Tim Farron reveals himself as a liar

[Nearly Sane]

And an idiot

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/42638420

[Gordon]

And an idiot

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/42638420

Was just reading it: lying for Jesus so as to not appear like an intolerant homophobe, which he clearly is.

[Nearly Sane]

Was just reading it: lying for Jesus so as to not appear like an intolerant homophobe, which he clearly is.

To be fair, not sure it was Jesus he was lying for.

[Gordon]

To be fair, not sure it was Jesus he was lying for.

True: I'll retract that, he was lying for the benefit of himself and his party (not that he is alone in that regard).

[floo]

Farron is pathetic.

[ProfessorDavey]

And an idiot

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/42638420

He always seemed very weak to me as a leader - very lightweight. And this adds to that view. He has objectionable views but didn't even have the guts to admit to them - that said I don't think anyone really believed his about face during the general election on homosexuality.

[Walt Zingmatilder]

He always seemed very weak to me as a leader - very lightweight. And this adds to that view. He has objectionable views but didn't even have the guts to admit to them - that said I don't think anyone really believed his about face during the general election on homosexuality.

As a matter of historical interest did the gay vote go left, right or evenly distributed?

[Humph Warden Bennett]

True: I'll retract that, he was lying for the benefit of himself and his party (not that he is alone in that regard).

He was leaned on by the party bosses. If the Lib Dems had a problem with his views on homosexual sex, they should not have elected him as leader.

[Gordon]

He was leaned on by the party bosses. If the Lib Dems had a problem with his views on homosexual sex, they should not have elected him as leader.

Perhaps when they elected him as leader they didn't know his true views even if they had asked him and he answered as he did during the election campaign, since we now know that he deliberately lied.

[Walt Zingmatilder]

In a secular society as opposed to a mildly antichristian society the question "do you think homosexuality is a sin" is irrelevant to any secular process whereas the proper question should be "Do you think homosexuality is criminal" since the former is a theological stance.

[floo]

I do hope Jesus was gay and in a physical relation ship with the disciple it is claimed he loved. If that could be proved to be the case, it would be one in the eye for the those Christians who are anti-gay bigots.

[Walt Zingmatilder]

I do hope Jesus was gay and in a physical relation ship with the disciple it is claimed he loved. If that could be proved to be the case, it would be one in the eye for the those Christians who are anti-gay bigots.

I think you've been at the Mills and Boon a little too much.

[Harrowby Hall]

"Do you think homosexuality is criminal?" is a meaningless question to ask. It does not matter what anyone thinks homosexuality is not a criminal activity: that is a matter of law, of fact.

Has Tim Farron ever made a secret of his christian views? If not, then was his attitude to homosexuality a matter raised during his party leadership campaign? Again, if not, then why not?

What is it about the Abrahamic religions that causes them to be so obsessed with matters of sex and sexuality? My guess is that private and personal behaviour can be used to generate guilt and shame .... and hence control.

[Walt Zingmatilder]

"Do you think homosexuality is criminal?" is a meaningless question to ask. It does not matter what anyone thinks homosexuality is not a criminal activity: that is a matter of law, of fact.

Has Tim Farron ever made a secret of his christian views? If not, then was his attitude to homosexuality a matter raised during his party leadership campaign? Again, if not, then why not?

What is it about the Abrahamic religions that causes them to be so obsessed with matters of sex and sexuality? My guess is that private and personal behaviour can be used to generate guilt and shame .... and hence control.

It is not meaningless at all. The view that something ought to be a crime or not is very significant in the hands of a political party leader. Particularly at a time when extreme views have access to power.
Vis the accession of Darwinian principles into health and social care.

[Walt Zingmatilder]

What is it about the Abrahamic religions that causes them to be so obsessed with matters of sex and sexuality? My guess is that private and personal behaviour can be used to generate guilt and shame .... and hence control.

Ah yes only a Puritanism could give rise to wealthy self righteous people dressing up in black and publicly pontificating on how sexual relations should be conducted. That sort of thing never happens today.

[Harrowby Hall]

I take it that English is not your first language, Vlad.

[jakswan]

In a secular society as opposed to a mildly antichristian society the question "do you think homosexuality is a sin" is irrelevant to any secular process whereas the proper question should be "Do you think homosexuality is criminal" since the former is a theological stance.

True if his Christian faith plays zero role in his views.

[Humph Warden Bennett]

I take it that English is not your first language, Vlad.

Of course it is not, he is Transylvanian!

[Humph Warden Bennett]

My thought is that Tim should have told his priest at confession, rather than "come out" as a liar to the BBC. Or perhaps he takes the RC doctrine of the value of suffering? (and NO I am not being sarcastic)

[Walt Zingmatilder]

True if his Christian faith plays zero role in his views.

I think Farron stated that he would uphold any legislative protection for the LGBTQ community.
Any further pressing of him on his views on sin and sexuality therefore is just cosmo smallpiecism.

[floo]

My thought is that Tim should have told his priest at confession, rather than "come out" as a liar to the BBC. Or perhaps he takes the RC doctrine of the value of suffering? (and NO I am not being sarcastic)

Farron is not a Catholic, pastors don't do confessions like priests do.

[jakswan]

My thought is that Tim should have told his priest at confession, rather than "come out" as a liar to the BBC. Or perhaps he takes the RC doctrine of the value of suffering? (and NO I am not being sarcastic)

pedentry

It was Christian Premier Radio

/pendatry

So according to Farran gay sex is a sin, but isn't lying a sin as well? Tim is perhaps gay?

[Humph Warden Bennett]

Farron is not a Catholic, pastors don't do confessions like priests do.

You are correct, thank you for the correction, I had been told on another board that Farron is RC.

[Humph Warden Bennett]

pedentry

It was Christian Premier Radio

/pendatry

So according to Farran gay sex is a sin, but isn't lying a sin as well? Tim is perhaps gay?

I think that is extrapolating a bit :-p

[Walt Zingmatilder]

Of course it is not, he is Transylvanian!

Lol