair with Profumo in 1961, who at 27 should have been old enough to know better!

He would have been 45 at the time. (Other fora are the business of other fora)

[floo]

He would have been 45 at the time. (Other fora are the business of other fora)

WHOOPS of course he was born in 1915! Even more reason why he should have known better.

[Nearly Sane]

WHOOPS of course he was born in 1915! Even more reason why he should have known better.

Even in 1961 a 27 year old with that haircut?

[Robbie]

Being about 20 at that time I began to develop a real interest in politics around the time of the Profumo Affair. I don't know if it was this that kicked my interest off or the Sharpeville massacre, but soon after I joined the Labour party, CND and the Anti Apartheid movement, all of which I later left. Basically I was pretty naive but had a real anger against the Macmillan(and then the Alec Douglas Hume) establishment.

Nowadays, I'm afraid, I haven't got any time for politicians of any party.

Oh wow, it really did make an impression on you.  Two of my older cousins (thirteen and fifteen at the time of the Profumo scandal though that may not be relevant), and my parents were very active in CND and later on the anti-Apartheid movement.  I too joined when I was about 14 I think but that was at least ten years later.

PS - Sorry enki this is all a bit irrelevant. I was going to say more but was interrupted & now forgotten what I meant to say.

[ippy]

There's a film called 'Scandal', it's about the Profumo affair, if you ever get to see it, there's a brothel/party type scene with a gent handing out drinks etc and he's wearing an apron, that's it an apron, see if you can guess who who it is that it's said this man was supposed to be.

I'm purposely not saying, you never know, it could possibly cause me some trouble, please name away if anyone wants to risk it.

regards ippy