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Rhiannon

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David Davis resigns
« on: July 09, 2018, 12:37:19 AM »
Yes I know this is Brexit related, but it's so  :o it kind of deserves its own thread.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-44761056
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Re: David Davis resigns
« Reply #1 on: July 09, 2018, 12:56:29 AM »
I guess May's Brexit is too soft for him?    Will the Ultras turn against her?   Another election?
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Re: David Davis resigns
« Reply #2 on: July 09, 2018, 01:19:29 AM »
I thought she'd got away with it, with Gove and Johnson toeing the line. Rees Mogg is talking about betrayal and country first. Fuck me, what a shambles.
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Re: David Davis resigns
« Reply #3 on: July 09, 2018, 08:14:35 AM »
On Saturday morning when it was proclaimed that a consensus had been reached and the cabinet was behind Mrs May I said to my beloved "I give it 48 hour".

I have a tent and shawl and crystal ball and take bookings at very reasonable rates.
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Re: David Davis resigns
« Reply #4 on: July 09, 2018, 08:17:50 AM »
Like this from Scientists for the EU:

Brexit is falling apart under the weight of its own contradictions.
 Ministers are running away because they just cannot weave the dream-fog into real-world nuts n’ bolts that they can stand by.
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Re: David Davis resigns
« Reply #5 on: July 09, 2018, 08:20:32 AM »
Seen Davis and his fellow ministerial resignee described as DExEUs Midnight Runners
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Re: David Davis resigns
« Reply #6 on: July 09, 2018, 09:32:03 AM »
If May is forced out, as seems possible, her replacement might be a million times worse, like Boris, Rees-Mogg or heaven help us, the ghastly man, Gove! :o
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Re: David Davis resigns
« Reply #7 on: July 09, 2018, 09:40:43 AM »
Quote from: Littleroses on July 09, 2018, 09:32:03 AM
If May is forced out, as seems possible, her replacement might be a million times worse, like Boris, Rees-Mogg or heaven help us, the ghastly man, Gove! :o
Given how our govt works, the question of who the PM  is, is essentially irrelevant.
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Re: David Davis resigns
« Reply #8 on: July 09, 2018, 09:42:01 AM »
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Given how our govt works,

Well that's a whole world of wrong right there  ;)
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Re: David Davis resigns
« Reply #9 on: July 09, 2018, 09:54:09 AM »
Comment from an EU Diplomat that given the negotiations in Brussels have taken several hundred hours, and that David has been involved in a total of 4 hours, and he was based in London, they will just deal with whomever London sends
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Re: David Davis resigns
« Reply #10 on: July 09, 2018, 10:13:57 AM »
Quote from: Littleroses on July 09, 2018, 09:32:03 AM
If May is forced out, as seems possible, her replacement might be a million times worse, like Boris, Rees-Mogg or heaven help us, the ghastly man, Gove! :o

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Given how our govt works, the question of who the PM  is, is essentially irrelevant.

Indeed. The hard brexit supporters are not a large component of the parliamentary Conservative Party - which is itself a minority government held in place by the support of the DUP. It is doubtful that there would be sufficient support for Johnson, Gove  or heaven help us, the ghastly man Rees-Mogg. :o

I suspect that the odds of an approaching election have shortened considerably.
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Re: David Davis resigns
« Reply #11 on: July 09, 2018, 10:22:50 AM »
When I was around 3, I  painted myself into a corner, and then seeing no way out, painted myself. It feels sort of like that here. I don't see the govt surviving without some form of Brexit, the govt cannot agree on a form of Brexit, but it cannot afford to go to an election, and it's not clear what the largest opposition party would say anyway, the people arguing for a 'people's vote ' on a deal have no chance of a deal being agreed because of the govt not being able to decide what it wants and then having the same problem with elections that the govt has.
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Re: David Davis resigns
« Reply #12 on: July 09, 2018, 10:32:02 AM »
Wow!

I counted 82 words in that sentence. And it made good sense!
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Re: David Davis resigns
« Reply #13 on: July 09, 2018, 10:35:25 AM »
Quote from: Harrowby Hall on July 09, 2018, 10:13:57 AM


I suspect that the odds of an approaching election have shortened considerably.

Which should make us weep at the lack of effective opposition.
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Re: David Davis resigns
« Reply #14 on: July 09, 2018, 10:56:08 AM »
The headline on Yahoo is that May is trying to avoid a Troy rebellion.
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Re: David Davis resigns
« Reply #15 on: July 09, 2018, 10:58:14 AM »
Quote from: Harrowby Hall on July 09, 2018, 10:32:02 AM
Wow!

I counted 82 words in that sentence. And it made good sense!
And was a considerable over simplication
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Re: David Davis resigns
« Reply #16 on: July 09, 2018, 11:16:48 AM »
Wondering if headline in Evening Standard just going to be 'Hahaha'
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Re: David Davis resigns
« Reply #17 on: July 09, 2018, 11:17:00 AM »
Quote from: Rhiannon on July 09, 2018, 10:56:08 AM
The headline on Yahoo is that May is trying to avoid a Troy rebellion.
Well, she probably feels under siege at the moment, and realises that the negotiations are all Greek to most people. The opposition just need to find her Achilles heel. She's a pretty disastrous Priam Minister.
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Re: David Davis resigns
« Reply #18 on: July 09, 2018, 11:17:54 AM »
Quote from: Nearly Sane on July 09, 2018, 11:16:48 AM
Wondering if headline in Evening Standard just going to be 'Hahaha'
More likely the evil version, Mwahaha!
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Re: David Davis resigns
« Reply #19 on: July 09, 2018, 11:36:12 AM »
Quote from: Steve H on July 09, 2018, 11:17:00 AM
... She's a pretty disastrous Priam Minister.

...  and he was toppled by wooden horse which he thought was a gift ...
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Re: David Davis resigns
« Reply #20 on: July 09, 2018, 12:23:18 PM »
Melanie Phillips suggesting that to save the people's faith in democracy, May gets dumped, Farage made into a lord, given leadership of Tory part and PMship
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Re: David Davis resigns
« Reply #21 on: July 09, 2018, 12:29:23 PM »
Quote from: Steve H on July 09, 2018, 11:17:00 AM
Well, she probably feels under siege at the moment, and realises that the negotiations are all Greek to most people. The opposition just need to find her Achilles heel. She's a pretty disastrous Priam Minister.

Oh very good.  :D
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Re: David Davis resigns
« Reply #22 on: July 09, 2018, 12:40:16 PM »
Quote from: Nearly Sane on July 09, 2018, 12:23:18 PM
Melanie Phillips suggesting that to save the people's faith in democracy, May gets dumped, Farage made into a lord, given leadership of Tory part and PMship

Of course.
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Re: David Davis resigns
« Reply #23 on: July 09, 2018, 12:45:59 PM »
Quote from: Nearly Sane on July 09, 2018, 12:23:18 PM
Melanie Phillips suggesting that to save the people's faith in democracy, May gets dumped, Farage made into a lord, given leadership of Tory part and PMship

Surely that's Newsthump. Surely?!?
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Re: David Davis resigns
« Reply #24 on: July 09, 2018, 12:48:57 PM »
Quote from: Trentvoyager on July 09, 2018, 12:45:59 PM
Surely that's Newsthump. Surely?!?

I feel sorry for satirists these days.
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