Author Topic: Glutton for punishment???  (Read 4769 times)

Aruntraveller

  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 11087
Re: Glutton for punishment???
« Reply #50 on: January 24, 2018, 03:48:31 PM »
Over 16s maybe, but not under that age, imo.

I went to my first concert on my own at the tender age of 14. Admittedly it was a piano recital in the Albert Hall in Nottingham. But still, dodgy people these concert pianists, and the audience depraved I tell you, depraved with their purple rinses and tightly curled perms - and that was just the men.
Before we work on Artificial Intelligence shouldn't we address the problem of natural stupidity.

Rhiannon

  • Guest
Re: Glutton for punishment???
« Reply #51 on: January 24, 2018, 03:57:32 PM »
I took my eldest to her first gig. We saw Turin Brakes. Last year both girls went with friends to see someone from YouTube.

You do get dodgy influences at these concert things. My daughters have resisted all my attempts to persuade them to get their noses pierced though.

Robbie

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 7512
Re: Glutton for punishment???
« Reply #52 on: January 24, 2018, 04:44:33 PM »

I think it is totally inappropriate for children to go to pop concerts of any sort, what on earth happened to childhood?

You can't be serious. Did you never go to concerts or theatre when you were a kid? My parents took me & my sister quite often, when I was older I went with friends, parents would sometimes take and pick up. I did the same with my kids. Gigs are exciting for young people. I still find them exciting now but not in same way as when I was young.

Meeting different types of people is part of growing up too. There's safety in numbers so going out with a few friends can't be harmful, they look out for eachother.

As for 'Little Mix' looking like prostitutes, what a vile thing to say about a group of nice, well behaved young women, you only have to look at their faces to see that!!! Do you know what a prostitute looks like anyway, they come in all sorts of packages.

Going back to op,  the woman had signing for the main act & one would have thought that was enough. I suppose she has a point though. Surprised it made the news.  What is nice is her taking her children to the gig and her daughter saying she likes her mum to go with her.
True Wit is Nature to Advantage drest,
          What oft was Thought, but ne’er so well Exprest

Harrowby Hall

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 5038
Re: Glutton for punishment???
« Reply #53 on: January 24, 2018, 04:55:37 PM »
But then Floo took me away,
Taught me how to be miserable
Puritanical, cynical

I don't think that you will get anywhere, Robbie. Floo (when she was Floo) told us on a number of occasions that she didn't respond to music and didn't much like music.

It is quite possible that she is a musical anhedonic. Due to the way some people's brains are wired reward centres in the brain may not respond to musical stimuli in the way that other people's brains do. It does not mean that there is anything wrong with them, it is just an individual difference between a few people and most of the rest of us.

Google "Barcelona Music Reward Questionnaire"
Does Magna Carta mean nothing to you? Did she die in vain?

Nearly Sane

  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 64361
Re: Glutton for punishment???
« Reply #54 on: January 24, 2018, 04:58:49 PM »
I don't think that you will get anywhere, Robbie. Floo (when she was Floo) told us on a number of occasions that she didn't respond to music and didn't much like music.

It is quite possible that she is a musical anhedonic. Due to the way some people's brains are wired reward centres in the brain may not respond to musical stimuli in the way that other people's brains do. It does not mean that there is anything wrong with them, it is just an individual difference between a few people and most of the rest of us.

Google "Barcelona Music Reward Questionnaire"


While I agree with your diagnosis, not sure how this covers the idea that Little Mix look like prostitutes and people who go to such concerts are to be avoided. That reads like prejudice not anhedonia.

floo

  • Guest
Re: Glutton for punishment???
« Reply #55 on: January 24, 2018, 05:07:51 PM »
Did you never go to concerts or theatre when you were a kid?

To answer Robbie's question, the answer is no. My parents weren't into anything like that. I only went to the cinema once as a child, and that was with the school to see a wildlife film. My husband and I took our children to the cinema and theatre from time to time when they were young. My husband took them to concerts as he enjoys music, of the classical kind, and so do they. I don't ever remember them asking to go to a gig, it just wasn't their thing.

Robbie

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 7512
Re: Glutton for punishment???
« Reply #56 on: January 24, 2018, 05:14:37 PM »
A concert is a gig.
True Wit is Nature to Advantage drest,
          What oft was Thought, but ne’er so well Exprest

wigginhall

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 17730
Re: Glutton for punishment???
« Reply #57 on: January 24, 2018, 05:16:46 PM »
Interesting stuff about music.   I used to love it, and now don't.   But I ascribe this to just getting older, and not wanting so much input.   But I actually find it irritating now, so I am a soul-brother of Littleroses.   
They were the footprints of a gigantic hound!

Robbie

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 7512
Re: Glutton for punishment???
« Reply #58 on: January 24, 2018, 05:18:18 PM »
I don't think that you will get anywhere, Robbie. Floo (when she was Floo) told us on a number of occasions that she didn't respond to music and didn't much like music.

It is quite possible that she is a musical anhedonic. Due to the way some people's brains are wired reward centres in the brain may not respond to musical stimuli in the way that other people's brains do. It does not mean that there is anything wrong with them, it is just an individual difference between a few people and most of the rest of us.

Google "Barcelona Music Reward Questionnaire"

I know LR doesn't like music but I am surprised she disapproves so strongly of young people going to concerts when it is part of life.
--------

Agree with what NS said below. The 'prostitute' comment was quite shocking.
True Wit is Nature to Advantage drest,
          What oft was Thought, but ne’er so well Exprest

floo

  • Guest
Re: Glutton for punishment???
« Reply #59 on: January 24, 2018, 05:19:06 PM »
A concert is a gig.

I doubt a classical concert is called a 'gig'. ::)

I have never enjoyed music of any kind, I have no idea why. My father had a good singing voice, my sisters do too, as do my daughters. My singing voice is something you would wear earplugs to blot out the ghastly noise. ;D
« Last Edit: January 24, 2018, 05:25:47 PM by Littleroses »

Nearly Sane

  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 64361
Re: Glutton for punishment???
« Reply #60 on: January 24, 2018, 05:20:50 PM »
Interesting stuff about music.   I used to love it, and now don't.   But I ascribe this to just getting older, and not wanting so much input.   But I actually find it irritating now, so I am a soul-brother of Littleroses.
I still love music but as I've mentioned before I think I hear it differently than I did when I was 13-17 when it moved me differently and deeper. I think our hearing and how it is processed changes significantly over time in much subtler ways then we generally think.

Robbie

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 7512
Re: Glutton for punishment???
« Reply #61 on: January 24, 2018, 05:41:24 PM »
I doubt a classical concert is called a 'gig'. ::)

Yes it is. It's an informal term. A classical musician would say for example, "I landed a gig at Wigmore Hall".
People who give lectures or demonstrations also refer to them as gigs.

We know your dislike of music but what was surprising was you objecting to young people going to concerts and, more shocking, likening Little Mix's appearance to that of prostitutes.
True Wit is Nature to Advantage drest,
          What oft was Thought, but ne’er so well Exprest

Humph Warden Bennett

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 5013
Re: Glutton for punishment???
« Reply #62 on: January 26, 2018, 03:35:23 PM »
Methinks you need to get out more.

Don't ever view a Madonna concert for goodness sake, it may push you over the edge (and even she is tame compared to a music video I viewed last night by a combo called Fischerspooner - if you are easily offended I suggest not looking for this!)

I do recall Anchorman advising against listening to Sidney Devine some years ago, I was wally enough to ignore him & regretted the same for some time, so I fought shy of looking this combo up on YT instead I chickened out & looked them up on Wiki. Wiki tells us of one of their albums "The album's cover was listed on Pitchfork's worst album covers of 2009", so I get the impression that the combo are essentially exponents of bad taste?

Worth remembering that the Canadian act Rough Trade were well known in the seventies for their stage act, which believe it or not included lesbian singer Carol Pope going into the audience & shaking her crotch in the faces of male fans (for somebody who was supposed to be a lesbian icon there seemed to be very few women in the audience).

Aruntraveller

  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 11087
Re: Glutton for punishment???
« Reply #63 on: January 27, 2018, 09:39:51 PM »
Quote
so I get the impression that the combo are essentially exponents of bad taste?

No I wouldn't put it quite like that - their music is not (to my ears at least) that bad - I enjoy some of their tracks.

They are an art-house performance type combo however, with all the boundary pushing activity that can induce.
Before we work on Artificial Intelligence shouldn't we address the problem of natural stupidity.

jeremyp

  • Admin Support
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 32509
  • Blurb
    • Sincere Flattery: A blog about computing
Re: Glutton for punishment???
« Reply #64 on: January 27, 2018, 10:13:42 PM »
A concert is a gig.
My parents used to take me to gigs by the London Symphony Orchestra at the Festival Hall.
This post and all of JeremyP's posts words certified 100% divinely inspired* -- signed God.
*Platinum infallibility package, terms and conditions may apply

jeremyp

  • Admin Support
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 32509
  • Blurb
    • Sincere Flattery: A blog about computing
Re: Glutton for punishment???
« Reply #65 on: January 27, 2018, 10:17:59 PM »
Talking about young people going to gigs, don't forget that the original story is about three children going to a concert and being accompanied by hearing impaired adults. I have absolutely no idea why Floo would object to that arrangement.
This post and all of JeremyP's posts words certified 100% divinely inspired* -- signed God.
*Platinum infallibility package, terms and conditions may apply

Robbie

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 7512
Re: Glutton for punishment???
« Reply #66 on: January 28, 2018, 08:52:57 AM »
I don't know either except that the sight of Little Mix horrified her, something else I don't understand.  A nicer, more 'ordinary' group of girls I've yet to meet.

However - my husband and one of his colleagues are doing a gig later in the week. He has described it as such & prepared for it. They've done the same gig before and it went down well.
True Wit is Nature to Advantage drest,
          What oft was Thought, but ne’er so well Exprest