False accusation

[Owlswing]

He hasn't said all coppers are bent, not at all.
(The Stephen Lawrence case doesn't seem that long ago to most people who live not far away.)

He hasn't? Then why i=use the all-inclusuive term "the Plod"?

Why not say "some policemen", or "some officers"?

No, it is just "the Plod"!

[Humph Warden Bennett]

That was 34 years ago and, thankfully, a lot has changed in that regard since then!

If you have to go back that far to prove your case it is a pretty weak case.

I do not, and will never, argue that all coppers are perfect, you only have to look at the idiot in the latest two rape cases to see that is, unfortunately not true, but nor will I, as you appear to be doing, make out that they are all bent!

OK, the processes for dealing with the rotten ones is under review and knowing the new Commissioner of the Met some coppers are goig to come a cropper - but not ALL coppers!

And as with a lot of thinbgs you throw enough shit and some sticks ecven to t he inmnocent.

Have you been on the mead? 1993 was twenty four years ago, not thirty four.

[Humph Warden Bennett]

He hasn't? Then why i=use the all-inclusuive term "the Plod"?

Why not say "some policemen", or "some officers"?

No, it is just "the Plod"!

"Plod" is a comparatively polite term compared to some that my generation use.

And since when has a Police Constable been an officer?

[floo]

"Plod" is a comparatively polite term compared to some that my generation use.

And since when has a Police Constable been an officer?

Plod is an unpleasant term! I have no problem with referring to them as police officers.

Some years ago I used to be a lay visitor to the police stations checking on conditions in the custody suites. I have great respect for most of the police officers I met during that time, it isn't an easy job.

[Owlswing]

Plod is an unpleasant term! I have no problem with referring to them as police officers.

Some years ago I used to be a lay visitor to the police stations checking on conditions in the custody suites. I have great respect for most of the police officers I met during that time, it isn't an easy job.

Give it up, Littleroses - arguing this with HWB is like arguing Christianity with Alan Burns!

As I said before, he condemns all coppers but will bleat "please Mr Policeman, help me" when he's burgled or robbed.

[floo]

Give it up, Littleroses - arguing this with HWB is like arguing Christianity with Alan Burns!

As I said before, he condemns all coppers but will bleat "please Mr Policeman, help me" when he's burgled or robbed.

Yep!

[Robbie]

Nothing wrong with "Plod", as a collective term.
I've heard the force called really unpleasant things, not used those terms myself but they are commonly used.
"Plod", comes from Noddy stories.  You can't get more benign than that.

Makes me laugh that you had an official 'lay visitor', inspecting position, LR. How were you chosen?

Owl: "...he condemns all coppers but will bleat "please Mr Policeman, help me" when he's burgled or robbed."

Nobody is condemning all coppers! They are not above scrutiny though. You are too sensitive about them because your son is a police officer.

Yes we'd all call the police if we were robbed, then wait five hours for a junior officer to turn up who does nothing.

[floo]

Nothing wrong with "Plod", as a collective term.
I've heard the force called really unpleasant things, not used those terms myself but they are commonly used.
"Plod", comes from Noddy stories.  You can't get more benign than that.

Makes me laugh that you had an official 'lay visitor', inspecting position, LR. How were you chosen?

Owl: "...he condemns all coppers but will bleat "please Mr Policeman, help me" when he's burgled or robbed."

Nobody is condemning all coppers! They are not above scrutiny though. You are too sensitive about them because your son is a police officer.

Yes we'd all call the police if we were robbed, then wait five hours for a junior officer to turn up who does nothing.

Plod is not a benign term any longer, if it ever was, which I doubt, even in the Noddy books!

Why does it make you laugh that I was a lay visitor to the police stations in our area?

[Shaker]

Plod is not a benign term any longer, if it ever was, which I doubt, even in the Noddy books!

Why not?

[floo]

Why not?

It is used as a derogatory term, I have never heard it used in any other way.

[Shaker]

Derogatory? News to me.

If you want derogatory terms for the police I can supply you with a hundredweight of them, but that isn't one.

[floo]

Derogatory? News to me.

If you want derogatory terms for the police I can supply you with a hundredweight of them, but that isn't one.

We will have to agree to differ.

[Robbie]

Plod is not a benign term any longer, if it ever was, which I doubt, even in the Noddy books!

Why does it make you laugh that I was a lay visitor to the police stations in our area?

'Plod' is extremely benign; filth,fuzz, Babylon, pigs, 5 'O', gestapo, etc are not benign terms. (Would you have wanted a daughter of yours to marry one?)

I wonder why you were chosen as a lay visitor to police cells is all. What do you know that no-one else does (apart from believing that the inmates are 'evil scum') which qualifies you for that? It's hilarious.

Agree with Shaker.

[floo]

'Plod' is extremely benign; filth,fuzz, Babylon, pigs etc are not benign terms. Would you have wanted a daughter of yours to marry one?

I wonder why you were chosen as a lay visitor to police visitor is all. What do you know that no-one else does (apart from believing that the inmates are 'evil scum') which qualifies you for that?

Agree with Shaker.

As usual you have no idea what you are talking about where I am concerned. Suffice to say apparently my term of office as a lay visitor was appreciated.

[Robbie]

Did the inmates appreciate you or the Plod?

(PS - apologies if I was a bit blunt.)

[Owlswing]

'Plod' is extremely benign;

Ever ask a copper if he feels it to be benign?

[Humph Warden Bennett]

'Plod' is extremely benign; filth,fuzz, Babylon, pigs, 5 'O', gestapo, etc are not benign terms. (Would you have wanted a daughter of yours to marry one?)

I wonder why you were chosen as a lay visitor to police visitor is all. What do you know that no-one else does (apart from believing that the inmates are 'evil scum') which qualifies you for that? It's hilarious.

Agree with Shaker.

I am reminded of a piece that I read in the Graun some years ago, about a lady whose speech to the Tory Party Conference on a motion about crime and punishment included the words "I am not too concerned about prisoners welfare. Perhaps I should be."

Apparently she was a member of a parole board.

[Humph Warden Bennett]

Ever ask a copper if he feels it to be benign?

Security Guards, Ticket Inspectors, and Doormen receive just as much, if not more, grief than does the average plod.

The difference is that the first three groups have to take it, the average plod can seriously fuck up somebodies life-and they know it.

[Robbie]

Exactly, but there are some decent ones.  I mean, they're not all racist thugs.

As usual you have no idea what you are talking about where I am concerned. Suffice to say apparently my term of office as a lay visitor was appreciated.

You are funny LR.

[Humph Warden Bennett]

Exactly, but there are some decent ones.  I mean, they're not all racist thugs.

Whoever said that plod are racist? When we were teenagers (nineteen seventies) , plod would happily harass & beat us up, the only difference was that we whites were just humiliated and/or beaten up, our black friends were not only humiliated and/or beaten up, they were prosecuted too, a la "Causing Criminal Damage to Police Property by damaging a policeman's boot with his teeth, contrary to Section 94 of the ........".

[Robbie]

Well you're one or two up on me, Humph.  I was never beaten up by the Plod.  Still time I suppose......

[Humph Warden Bennett]

In those days girls were insulted, not assaulted.

[jeremyp]

In those days girls were insulted, not assaulted.

No, they were assaulted but that was considered just a bit of fun back then.