Author Topic: Assisted dying on the agenda in Guernsey  (Read 2593 times)

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Re: Assisted dying on the agenda in Guernsey
« Reply #25 on: May 18, 2018, 01:54:21 PM »
I know I have mentioned this before but to preserve societies sense of gravity about taking life, Public executioners had to face the process of a trial after each execution. Because of witness and law, acquittal or maybe it was pardon was always straight forward.

Should Assisted dying as it is so called be introduced I see no reason not to maintain this tradition as a reminder of the serious with which we should treat life and death.

Those who disagree are IMHO shaking hands with reducing the value of life and their pleas of kindness and compassion hollow particularly those deathlusters who will claim it would cost too much.

At the moment we are faced with assisted dying, helped by amateurs rather than professionals.

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Far better to have to have a change in the law to allow assisted dying by healthcare professionals incorporating all checks and balances before a person has died rather than after, when it is too late to prevent abuse.
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Re: Assisted dying on the agenda in Guernsey
« Reply #26 on: May 18, 2018, 01:55:32 PM »
Guernsey has voted against assisted dying, which is a shame. :(

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Re: Assisted dying on the agenda in Guernsey
« Reply #27 on: May 18, 2018, 02:11:54 PM »
I know I have mentioned this before but to preserve societies sense of gravity about taking life, Public executioners had to face the process of a trial after each execution. Because of witness and law, acquittal or maybe it was pardon was always straight forward.

Should Assisted dying as it is so called be introduced I see no reason not to maintain this tradition as a reminder of the serious with which we should treat life and death.

Those who disagree are IMHO shaking hands with reducing the value of life and their pleas of kindness and compassion hollow particularly those deathlusters who will claim it would cost too much.

You have every right to have and hold that position about assisted dying and there should never be any requirement for you to take part in assisted death in any way, in other words if you don't like it, don't do it and just leave the rest of us alone.

Now for those that want a form of an assisted death legislation brought in we should have it as of right, like anything else set by humans I dare say we'll never find the perfect solution, nor, I doubt is the legislation they have for assisted death in Oregon the USA perfect, but I've yet to hear or read anything significantly wrong with the system they've introduced over there, other than the objections made by those that would be against any form of assisted dying, whatever or wherever.

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Re: Assisted dying on the agenda in Guernsey
« Reply #28 on: May 18, 2018, 02:12:05 PM »
Reading all this makes me think that we have come a long way since Lord Dawson put down King George V.

Apparently he considered that terminating the king's life early would ensure that the news would not suffer the indignity of being first reported in the evening papers.
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Re: Assisted dying on the agenda in Guernsey
« Reply #29 on: May 18, 2018, 03:47:17 PM »
You have every right to have and hold that position about assisted dying and there should never be any requirement for you to take part in assisted death in any way, in other words if you don't like it, don't do it and just leave the rest of us alone.

Now for those that want a form of an assisted death legislation brought in we should have it as of right, like anything else set by humans I dare say we'll never find the perfect solution, nor, I doubt is the legislation they have for assisted death in Oregon the USA perfect, but I've yet to hear or read anything significantly wrong with the system they've introduced over there, other than the objections made by those that would be against any form of assisted dying, whatever or wherever.

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Re: Assisted dying on the agenda in Guernsey
« Reply #30 on: May 18, 2018, 09:08:13 PM »
Not only do I have a right to my position, I have a right to express it.

I don't expect my views to control your wishes about assisted dying nor do I expect my wishes about assisted dying to be controlled by others, such as yourself.

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Re: Assisted dying on the agenda in Guernsey
« Reply #31 on: May 18, 2018, 10:46:38 PM »
Not only do I have a right to my position, I have a right to express it.
Has anyone suggested otherwise?
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