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Re: What is God?
« Reply #100 on: July 26, 2018, 01:45:58 PM »
I think Vlad is just trying to annoy people.   I was just thinking, when I cross the road I use empirical observation, but that doesn't make me an empiricist.
No, but the words of Adams metaphor means it is empiricist.

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Re: What is God?
« Reply #101 on: July 26, 2018, 02:04:50 PM »
No, but the words of Adams metaphor means it is empiricist.

No more than looking when you cross the road...
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Re: What is God?
« Reply #102 on: July 26, 2018, 02:12:07 PM »
No more than looking when you cross the road...

Do empiricists never cross the road?

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Re: What is God?
« Reply #103 on: July 26, 2018, 02:49:16 PM »
Do empiricists never cross the road?

Only when they judge it safe to do so.

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Re: What is God?
« Reply #104 on: July 26, 2018, 03:51:50 PM »
Only when they judge it safe to do so.

That's reasonable. I was worried that you were going to say they float above them.

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Re: What is God?
« Reply #105 on: July 26, 2018, 04:27:47 PM »
That's reasonable. I was worried that you were going to say they float above them.

Try this lot Vlad,       https://www.goodreads.com/author/quotes/4.Douglas_Adams

Do tell us about the quotes of his on this link that you manage to understand, if any.

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Re: What is God?
« Reply #106 on: July 26, 2018, 04:29:33 PM »
Looking at a few popular articles on empirical/empiricist, they often get conflated.   But one is about method, the second about philosophy.   So if someone is being empirical (and everyone is at times), that doesn't mean they're an empiricist.  Well, Vlad is deliberately conflating them.
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Re: What is God?
« Reply #107 on: July 26, 2018, 04:33:15 PM »
Try this lot Vlad,       https://www.goodreads.com/author/quotes/4.Douglas_Adams


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Re: What is God?
« Reply #108 on: July 28, 2018, 06:44:02 AM »
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Re: What is God?
« Reply #109 on: July 28, 2018, 11:41:55 AM »
What is God?

Why take the bother to ask? Nobody knows the answer.


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Re: What is God?
« Reply #110 on: July 29, 2018, 10:40:27 AM »
What is God?

Why take the bother to ask? Nobody knows the answer.


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Yes...you're right that no one knows what God really is. But there are some general ideas that are common across the world in all cultures.

God is said to be the innermost Consciousness within us all that generates everything else. It is not an external being.  You can think of it as similar to the idea of the String.

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Re: What is God?
« Reply #111 on: July 29, 2018, 07:20:36 PM »

Yes...you're right that no one knows what God really is. But there are some general ideas that are common across the world in all cultures.

God is said to be the innermost Consciousness within us all that generates everything else. It is not an external being.  You can think of it as similar to the idea of the String.

Yes, 'said to be' and that's all, not something that's worth taking any serious time over.

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Re: What is God?
« Reply #112 on: August 01, 2018, 06:23:06 AM »
Yes, 'said to be' and that's all, not something that's worth taking any serious time over.

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For people who realize that the material world is not everything and who want to explore the real inherent forces that power the world, it can be a very serious matter!   More important than life itself.

The need to dive deeper into our own inner forces can be extremely powerful.


 

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Re: What is God?
« Reply #113 on: August 01, 2018, 07:03:30 AM »

Yes...you're right that no one knows what God really is. But there are some general ideas that are common across the world in all cultures.

God is said to be the innermost Consciousness within us all that generates everything else. It is not an external being.  You can think of it as similar to the idea of the String.

That is not a general idea common across the world in all cultures.  Much more commonly, gods have been imagined as distinct beings, separate from other life.  The idea of worship is predicated on a being to be the object of devotion, no one prays to a String.

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Re: What is God?
« Reply #114 on: August 01, 2018, 07:31:41 AM »
That is not a general idea common across the world in all cultures.  Much more commonly, gods have been imagined as distinct beings, separate from other life.  The idea of worship is predicated on a being to be the object of devotion, no one prays to a String.


This will need a lot of explaining....but to put it simply...praying is a form of subjective submission to the inner forces.  It takes on an external form because that's the way the mind works. 

Explaining the idea as similar to a String is only for our understanding, for those people who cannot understand how something can internally control and transform itself to generate the world. 

That idea doesn't help in our subjective inner journey. 
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Re: What is God?
« Reply #115 on: August 02, 2018, 12:36:39 PM »

For people who realize that the material world is not everything and who want to explore the real inherent forces that power the world, it can be a very serious matter!   More important than life itself.

The need to dive deeper into our own inner forces can be extremely powerful.

This lot's for people that don't even realize thy're more than likely airheads the ones that think looking and sounding seriously important is enough, we all have the misfortune to meet these people from time to time, the ones that think their ideas are even more important than evidence based ideas; now I wonder who it was I was thinking of in particular?

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Re: What is God?
« Reply #116 on: August 02, 2018, 02:59:41 PM »
This lot's for people that don't even realize thy're more than likely airheads the ones that think looking and sounding seriously important is enough, we all have the misfortune to meet these people from time to time, the ones that think their ideas are even more important than evidence based ideas; now I wonder who it was I was thinking of in particular?

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I sometimes make the mistake of replying to you. Forgive me!!  ::)



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Re: What is God?
« Reply #117 on: August 02, 2018, 04:01:14 PM »

I sometimes make the mistake of replying to you. Forgive me!!  ::)

It is a discussion forum Sriram so what were you expecting when you spout superstitious nonsense, it's the information era now and it's about time you should be parting with those baseless old stories.

It's a good time to catch up, Mr Google is only one of so many sources of info available now, no we'd rather stick to this very clever bird picking a card with all of our future written out clearly in full on it?

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Re: What is God?
« Reply #118 on: August 02, 2018, 04:58:58 PM »


Ookaay...ippy!!
 
Thanks & Goodnight!

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Re: What is God?
« Reply #119 on: August 05, 2018, 02:58:57 PM »

Ookaay...ippy!!
 
Thanks & Goodnight!
 
Your words Sriram, as follows:

'For people who realize that the material world is not everything and who want to explore the real inherent forces that power the world',

I thought if anyone makes an assertion it's for them to back up whatever it is they have asserted.

Wouldn't, 'For people that feel that the material world is not everything', be a more level headed way of putting your views forward?

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