What do the R&E non- and anti-religious actually believe in?

[Walt Zingmatilder]

That is because Steve asked a rather open question, so we're having to speculate what he meant. I think Wiggs and Rhiannon gave rather interesting responses anyway.

I seem to recall noting that Rhiannon found God did not meet her specifications. I know nothing about Wigginhall's former Christianity.

[torridon]

I seem to recall noting that Rhiannon found God did not meet her specifications. I know nothing about Wigginhall's former Christianity.

That's rather cheap.  I think you could do better than that.

[Walt Zingmatilder]

That's rather cheap.  I think you could do better than that.

How do you mean cheap?

[Nearly Sane]

I seem to recall noting that Rhiannon found God did not meet her specifications. I know nothing about Wigginhall's former Christianity.

Lying about Rhiannon. Why do you lie continually?

[floo]

I used to be a Christian, I was just wondering if I feel a vacuum, not really.   I thought that religion fills an emotional space, rather than an intellectual one, but I'm not sure what the emotional space would be.   I suppose yearning, maybe, also something to do with love.

I felt relief when I lost my faith, which had been imposed on me as a child, with threats of hell if I didn't, 'get right with god'.

[Walt Zingmatilder]

Lying about Rhiannon. Why do you lie continually?

That's my opinion. She is quite able to refute if she sees fit to.

[Nearly Sane]

That's my opinion. She is quite able to refute if she sees fit to.

It's specifically not what she has said so is misrepresentation and lying. Something you have done constantly on this thread on a day to commemorate the supposed crucifixion of your supposed saviour. You might as well have shoved that alleged spear into his side with your lying.

[Walt Zingmatilder]

It's specifically not what she has said so is misrepresentation and lying. Something you have done constantly on this thread on a day to commemorate the supposed crucifixion of your supposed saviour. You might as well have shoved that alleged spear into his side with your lying.

Linguistic totalitarianism has to be fought 24/7.

[Nearly Sane]

Linguistic totalitarianism has to be fought 24/7.

By lying and betraying your values, and if you really believe in the values of your supposed saviour, hitting the hammer to nail him to that cross?

[SteveH]

not much of an apology.

I'm not jumping through hoops for you!

[Nearly Sane]

I'm not jumping through hoops for you!

Who is asking you to jump through hoops? You made a lazy generalization about non religious people and you seem unwilling to apologise for that.

[Walt Zingmatilder]

It's specifically not what she has said so is misrepresentation and lying. Something you have done constantly on this thread on a day to commemorate the supposed crucifixion of your supposed saviour. You might as well have shoved that alleged spear into his side with your lying.

I seem to recall Rhiannon mentioning that she expected certain help from God and did not find it forthcoming.

[Nearly Sane]

I seem to recall Rhiannon mentioning that she expected certain help from God and did not find it forthcoming.

No, she didn't find an answer to a call. The absence of a god was what she found. It wasn't a rejection. Nothing about expectation, nothing bout help. So if you want to apologise to Rhiannon for your misrepresentation, go ahead. It will be a start. Yohcan then just on this thread follow up withapoligising to torridin, and then me.

[Walt Zingmatilder]

No, she didn't find an answer to a call. The absence of a god was what she found. It wasn't a rejection. Nothing about expectation, nothing bout help. So if you want to apologise to Rhiannon for your misrepresentation, go ahead. It will be a start. Yohcan then just on this thread follow up withapoligising to torridin, and then me.

I'd rather cancel my membership of this forum. Can that be arranged?

[Nearly Sane]

I'd rather cancel my membership of this forum. Can that be arranged?

You don't have to log on.

[Robbie]

That word, "Lying', being used inappropriately again.  NS you need to lie down.  You don't have to log on either.

As for apologies, I've yet to see an atheist on here, not all but one of the coterie - apologise to someone of faith for all the sneering, sarcastic, vile remarks they make to them, too many to pinpoint.

[Nearly Sane]

That word, "Lying', being used inappropriately again.  NS you need to lie down.  You don't have to log on either.

As for apologies, I've yet to see an atheist on here, not all but one of the coterie - apologise to someone of faith for all the sneering, sarcastic, vile remarks they make to them, too many to pinpoint.

no, Vlad has misrepresented what people have said on this thread. Completely appropriate.

What coterie? And what vile remarks? Have you reported them?

[floo]

That word, "Lying', being used inappropriately again.  NS you need to lie down.  You don't have to log on either.

As for apologies, I've yet to see an atheist on here, not all but one of the coterie - apologise to someone of faith for all the sneering, sarcastic, vile remarks they make to them, too many to pinpoint.

Many of the highly unpleasant remarks are made by theists, more so than non believers, imo.

[Nearly Sane]

Many of the highly unpleasant remarks are made by theists, more so than non believers, imo.

Any evidence for the assertion?

[floo]

Any evidence for the assertion?

Vlad has been giving it large in a most unpleasant way today. SteveH is often rude to non believers. I think I am right in saying that most of the posters who have been permanently banned from the forum were theists because of their reprehensible behaviour.

[Nearly Sane]

Vlad has been giving it large in a most unpleasant way today. SteveH is often rude to non believers. I think I am right in saying that most of the posters who have been permanently banned from the forum were theists because of their reprehensible behaviour.

More assertion.

[floo]

More assertion.

An assertion with evidence to support it surely? 

[Nearly Sane]

An assertion with evidence to support it surely?

No. You have stated that theists make more unpleasant remarks than non theists. Simply pointing out that a couple of theists make unpleasant remarks in your opinion does nothing to back up that. The point about people being banned is just a further assertion.

[SteveH]

Many of the highly unpleasant remarks are made by theists, more so than non believers, imo.

Examples?

[Maeght]

They spend a great deal of time and energy being sarky at believers' expense, and spouting dribs and drabs of philosophy almost as though they know what they're talking about, so we all know what they don't believe in, but what are their positive beliefs, and why do we never hear of them?

Don't have any beliefs as such.