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Nearly Sane

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'What about men?'
« on: January 04, 2018, 12:31:42 PM »
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http://www.victimfocus.org.uk/blog/4593418266

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Re: 'What about men?'
« Reply #1 on: January 04, 2018, 01:24:33 PM »
Eloquent blog on whataboutmenery.



http://www.victimfocus.org.uk/blog/4593418266

What tends to happen is that feminists write about something such as domestic violence, potential supporters point out that the same affects men & boys as well as women & girls, and then some (not all) feminists carry on as if their ball has been taken away.


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« Reply #2 on: January 04, 2018, 01:35:53 PM »
What tends to happen is that feminists write about something such as domestic violence, potential supporters point out that the same affects men & boys as well as women & girls, and then some (not all) feminists carry on as if their ball has been taken away.


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« Reply #3 on: January 04, 2018, 01:44:49 PM »
Thank you, I will wear that badge with pride.

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« Reply #4 on: January 04, 2018, 01:48:57 PM »
Thank you, I will wear that badge with pride.
it goes along with the Didn't read the article badge and Just hit the table with my knee t shirt.

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« Reply #5 on: January 04, 2018, 02:08:00 PM »
Eloquent blog on whataboutmenery.



http://www.victimfocus.org.uk/blog/4593418266
NS, you've got too much time on your hands  ::)

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Re: 'What about men?'
« Reply #6 on: January 04, 2018, 02:12:01 PM »
NS, you've got too much time on your hands  ::)
No, I'm just very quick

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« Reply #7 on: January 04, 2018, 02:55:08 PM »
No, I'm just very quick
so it's not just a rumour then  ;)

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« Reply #8 on: January 04, 2018, 03:02:57 PM »
Sharp article.   I think whataboutery is rife on the internet.  If you talk about X, somebody usually pops up and asks 'what about Y?'.   OK, sometimes it's OK to have a comparison, but more often, I think it's a deliberate derail.   You will find it on a thread not a million miles away from here.

I'm not all that surprised by the reactions she got.   Some men have a weird mixture of entitlement and inferiority, see some of the men's rights people.
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« Reply #9 on: January 04, 2018, 03:05:45 PM »
so it's not just a rumour then  ;)
That I'm fast  at reading - nope. It does on occasion lead to a premature ejaculation of 'Oh FFS!'  but then that's the benefit. Any comment on the article?

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« Reply #10 on: January 04, 2018, 03:24:36 PM »
That I'm fast  at reading - nope. It does on occasion lead to a premature ejaculation of 'Oh FFS!'  but then that's the benefit. Any comment on the article?
what? like I don't know why her husband allows her to write articles and publish them while he's sitting at the table with an empty plate waiting for his dinner . I don't know what the world's coming to !

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Re: 'What about men?'
« Reply #11 on: January 05, 2018, 06:59:15 PM »
It's an interesting article about sexism and I agree with a lot of it...

... but what about racism?
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« Reply #12 on: January 05, 2018, 07:05:11 PM »
It's an interesting article about sexism and I agree with a lot of it...

... but what about racism?

Jeremy,

Feminists do not care about racism, any more than feminists care about the disabled.

Feminists care about the XX population, the rest do not matter.

Because the rest of us no not matter, because the rest of us have "privilege".

Don't take my word, ask a feminist.

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« Reply #13 on: January 05, 2018, 07:06:39 PM »
Jeremy,

Feminists do not care about racism, any more than feminists care about the disabled.

Feminists care about the XX population, the rest do not matter.

Because the rest of us no not matter, because the rest of us have "privilege".

Don't take my word, ask a feminist.
You haven't heard of intersectionality then.
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« Reply #14 on: January 05, 2018, 07:18:43 PM »
Jeremy,

Feminists do not care about racism, any more than feminists care about the disabled.

Feminists care about the XX population, the rest do not matter.

Because the rest of us no not matter, because the rest of us have "privilege".

Don't take my word, ask a feminist.
I'm a feminist and so's my wife and you are talking purest pish.

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« Reply #15 on: January 05, 2018, 07:38:21 PM »
I'm a feminist and so's my wife and you are talking purest pish.

Where is my son's "privilege" when he has to go through PE?

When the boys have to go through the humiliation of mutual showers........and the girls do not?

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« Reply #16 on: January 05, 2018, 07:43:12 PM »
Where is my son's "privilege" when he has to go through PE?

When the boys have to go through the humiliation of mutual showers........and the girls do not?
What in the name of Jehosophat Jones the Jumping Jogger of Jonestown has that to do with your statement that no one who is a feminist cares about racism?

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« Reply #17 on: January 05, 2018, 07:48:22 PM »
Where is my son's "privilege" when he has to go through PE?

When the boys have to go through the humiliation of mutual showers........and the girls do not?

Since when were communal showers humiliation?
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« Reply #18 on: January 05, 2018, 08:08:54 PM »
Where is my son's "privilege" when he has to go through PE?

When the boys have to go through the humiliation of mutual showers........and the girls do not?

Do boys have to shower with blood running down their legs?

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« Reply #19 on: January 05, 2018, 08:10:47 PM »
Since when were communal showers humiliation?

They aren’t, for either gender. Girls can feel very uncomfortable about their menstrual blood showing though.

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« Reply #20 on: January 05, 2018, 08:12:20 PM »
Jeremy,

Feminists do not care about racism, any more than feminists care about the disabled.

Feminists care about the XX population, the rest do not matter.

Because the rest of us no not matter, because the rest of us have "privilege".

Don't take my word, ask a feminist.

I’m a feminist, my kids are feminist.

Never heard such utter shit in my life.

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Re: 'What about men?'
« Reply #21 on: January 05, 2018, 10:10:15 PM »
Do boys have to shower with blood running down their legs?

Do feminists complain when boys are stabbed to death after girls have acted as molls?

Or do feminists blame males?

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« Reply #22 on: January 05, 2018, 10:12:28 PM »
Do feminists complain when boys are stabbed to death after girls have acted as molls?

Or do feminists blame males?

We got here from having periods in showers how?

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« Reply #23 on: January 05, 2018, 10:28:52 PM »
It's an interesting article about sexism and I agree with a lot of it...

... but what about racism?

Racism is not the issue here, there's no need to try to divert the thread.

Where is my son's "privilege" when he has to go through PE?

When the boys have to go through the humiliation of mutual showers........and the girls do not?


Humph, nobody has to go into a communal shower, boy or girl, anyone can opt out, it's a basic human right.  If your son has a bullying teacher who tries to make him shower communally it's up to you to tell the teacher they have no right to force him - or anyone else, that in turn will give your son confidence.  However, kids often shower in their pants and change into dry ones afterwards, that too was is acceptable and should provoke no comments. People have been doing that (in bathing suit) after swimming since I don't know when.

I wonder what kind of school in this day and age, bearing in mind so many have modern & elaborate gymnasia, doesn't have shower cubicles?

Humph, you also said:- "Feminists do not care about racism, any more than feminists care about the disabled."

Absolute nonsense, a sweeping statement. I don't know what sort of people you mix with to give you such a distorted and extreme view.

Do feminists complain when boys are stabbed to death after girls have acted as molls?

Or do feminists blame males?

I don't know how we got to this, once again I wonder what sort of people you know, but women will blame women if women are in the wrong.
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« Reply #24 on: January 08, 2018, 04:47:49 PM »

I don't know how we got to this, once again I wonder what sort of people you know, but women will blame women if women are in the wrong.

OK let's not involve Julie Bindel yet again for the moment, rather let us consider the Golden Globes.

Tonya Harding, barred from ice skating for life for hiring a thug to try to break Nancy Kerrigan's knees, is now rehabilitated because she was not the one who assaulted Nancy, it was a man who did it.