Am I the only one to notice that...........

[Walt Zingmatilder]

The majority of recent threads on atheism/antitheism have been locked off.
This points to atheists being secretive IMHO.

[Maeght]

The majority of recent threads on atheism/antitheism have been locked off.
This points to atheists being secretive IMHO.

I think you're imagining that. What would atheist be being secretive about?

[Gordon]

The majority of recent threads on atheism/antitheism have been locked off.
This points to atheists being secretive IMHO.

Moderator:

Let me clarify this for you Vlad, so as to stop you worrying.

1. There was one thread locked: 'What do the R&E non- and anti-religious actually believe in?' that I have now unlocked. It was unintentionally locked by me while using a mobile to access the Forum - easy to do since I have more buttons to avoid than you can see, so using a hand-held can be finicky. So thank you for prompting me to check these threads: I shall give myself a stern talking to and try be more careful in future
 
2. 'Prominent antitheist suspended' is locked, and I suggest you read the final post there (which contains a message to you).

Hopefully your suspicions will have been allayed now.

P.S Where you see a locked thread and it says 'Moved' - it just means that the thread has been moved, and if the OP of this thread contains a link then the thread is still accessible in another Board. 

[Walt Zingmatilder]

 
2. 'Prominent antitheist suspended' is locked, and I suggest you read the final post there (which contains a message to you).

Given this thread will either turn out to be prominent antitheist unjustly shunned by antitheist community or prominent antitheist justly shunned by peers IMV shutting this thread down comes out as an error.

[Rhiannon]

Please get a life, Vlad.

[Walt Zingmatilder]

Please get a life, Vlad.

I find it shocking that antitheists wish to downplay the serious issues wrapped up in the Krauss situation part of which I understand is past shooting of the messengers.

[Rhiannon]

I find it shocking that antitheists wish to downplay the serious issues wrapped up in the Krauss situation part of which I understand is past shooting of the messengers.

And you’ve lost sight of the fact that this is a real story with real victims in order to attempt to point score. Shut the fuck up about it. It’s shabby. You do yourself and your faith no credit.

[Walt Zingmatilder]

And you’ve lost sight of the fact that this is a real story with real victims in order to attempt to point score. Shut the fuck up about it. It’s shabby. You do yourself and your faith no credit.

And the post hardly shows pantheistic posturing in a good light

[bluehillside Retd.]

Vladdo,

Re: Am I the only one to notice that...........

Yes because it's not true. The thread that was locked was your contemptible attempt to smear his atheism/antitheism by associating it with the unrelated accusation made against him, and you seem to be attempting the same thing here now that that avenue has been closed to you. Shame on you.

[Walt Zingmatilder]

Vladdo,

Yes because it's not true. The thread that was locked was your contemptible attempt to smear his atheism/antitheism by associating it with the unrelated accusation made against him, and you seem to be attempting the same thing here now that that avenue has been closed to you. Shame on you.

The only people that have passed active judgement on Krauss are those antitheists who have publicly dissociated themselves with him. The issue then is are these people correct in doing this and their reasons for doing so or has Krauss been misrepresented and wronged by the very community n which he had leadership. Anyway you cut it it is a matter of significance to religionethics.

And then there is the matter of the response of antitheism as represented on this forum which has risked appearing as though it in majority wants these issues buried or is silent...you yourself talk of closing avenues. Therefore shame on that community and those in it.

[bluehillside Retd.]

Vlad the mendacious,

The only people that have passed active judgement on Krauss are those antitheists who have publicly dissociated themselves with him.

You have no idea which people have "only" publicly dissociated themselves from him so why bother lying about that?

The issue then is are these people…

No it isn’t. The only issue is why you lie so consistently.

…correct in doing this and their reasons for doing so or has Krauss been misrepresented and wronged by the very community n which he had leadership.

He doesn’t “lead” anything, and nor are atheists or antitheists a “community”. Stop lying.

Anyway you cut it it is a matter of significance to religionethics.

Any way you cut it it absolutely isn’t, and nor could it be unless you could ever find a connection between the accusation made against him and the fact that he happens also to be an atheist. 

And then there is the matter of the response of antitheism…

“Antitheism” can’t “respond” to anything - it’s an abstract noun.

… as represented on this forum which has risked appearing as though it in majority wants these issues buried or is silent...

The atheists here have said no such thing. Stop lying.

…you yourself talk of closing avenues. Therefore shame on that community and those in it.

The avenue that’s been closed is your disgusting attempt at a slur by association. There is literally nothing to be said here about this case as no-one who posts here knows anything about it. It’s an internal disciplinary matter for his college. 

Now go and hang your head in shame.

[Walt Zingmatilder]

The avenue that’s been closed is your disgusting attempt at a slur by association. .

Association with what. He is an antitheist and is either being soundly and roundly being misrepresented heinously by well known antitheists or they are correct about him. You have been found wanting people to move along because there is supposedly nothing to see.

[bluehillside Retd.]

Vlad the Shameful,

Association with what.

Association with the accusation made against him.

He is an antitheist…

He’s also a theoretical physicist, a cosmologist, a Star Trek authority, an advocate for the public understanding of science and for all I know an avid stamp collector. None of these things have anything to do with the accusation against him either though, any more than his Christianity would if he happened to be a Christian rather than an atheist. 

…and is either being soundly and roundly being misrepresented heinously by well known antitheists or they are correct about him.

“Antitheists” haven’t done that – some people have. You’re just trying the same disgraceful slur by association here, this time with those who have disowned him.

You have been found wanting people to move along because there is nothing to see.

There is nothing to see because no-one here knows anything about the accusation made against him and, even if they did, it would be a private matter between his accuser, him and his college.

You’re just attempting in a new thread the same disgraceful behaviour you attempted before and were shut down on, so I’m not going to feed it any longer.

[jeremyp]

Association with what. He is an antitheist and is either being soundly and roundly being misrepresented heinously by well known antitheists or they are correct about him. You have been found wanting people to move along because there is supposedly nothing to see.

Can you misrepresent somebody soundly? Surely, misrepresentation is unsound, by definition.

[Walt Zingmatilder]

Vlad the Shameful,

Association wit the accusation made against him.

He’s also a theoretical physicist, a cosmologist, a Star Trek authority, an advocate for the public understanding of science and for all I know an avid stamp collector. None of these things have anything to do with the accusation against him either though, any more than his Christianity would if he happened to be a Christian rather than an atheist. 

“Antitheists” haven’t done that – some people have. You’re just trying the same disgraceful slur by association here, this time with those who have disowned him.

There is nothing to see because no-one here knows anything about the accusation made against him and, even if they did, it would be a private matter between his accuser, him and his college.

You’re just attempting in a new thread the same disgraceful behaviour you attempted before and were shut down on, so I’m not going to feed it any longer.

I'm assuming the readership of this forum is mainly antitheist. Therefore it is part of the split surrounding antitheism in this matter. Pro Krauss, against Krauss or wanting the whole issue to go away. That is what antitheists will be remembered for with regards to this major, neh, seismic event in non belief since any outcome will be devastating for antitheism..

[jeremyp]

any outcome will be devastating for antitheism..

Would it? Why?

[Maeght]

I'm assuming the readership of this forum is mainly antitheist. Therefore it is part of the split surrounding antitheism in this matter. Pro Krauss, against Krauss or wanting the whole issue to go away. That is what antitheists will be remembered for with regards to this major, neh, seismic event in non belief since any outcome will be devastating for antitheism..

Please explain why you think that.

[Aruntraveller]

As an atheist can I just say I haven't got a fucking clue who Krauss is, unless it's Alison Krauss in which case I do. But I don't think it is.

[Walt Zingmatilder]

Please explain why you think that.

How can any eventual outcome be good for public campaigning antitheism.
As I mentioned before there are two. Either he is misrepresented by the public and celebrated antitheist fraternity or he hasn't been. In any case, his thesis that grasp of science leads to greater morality would come under the microscope as would the central thesis of antitheism....... religions role as social evil.

[Stranger]

I'm assuming the readership of this forum is mainly antitheist. Therefore it is part of the split surrounding antitheism in this matter. Pro Krauss, against Krauss or wanting the whole issue to go away. That is what antitheists will be remembered for with regards to this major, neh, seismic event in non belief since any outcome will be devastating for antitheism..

You really do live in a little fantasy world all of your own. You seem to think "antitheism" is some sort of organisation and that this Krauss chap is some sort of leader or spokesperson for. Further, you seem to think that people here are associated with this non-existent organisation. I'd never even heard of Krauss before you posted about him. The matter is one for those (real) organisations for which he works or is associated with and those people who know him personally.

There is no "antitheism" organisation or entity to care about it or for it to be devastating for.

[Walt Zingmatilder]

As an atheist can I just say I haven't got a fucking clue who Krauss is, unless it's Alison Krauss in which case I do. But I don't think it is.

I think the people with most to answer to in the case of properly responding to antitheist shenanigans are those who try to suppressed information of them while being perfectly happy publicising religious shenanigans.

[Maeght]

How can any eventual outcome be good for public campaigning antitheism.
As I mentioned before there are two. Either he is misrepresented by the public and celebrated antitheist fraternity or he hasn't been. In any case, his thesis that grasp of science leads to greater morality would come under the microscope as would the central thesis of antitheism....... religions role as social evil.

If he has claimed these things and is guilty of inapprpriate behaviour then he would be a hypocrite. Why would thst reflect on other antitheists who are not?

[bluehillside Retd.]

I'm assuming the readership of this forum is mainly antitheist. Therefore it is part of the split surrounding antitheism in this matter. Pro Krauss, against Krauss or wanting the whole issue to go away. That is what antitheists will be remembered for with regards to this major, neh, seismic event in non belief since any outcome will be devastating for antitheism.

Utterly bonkers gibberish.

[Walt Zingmatilder]

If he has claimed these things and is guilty of inapprpriate behaviour then he would be a hypocrite. Why would thst reflect on other antitheists who are not?

Why might the activities of campaigning antitheists while campaigning antitheism reflect on other campaigning antitheists?

[Maeght]

Why might the activities of campaigning antitheists while campaigning antitheism reflect on other campaigning antitheists?

Yes.

Has Krauss made the claims you suggest anyway?