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Cheddar Man
« on: February 07, 2018, 02:43:44 PM »

Congratulations folks!   Scientists now know how early Britons looked like.....10000 years ago.

http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-42939192

Cheers.

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« Reply #1 on: February 07, 2018, 02:55:35 PM »
Yes, I saw that earlier.
It's how I imagined people looked then except I thought they'd be hairier.
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« Reply #2 on: February 07, 2018, 02:57:10 PM »
Congratulations folks!   Scientists now know how early Britons looked like.....10000 years ago.

http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-42939192

Cheers.

Sriram

I hope that revelation puts the nasty white supremacists in their place.

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« Reply #3 on: February 07, 2018, 03:06:20 PM »
It's been known a for a long time that people indigenous to this part of the world had swarthy complexions.

I like the blue eyes contrast with brown skin, most people with dark-ish skin and hair are brown eyed.









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« Reply #4 on: February 07, 2018, 03:07:31 PM »
Yes, I saw that earlier.
It's how I imagined people looked then except I thought they'd be hairier.
Esentailly at 10,000 years there is little difference. It's a nothing in evolutionary terms.

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« Reply #5 on: February 07, 2018, 03:13:55 PM »
I hope that revelation puts the nasty white supremacists in their place.

Unfortunately, it won't. Since all humans descend from Africans, either they are reconciled to the fact that the first humans weren't (in their eyes) the best humans,, or they ignore science when it suits them just like everybody else.
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« Reply #6 on: February 07, 2018, 07:50:01 PM »
It's been known a for a long time that people indigenous to this part of the world had swarthy complexions.

I like the blue eyes contrast with brown skin, most people with dark-ish skin and hair are brown eyed.

The previous model of Cheddar Man in1998 showed him as white skinned and scientists have described this recent discovery as a surprise, so not sure about your first comment. Also, what do you mean by indigenous?

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« Reply #7 on: February 07, 2018, 07:58:25 PM »
Indigenous means :-
"originating or occurring naturally in a particular place; native"

I've seen pictures of how people believed earlier man looked, swarthy skinned and hairy. Can't remember the publication.
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« Reply #8 on: February 07, 2018, 08:09:08 PM »
Indigenous means :-
"originating or occurring naturally in a particular place; native"

I've seen pictures of how people believed earlier man looked, swarthy skinned and hairy. Can't remember the publication.

He wasn't indigenous. He was a migrant.

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« Reply #9 on: February 07, 2018, 08:29:20 PM »
I suppose he or she was, settling in Britain after one of the ice ages.
Fascinating stuff.
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« Reply #10 on: February 07, 2018, 08:52:02 PM »
He wasn't indigenous. He was a migrant.
we're all migrants . Earth was set up as a penal colony by beings from a distant planet some six and a half thousand years ago and abandoned never to be visited again
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« Reply #11 on: February 07, 2018, 08:53:32 PM »
All the details get a bit cheesy after that

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« Reply #12 on: February 07, 2018, 08:59:54 PM »
to a grater degree
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« Reply #13 on: February 07, 2018, 09:24:41 PM »
to a grater degree
Robbie you're on fire tonight (too long under the grill) 😂

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« Reply #14 on: February 07, 2018, 09:36:24 PM »
Get awhey! Your rare bit of humour started it.
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« Reply #15 on: February 08, 2018, 03:08:55 AM »
Indigenous means :-
"originating or occurring naturally in a particular place; native"

I've seen pictures of how people believed earlier man looked, swarthy skinned and hairy. Can't remember the publication.

Yes, I know what the dictionary definition is, I was wondering what you meant in this situation since humans migrated here from europe and earlier had migrated from the Middle East into Europe.

Earlier man was dark skinned, yes, but it was thought that by the time people had reached here they were light skinned. This shows different and is new.

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« Reply #16 on: February 08, 2018, 06:49:13 AM »
I don't remember where I read or saw pictures, many years ago, Maeght.  Just had the impression that people who came to 'Britain' after the last ice age were darkish (& hairy) but I could have remembered it wrongly. Certainly fair people came here but I thought that was later.

No matter. You probably know more than I.
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« Reply #17 on: February 08, 2018, 10:14:27 AM »
The colour bit's simple to understand, nowadays it's not the problem it used to be for people with dark skin, black even, but in times past the darker skinned people wouldn't have been manufacturing enough vitamin D, and would have been suffering from rickets and all of the associated disadvantages, due to the lack of photosynthesised vitamin D where the weaker sunlight found it more difficult to penetrate the skin of darker people, evolution then took over and favoured lighter skinned people that wanted to live in the more northerly climes and that's why we're the now so called white people, it was just down to survival.(I'll end up with a permanent train spotters voice if I do any more of these explanations, like the Did you know voice of Peter Cook's).

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« Reply #18 on: February 08, 2018, 10:33:25 AM »

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« Reply #19 on: February 08, 2018, 10:49:11 AM »
I wonder how many of the ghastly white supremacist mob get their skin tanned, by the sun or artificial means?

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« Reply #20 on: February 08, 2018, 10:52:14 AM »
I wonder how many of the ghastly white supremacist mob get their skin tanned, by the sun or artificial means?

What has a tan got to do with it?

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« Reply #21 on: February 08, 2018, 10:52:43 AM »
What has a tan got to do with it?

They can't think a dark skin is too bad then.

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« Reply #22 on: February 08, 2018, 10:53:58 AM »
They can't think a dark skin is too bad then.

They are of course not the samer thing.

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« Reply #23 on: February 08, 2018, 11:10:02 AM »
The black skin isn't really news- we've known that for decades ('Britain First' probably can't read anyway). The recon thing though - that's a bit iffy. I'm not criticising the effrt, nor disputing the result; just noting that if you take three different teams using the same skull and modern tech, you can get three quite differnt faicial reconstructions - which only help to raise the blood pressure in the ivory towers. In my own interest, I'm on several groups where the argument over a recon of the facer of as controversial mummy identified in some quarters as Nefertiti, is causing ructions....wrong skin colour, that sort of thing.
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« Reply #24 on: February 08, 2018, 11:35:27 AM »
They are of course not the samer thing.

Why do they look down on people who don't have white skins?