'What about men?'

[floo]

HWB seems to have a great problem with women, I wonder why?

[Gordon]

Yes folks, more sexual discrimination.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-42621029

(But don't you know that its different for girls?)

(Acknowledgement to Joe Jackson)

Read this earlier, since it is local for me.

The outcome seems to be all about the specifics of this particular case - and nothing else.

[Robbie]

HWB seems to have a great problem with women, I wonder why?

Things aren't always what they seem LR. I hope he doesn't have a problem with women. However that very sad case of mercy killing has nothing to do with this thread. There was no violence or malice and if a husband had done the same for his wife in similar circumstances, he would have been treated the same.

[Rhiannon]

Your problems with the female of the species has removed your ability to make any logical point.

To be fair I don’t think he has a problem with women, just the notions that women should be treated as equal to men, should be treated fairly, and that patriarchy is a thing.

[Sriram]

Things aren't always what they seem LR. I hope he doesn't have a problem with women. However that very sad case of mercy killing has nothing to do with this thread. There was no violence or malice and if a husband had done the same for his wife in similar circumstances, he would have been treated the same.

Not about discrimination...but does a person who smothers her/his partner to death (for mercy or whatever  ) get away with it?!   That doesn't seem right!

Last week, out here a professor killed his immobilized mother who was suffering from chronic brain disease. He will be sentenced for murder surely.   

[Rhiannon]

Not about discrimination...but does a person who smothers her/his partner to death (for mercy or whatever  ) get away with it?!   That doesn't seem right!

Last week, out here a professor killed his immobilized mother who was suffering from chronic brain disease. He will be sentenced for murder surely.

I think the verdict is that she wasn’t in full control of her mind at the time.

[Nearly Sane]

Not about discrimination...but does a person who smothers her/his partner to death (for mercy or whatever  ) get away with it?!   That doesn't seem right!

Last week, out here a professor killed his immobilized mother who was suffering from chronic brain disease. He will be sentenced for murder surely.

Does someone who acts out of mercy 'get away with it'? What are they 'getting away with'?

[Robbie]

Yes (Rhiannon), that's what I read. She'd looked after her husband even though there were pending charges of abuse  against him and the whole thing must have weighed heavily on her, with everyone knowing and the pair of them being shunned. He was very sick and she said that he asked her to help him. She telephoned the police and admitted what she'd done as soon as he was dead.

Sririam, it is a very difficult case to judge and - the judge - has to weigh everything up scrupulously.  Judges are not infallible, nobody is, but years of experience in criminal cases and assessing character, plus the tremendous weight of responsibility & reputation of the judiciary, means they are generally very wise.

Not everything is black or white. At the end of the day, the only person certain of the truth is the woman who was charged. However it is surely better for a guilty person to go free than an innocent one to be imprisoned.

From what I read, imo the correct decision was made.

[floo]

Things aren't always what they seem LR. I hope he doesn't have a problem with women. However that very sad case of mercy killing has nothing to do with this thread. There was no violence or malice and if a husband had done the same for his wife in similar circumstances, he would have been treated the same.

HWB's comments give the impression he doesn't rate women.

In similar circumstances I might have smothered my husband, not out of love but out of disgust, if I believed the sexual abuse allegations to be true.

[Rhiannon]

HWB's comments give the impression he doesn't rate women.

In similar circumstances I might have smothered my husband, not out of love but out of disgust, if I believed the sexual abuse allegations to be true.

I think that’s more likely to land a murder charge.

[floo]

I think that’s more likely to land a murder charge.

Probably.

[Nearly Sane]

Mmm



https://www.msn.com/en-in/news/other/michelle-williams-was-reportedly-paid-less-than-241000-to-reshoot-all-the-money-in-the-world-while-mark-wahlberg-made-2415-million/ar-BBIc6bd

[floo]

It is shocking that even now in 2018 women, on the whole, tend to be paid less than their male counterparts.

[Humph Warden Bennett]

It is shocking that even now in 2018 women, on the whole, tend to be paid less than their male counterparts.

Let us get this into perspective. I am paid 17% more than my male and female subordinates, but I am paid 21% less than my female boss. She in turn is paid less than the big boss (who is male, but could be female, it is not as if women never get promoted to senior positions). Quite frankly to try to use Hollywood as an example is like comparing oranges with apples.

FTR I do recall twenty years ago my employers (a technically medium sized company)  paid a model to appear as part of a marketing campaign , I was asked to appear in the same, sitting beside him. I took the view that I was not doing the same job as somebody else if I was not paid the same as him, one of the women agreed to do the same, for no extra pay. I don't think that would happen today, and certainly Mrs Bennett would not agree to such a suggestion.

[floo]

Let us get this into perspective. I am paid 17% more than my male and female subordinates, but I am paid 21% less than my female boss. She in turn is paid less than the big boss (who is male, but could be female, it is not as if women never get promoted to senior positions). Quite frankly to try to use Hollywood as an example is like comparing oranges with apples.

FTR I do recall twenty years ago my employers (a technically medium sized company)  paid a model to appear as part of a marketing campaign , I was asked to appear in the same, sitting beside him. I took the view that I was not doing the same job as somebody else if I was not paid the same as him, one of the women agreed to do the same, for no extra pay. I don't think that would happen today, and certainly Mrs Bennett would not agree to such a suggestion.

Women are often paid less than men for doing exactly the same job, which is WRONG, there is no way that can be justified.

[Humph Warden Bennett]

Women are often paid less than men for doing exactly the same job, which is WRONG, there is no way that can be justified.

Can you give examples? My understanding is that has been illegal since 1975. The main grumble today seems to be more of a case of there not being enough senior female managers, which is a different issue.

[Robbie]

I haven't come across different pay scales for men and women. My salary has always been equal to that of a man on the same level.

Film stars etc. are a different matter. Some command higher fees than others, negotiated by their agents. What they get depends on how well known and popular they are and how much the studio wants them. If they're a 'good catch' and receive lots of offers of work, they can be choosy.