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Thatcher Statue in Grantham.
« on: July 17, 2018, 03:19:56 PM »
I just heard on the BBC radio 2 news they're arranging to erect a statue for this genteel kind hearted lady in Grantham I was thinking of opening up a book on how long before the inevitable, I think about within the first two weeks does any one else have a better estimate?

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Re: Thatcher Statue in Grantham.
« Reply #1 on: July 17, 2018, 03:22:30 PM »
I just heard on the BBC radio 2 news they're arranging to erect a statue for this genteel kind hearted lady in Grantham I was thinking of opening up a book on how long before the inevitable, I think about within the first two weeks does any one else have a better estimate?

ippy

Are you talking about it being pulled down, for being a symbol of socialism, by a Rees Mogg government?

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« Reply #2 on: July 17, 2018, 03:27:23 PM »
Are you talking about it being pulled down, for being a symbol of socialism, by a Rees Mogg government?
  :D :D And being about the post Victorian age which will be erased from British history

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Re: Thatcher Statue in Grantham.
« Reply #3 on: July 17, 2018, 03:37:40 PM »
I just heard on the BBC radio 2 news they're arranging to erect a statue for this genteel kind hearted lady in Grantham I was thinking of opening up a book on how long before the inevitable, I think about within the first two weeks does any one else have a better estimate?

ippy


I would think within the first 30 minutes some 'admirer' would cover it with graffiti, demolition might take up to a week.  Who would be paying for this monstrosity to be erected?
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Re: Thatcher Statue in Grantham.
« Reply #4 on: July 17, 2018, 03:40:12 PM »

I would think within the first 30 minutes some 'admirer' would cover it with graffiti, demolition might take up to a week.  Who would be paying for this monstrosity to be erected?
Are you describing the Leaderene as 'a monstrous erection' madam?

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Re: Thatcher Statue in Grantham.
« Reply #5 on: July 17, 2018, 03:42:09 PM »

I would think within the first 30 minutes some 'admirer' would cover it with graffiti, demolition might take up to a week.  Who would be paying for this monstrosity to be erected?
TBH not sure I see the problem. She was a hugely successful PM in electoral terms, the money was privately raised, and there are many who regards those we do have statues of e.g. Churchill as hugely questionable.


https://stv.tv/news/uk/1423498-margaret-thatcher-s-home-town-bids-for-statue/


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Re: Thatcher Statue in Grantham.
« Reply #6 on: July 17, 2018, 03:45:17 PM »
TBH not sure I see the problem. She was a hugely successful PM in electoral terms, the money was privately raised, and there are many who regards those we do have statues of e.g. Churchill as hugely questionable.


https://stv.tv/news/uk/1423498-margaret-thatcher-s-home-town-bids-for-statue/


Churchill was a lousy peacetime PM, but without him as the wartime leader I suspect the outcome might not have been good.
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Re: Thatcher Statue in Grantham.
« Reply #7 on: July 17, 2018, 03:48:21 PM »

Churchill was a lousy peacetime PM, but without him as the wartime leader I suspect the outcome might not have been good.
Not really him being a bit shite that I was referring to. Some regard him as a racist war criminal

https://crimesofbritain.com/2016/09/13/the-trial-of-winston-churchill/
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« Reply #8 on: July 17, 2018, 04:02:30 PM »
Not really him being a bit shite that I was referring to. Some regard him as a racist war criminal

https://crimesofbritain.com/2016/09/13/the-trial-of-winston-churchill/
None of the alleged crimes are referenced.

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« Reply #9 on: July 17, 2018, 04:04:52 PM »
None of the alleged crimes are referenced.
Not sure what you mean by 'referenced' here They are described along with where they see the responsibility. You are fine to disagree but don't understand your point

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Re: Thatcher Statue in Grantham.
« Reply #10 on: July 17, 2018, 04:10:30 PM »
Anyway before I indulge in full on character assassination of the blessed Winnie, what is the problem anyone has with a statue of the damned Maggie specifically?

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Re: Thatcher Statue in Grantham.
« Reply #11 on: July 17, 2018, 04:32:18 PM »
Anyway before I indulge in full on character assassination of the blessed Winnie,
''Why should he be immune.....eh Sane?''

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Re: Thatcher Statue in Grantham.
« Reply #12 on: July 17, 2018, 04:37:07 PM »
''Why should he be immune.....eh Sane?''
Because he's only on topic as a comparison to SWMBO

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Re: Thatcher Statue in Grantham.
« Reply #13 on: July 17, 2018, 05:36:15 PM »
My home town is Grantham. It's where I grew up and went to school. We had a family friend who knew Margaret Roberts - they were neighbours on North Parade. He always said that she was "a bit snobby".

I don't believe that in later life, Margaret Thatcher (née Roberts) felt any real connection with Grantham. When she became a peer she rejected the inclusion of Grantham in her formal title and chose Kesteven (the Part of Lincolnshire which included Grantham and the former county council name) instead.

There are two statues in the centre of Grantham. One is a politician, Frederick Tollemache - the town's MP for about 40 years.

The other is of a man really worth celebrating. A local boy who went to the town's grammar school, who became one of the most significant figures in the history of the planet: Isaac Newton.


Additional thought:

Both Tollemache and Newton have both received the highest honour, in Grantham, that it is possible for any municipality to bestow: each has had a pub named after him. Could you see this happening to Methodist Margaret?
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Re: Thatcher Statue in Grantham.
« Reply #14 on: July 17, 2018, 05:59:51 PM »
Maybe a Bingo Hall? Does the Isaac Newton only sell cider?


And she was fond of a whisky.

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« Reply #15 on: July 17, 2018, 06:14:35 PM »
Maybe a Bingo Hall? Does the Isaac Newton only sell cider?

No. Anything with a specific gravity.
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Re: Thatcher Statue in Grantham.
« Reply #16 on: July 17, 2018, 08:15:34 PM »
 I wonder if there'll be any miner alterations to her statue.

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« Reply #17 on: July 17, 2018, 08:31:20 PM »
No. Anything with a specific gravity.
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Re: Thatcher Statue in Grantham.
« Reply #18 on: July 17, 2018, 09:54:18 PM »

Churchill was a lousy peacetime PM, but without him as the wartime leader I suspect the outcome might not have been good.



It goes a lot deeper than that.
Yes, a superb otaror in WWI, but as a cabinet minister in WWi and home secretary in the postwar period, not to mention being replaced in his Dundee constituency by the one and only temperance candidate ever to sit in the Commons, he had a 'unique' record.
That still makes him worthy of a statue, though.
As far as the Iron Lady?
Well, we can decorate her with a traffic cone, as per Wellington in Glasgow's George square.
It will add a bit of colour......
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« Reply #19 on: July 17, 2018, 10:59:33 PM »
I will make apoint of travelling to Grantham, just so that I can piss on it.
I once tried using "chicken" as a password, but was told it must contain a capital so I tried "chickenkiev"
On another occasion, I tried "beefstew", but was told it wasn't stroganoff.

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Re: Thatcher Statue in Grantham.
« Reply #20 on: July 17, 2018, 11:25:27 PM »
I will make apoint of travelling to Grantham, just so that I can piss on it.

Can I join you Steve? I'd rather leave something more permanent.

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Re: Thatcher Statue in Grantham.
« Reply #21 on: July 17, 2018, 11:38:02 PM »
By all means! Bring your own sledgehammer, and we'll vandalise the old bitch.
I once tried using "chicken" as a password, but was told it must contain a capital so I tried "chickenkiev"
On another occasion, I tried "beefstew", but was told it wasn't stroganoff.

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Re: Thatcher Statue in Grantham.
« Reply #22 on: July 18, 2018, 10:35:17 AM »

Both Tollemache and Newton have both received the highest honour, in Grantham, that it is possible for any municipality to bestow: each has had a pub named after him. Could you see this happening to Methodist Margaret?

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Re: Thatcher Statue in Grantham.
« Reply #23 on: July 18, 2018, 05:52:44 PM »
By all means! Bring your own sledgehammer, and we'll vandalise the old bitch.

I think it's more than likely we'd be too late but looking on the bright side if we get there quickly enough we might be just in time to actually see the type of redesign this obscene article gets actually happening.

I really look forward to seeing its demise, paint or anything like it's no good they can remove paint and and clear it up in no time so that wouldn't be worth doing, I hope whatever's done to it is in some way lasting, total destruction would be good.

How about a special medal being struck for the perpetrators?

Oh yes by the way I never did like Maggi very much, just in case you hadn't noticed.

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Re: Thatcher Statue in Grantham.
« Reply #24 on: July 18, 2018, 06:27:54 PM »
By all means! Bring your own sledgehammer, and we'll vandalise the old bitch.
It's entirely up to you of course but I'd leave it up to the pigeons.

Purely on the basis that they can fly and I can't.
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