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ippy

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Religious privileges
« on: March 12, 2018, 05:29:45 PM »
Have a try of this link and it'd be interesting to hear any comments:

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/stephen-evans/religious-privilege_b_10141692.html

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Re: Religious privileges
« Reply #1 on: March 12, 2018, 06:14:24 PM »
Have a try of this link and it'd be interesting to hear any comments:

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/stephen-evans/religious-privilege_b_10141692.html

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I read it. It is all moving too slowly towards secularism. I'd really like to see something to be more optimistic about before I die.
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Re: Religious privileges
« Reply #2 on: March 13, 2018, 09:55:28 AM »
Have a try of this link and it'd be interesting to hear any comments:

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/stephen-evans/religious-privilege_b_10141692.html

Regards to all, ippy
Have a try of this link and it'd be interesting to hear any comments:

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/stephen-evans/religious-privilege_b_10141692.html

Regards to all, ippy
1: There seems to be the usual propensity to interpret a minority of religious people as a pretext to eliminating all religion from the public forum.
2: Agree with prayers although I think there should be a time of contemplation prior to Government meetings.
3: There is the usual suggestion that the NHS should treat according to the materialist scientism conception of what a person is. This is imposing a view on the sick and the dying.

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Re: Religious privileges
« Reply #3 on: March 13, 2018, 03:41:24 PM »
1: There seems to be the usual propensity to interpret a minority of religious people as a pretext to eliminating all religion from the public forum.
2: Agree with prayers although I think there should be a time of contemplation prior to Government meetings.
3: There is the usual suggestion that the NHS should treat according to the materialist scientism conception of what a person is. This is imposing a view on the sick and the dying.

1: There seems to be the usual propensity to interpret a minority of religious people as a pretext to eliminating all religion from the public forum.

Not the secular view, as repeated to you many times, the religious viewpoint isn't due any extra representation in any subject than any other point of view, ie., no more or any less representation by those that hold a religious points of view and those that don't.

2: Agree with prayers although I think there should be a time of contemplation prior to Government meetings.

Nothing wrong with praying/contemplating before any meetings Government or any other kind of meeting, as long as the prayers are held by those that want them in their own time, because if not, those that have no need of this kind of thing have to stand around like spare pr$*&s, and wait while the others that do go through their time wasting, superstition based utterances/contemplations.

3: There is the usual suggestion that the NHS should treat according to the materialist scientism conception of what a person is. This is imposing a view on the sick and the dying.

There is no imposing of this scientism on people by the NHS, we tax payers spend a lot of money on chaplains, especially to deal with any religious nonsense required.

Incidentally it's about time the state removed the funding of these chaplains, NOT REMOVE THE CHAPLAINS, christian chaplain christian funding, islamic chaplain islamic funding etc etc to whatever religion is involved.   

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Re: Religious privileges
« Reply #4 on: March 15, 2018, 11:16:43 AM »


2: Agree with prayers although I think there should be a time of contemplation prior to Government meetings.

Nothing wrong with praying/contemplating before any meetings Government or any other kind of meeting, as long as the prayers are held by those that want them in their own time, because if not, those that have no need of this kind of thing have to stand around like spare pr$*&s, and wait while the others that do go through their time wasting, superstition based utterances/contemplations.


There should be an enforced time of silent contemplation in which councillors/officials are free to think, Pray, yearn for Richard dawkins or even rearrange their trousers-quietly.

Too much perpetual noise and body language rather than thought leading to incontinent blurting thoughtless garbage out of one's arse...or as it's called these days, LBC.
« Last Edit: March 15, 2018, 11:21:31 AM by Private Frazer »

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Re: Religious privileges
« Reply #5 on: March 15, 2018, 11:22:54 AM »
I object to public money being used via the NHS to fund posts that are subject to discrimination. The church has in the past refused on at least one occasion  to license a priest who had married his same sex partner, leading to him losing his job within the NHS.

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Re: Religious privileges
« Reply #6 on: March 15, 2018, 11:41:42 AM »
I object to public money being used via the NHS to fund posts that are subject to discrimination. The church has in the past refused on at least one occasion  to license a priest who had married his same sex partner, leading to him losing his job within the NHS.

Can you give a link to support your statement?

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Re: Religious privileges
« Reply #7 on: March 15, 2018, 12:01:40 PM »
« Last Edit: March 15, 2018, 12:07:55 PM by Rhiannon »

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Re: Religious privileges
« Reply #9 on: March 15, 2018, 05:27:19 PM »
And the thread where it was previously raised



http://www.religionethics.co.uk/index.php?topic=11655.0

Yes of course that thread was about the chaplaincy and this thread differs from that previous thread to include all of the many privileges the religious have, including the chaplaincy of prisons the forces and hospitals, including NHS hospitals.

How about chancellery laws, the BBC ban on the non-religious voice on Thought for the Day, the ban on having a non-religious representative at the London remembrance day ceremony in November, the Edinburgh remembrance day ceremony includes the non-religious, financing religion based schooling by the state, busing the children of religious believers to their religious schools free of charge but there is no visa versa version for the children of non-religious parents,(This unfair practice is on the decline thank goodness),  tax free status for places of worship and these privileges are only the ones I can think of right now off of the top of my head, they all help the already prosperous C of E finance their shabby beliefs and help them recruit their new sheep at our expense.

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