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Grace of God

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if someone makes themselves unemployable??
« on: April 08, 2018, 09:32:13 AM »
with facial tattoos, facial piercings, should they reduce or stop their benefits..
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Re: if someone makes themselves unemployable??
« Reply #1 on: April 08, 2018, 09:37:12 AM »
Don't be silly.
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Re: if someone makes themselves unemployable??
« Reply #2 on: April 08, 2018, 09:56:28 AM »
Nonsense.
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Re: if someone makes themselves unemployable??
« Reply #3 on: April 08, 2018, 10:33:16 AM »
Everyone who is below pensionable age and able bodied should do some form of work for the benefits they receive, imo.

Our Down's Syndrome son (33), who is quite severely mentally disabled, works three full days a week, one of them in Subway.
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Re: if someone makes themselves unemployable??
« Reply #4 on: April 08, 2018, 10:51:49 AM »
Quote from: Littleroses on April 08, 2018, 10:33:16 AM
Everyone who is below pensionable age and able bodied should do some form of work for the benefits they receive, imo.

Our Down's Syndrome son (33), who is quite severely mentally disabled, works three full days a week, one of them in Subway.

Which benefits are you talking about in particular? And what sort of jobs are you talking about in particular?

Are you including those already in full time employment who currently receive state benefits?
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Re: if someone makes themselves unemployable??
« Reply #5 on: April 08, 2018, 11:05:41 AM »
Quote from: Grace of God on April 08, 2018, 09:32:13 AM
with facial tattoos, facial piercings, should they reduce or stop their benefits..
Why would somebody be unemployable just because they have got some facial tattoos and piercings?

If somebody is unemployable (for any reason), should we cut off their only means of financial support and watch them die in the street?
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Re: if someone makes themselves unemployable??
« Reply #6 on: April 08, 2018, 11:22:31 AM »
Quote from: jeremyp on April 08, 2018, 11:05:41 AM
Why would somebody be unemployable just because they have got some facial tattoos and piercings?

If somebody is unemployable (for any reason), should we cut off their only means of financial support and watch them die in the street?

They would probably be unemployable for some white collar jobs.
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Re: if someone makes themselves unemployable??
« Reply #7 on: April 08, 2018, 01:00:13 PM »
Quote from: jeremyp on April 08, 2018, 11:05:41 AM
Why would somebody be unemployable just because they have got some facial tattoos and piercings?

If somebody is unemployable (for any reason), should we cut off their only means of financial support and watch them die in the street?

Shoot them. It’s the Christian way to teach self responsibility.
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Re: if someone makes themselves unemployable??
« Reply #8 on: April 08, 2018, 01:04:25 PM »
Quote from: Rhiannon on April 08, 2018, 01:00:13 PM
Shoot them. It’s the Christian way to teach self responsibility.
They'll certainly stop malingering after that.

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Re: if someone makes themselves unemployable??
« Reply #9 on: April 08, 2018, 01:08:19 PM »
Quote from: Littleroses on April 08, 2018, 11:22:31 AM
They would probably be unemployable for some white collar jobs.

Why?
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Re: if someone makes themselves unemployable??
« Reply #10 on: April 08, 2018, 01:11:13 PM »
Quote from: Maeght on April 08, 2018, 01:08:19 PM
Why?

Because people love judging books by their covers.
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« Reply #11 on: April 08, 2018, 01:41:23 PM »
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Re: if someone makes themselves unemployable??
« Reply #12 on: April 08, 2018, 01:43:32 PM »
Quote from: Littleroses on April 08, 2018, 01:41:23 PM
Because they look awful.

That's a matter of subjective opinion.

Why does somebody who has a nose piercing look more awful than a woman who has ear piercings? I would suggest it is merely a matter of culture.
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Re: if someone makes themselves unemployable??
« Reply #13 on: April 08, 2018, 01:46:15 PM »
Quote from: jeremyp on April 08, 2018, 01:11:13 PM
Because people love judging books by their covers.
In the case of tattoos, that's not unreasonable, since the person chose to have them done.
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Re: if someone makes themselves unemployable??
« Reply #14 on: April 08, 2018, 01:47:25 PM »
Quote from: Steve H on April 08, 2018, 01:46:15 PM
In the case of tattoos, that's not unreasonable, since the person chose to have them done.
What does that tell you about the person other than they like tattoos?
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« Reply #15 on: April 08, 2018, 01:48:15 PM »
Quote from: jeremyp on April 08, 2018, 01:47:25 PM
What does that tell you about the person other than they like tattoos?

That they are stupid to have them all over their face!
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Re: if someone makes themselves unemployable??
« Reply #16 on: April 08, 2018, 01:50:06 PM »
Quote from: Littleroses on April 08, 2018, 01:48:15 PM
That they are stupid to have them all over their face!
It's only stupid because other people are wont to judge them as of unsound character.
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« Reply #17 on: April 08, 2018, 01:51:48 PM »
Quote from: jeremyp on April 08, 2018, 01:50:06 PM
It's only stupid because other people are wont to judge them as of unsound character.

Hmmmmmmmm!
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Re: if someone makes themselves unemployable??
« Reply #18 on: April 08, 2018, 02:03:46 PM »
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« Reply #19 on: April 08, 2018, 02:26:17 PM »
Quote from: Steve H on April 08, 2018, 02:03:46 PM
Would you buy a used car from this man?

NO!!!! :o But then I would never buy a used car from anywhere but a reliable garage.
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Re: if someone makes themselves unemployable??
« Reply #20 on: April 08, 2018, 03:58:53 PM »
Quote from: Steve H on April 08, 2018, 02:03:46 PM
Would you buy a used car from this man?

If he worked for an authorised dealer, yes.

I like both tattoos and piercings. I went out with a guy last year who had a gallopping horse tattooed on the side of his head.
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Re: if someone makes themselves unemployable??
« Reply #21 on: April 08, 2018, 04:05:57 PM »
Quote from: Littleroses on April 08, 2018, 01:41:23 PM
Because they look awful.

That's about an attitude, and surely, like many other things these days, we should be working to change attitudes. People should be judged by their abilities and shouldn't be excluded from employment if they are capable of doing the job.
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« Reply #22 on: April 08, 2018, 04:44:11 PM »
Quote from: Maeght on April 08, 2018, 04:05:57 PM
That's about an attitude, and surely, like many other things these days, we should be working to change attitudes. People should be judged by their abilities and shouldn't be excluded from employment if they are capable of doing the job.

We shouldn't be judging people who are different through no fault of their own, but when they deliberately make themselves look awful with tatoos all over their faces, it is hard not to feel revulsion.
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Re: if someone makes themselves unemployable??
« Reply #23 on: April 08, 2018, 04:49:06 PM »
Quote from: Littleroses on April 08, 2018, 04:44:11 PM
We shouldn't be judging people who are different through no fault of their own, but when they deliberately make themselves look awful with tatoos all over their faces, it is hard not to feel revulsion.

They 'looks awful' in your opinion. Should I be able to refuse jobs to someone who wears a turban because they have chosen to 'look awful' to me?
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Re: if someone makes themselves unemployable??
« Reply #24 on: April 08, 2018, 04:50:11 PM »
Quote from: Littleroses on April 08, 2018, 02:26:17 PM
NO!!!! :o But then I would never buy a used car from anywhere but a reliable garage.
And what if they worked for a reliable garage?
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