Windrush

[floo]

Do we know with absolute certainty that May is racist and lying, or is it an assumption?

[Nearly Sane]

Do we know with absolute certainty that May is racist and lying, or is it an assumption?

She's lying that the cards issue has any effect because they only become important after the 2014 legislation, and for not admitting that it's her legislation that caused the issue.  She's racist for introducing the legislation. Absolute certainty is a nonsensical concept. And absolute certainty vs an assumption is a false dichotomy

[floo]

She's lying that the cards issue has any effect because they only become important after the 2014 legislation, and for not admitting that it's her legislation that caused the issue.  She's racist for introducing the legislation. Absolute certainty is a nonsensical concept. And absolute certainty vs an assumption is a false dichotomy

I wonder if it was the SNP leader who was in frame for this if you would be roundly condemning her, or looking for an excuse for her conduct, just a thought?

[Nearly Sane]

I wonder if it was the SNP leader who was in frame for this if you would be roundly condemning her, or looking for an excuse for her conduct, just a thought?

Yes, why wouldn't I? And what difference would that make to whether May is fit to be PM?

[floo]

Yes, why wouldn't I? And what difference would that make to whether May is fit to be PM?

I rest my case!

[Nearly Sane]

I rest my case!

Eh?

[Robbie]

Do we know with absolute certainty that May is racist and lying, or is it an assumption?

The buck stops with her LR & she's obviously out of her depth. I too don't know who would replace her as Tory leader.People don't have to vote Tory though,they could go green or something  .

[Nearly Sane]

More reasons for May to resign.




https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/apr/18/mother-of-windrush-citizen-blames-passport-problems-for-his-death

[Walt Zingmatilder]

May is using the anti-Semitism affair in labour as a get out of jail free card on the Windrush affair, and admitted as much in statements in parliament.

[Nearly Sane]

May is using the anti-Semitism affair in labour as a get out of jail free card on the Windrush affair, and admitted as much in statements in parliament.

Fully agree with this, it was a disgusting piece of whataboutery and distraction.

[Walt Zingmatilder]

Fully agree with this, it was a disgusting piece of whataboutery and distraction.

The BBC have a report that the decision to generally dispense with paper records was taken in 2009. It seems to me that that could just be a general notice to shift to electronic records.

The actual decision to specifically destroy landing records was apparently taken in October 2010.

report here

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-43806710

[Nearly Sane]

The BBC have a report that the decision to generally dispense with paper records was taken in 2009. It seems to me that that could just be a general notice to shift to electronic records.

The actual decision to specifically destroy landing records was apparently taken in October 2010.

report here

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-43806710

Yep, already been arguing on here that the getting rid of records is only significant because of May's 2014 legislation. But apparently LR has made her case on  that so I am undone.

[Nearly Sane]

I rest my case!

And again eh?

[Robbie]

I rest my case!

I don't get that LR.
Didn't realise you were a Theresa May fan.

[Nearly Sane]

And May was warned and went ahead - lying racist and incompetent but supported by LR.


http://anotherangryvoice.blogspot.co.uk/2018/04/who-were-18-mps-who-bravely-voted.html

[Nearly Sane]

And distraction and evasion.  What a disgrace to have as PM!




https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/staggers/2018/04/did-theresa-may-just-lie-parliament

[floo]

And May was warned and went ahead - lying racist and incompetent but supported by LR.


http://anotherangryvoice.blogspot.co.uk/2018/04/who-were-18-mps-who-bravely-voted.html

Oh for heaven's sake NS, I am NOT supporting May if she is in the wrong on this issue, I didn't even vote for her party!

[Nearly Sane]

Oh for heaven's sake NS, I am NOT supporting May if she is in the wrong on this issue, I didn't even vote for her party!

You think she should remain PM, that's supporting her. BYW any chance of explaining what you think your case was that you rested?

[floo]

You think she should remain PM, that's supporting her. BYW any chance of explaining what you think your case was that you rested?

Where did I say that? Stop making things up?

[Nearly Sane]

Where did I say that? Stop making things up?

Surely when you said 'People are screaming for May to resign, but I can't think of anyone else in her party who is up to the job', you are  implying that she should stay, rather than agreeing she should resign? And again any chance of you explaining the case you rested?

[floo]

Surely when you said 'People are screaming for May to resign, but I can't think of anyone else in her party who is up to the job', you are  implying that she should stay, rather than agreeing she should resign? And again any chance of you explaining the case you rested?

You made an assumption, which was incorrect. I was wondering who would take over if May is forced out of office and wasn't fancying any of the alternatives, as I didn't think they would be any better. I don't rate May, I think David Cameron was a much better PM.

[Nearly Sane]

You made an assumption, which was incorrect. I was wondering who would take over if May is forced out of office and wasn't fancying any of the alternatives, as I didn't think they would be any better. I don't rate May, I think David Cameron was a much better PM.

So you agree she should resign? And again any chance of you explaining the case that you rested?

[floo]

So you agree she should resign? And again any chance of you explaining the case that you rested?

The only important people in this debate are the Windrush generation, and whilst she is still in office May had better ensure the wrongs of the past are put right.

[Nearly Sane]

The only important people in this debate are the Windrush generation, and whilst she is still in office May had better ensure the wrongs of the past are put right.

Any chance at all of an answer to either the question of whether she should resign or the 'case' that you 'rested'?

[floo]

Any chance at all of an answer to either the question of whether she should resign or the 'case' that you 'rested'?

I have already stated my case and have nothing more to say about May at present.