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Re: Conservatism doesn't exist
« Reply #100 on: July 29, 2018, 05:04:43 PM »
And again with the avoidance.

Openly stating exactly my position, sorry you don't like it.

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Re: Conservatism doesn't exist
« Reply #101 on: July 29, 2018, 05:16:56 PM »
You will only get avoidance with Brexit fans.   Reason is, they haven't a clue what it involves.   Ask them about non-discrimination rules under WTO,  and have a laugh.

I don't think the govt idea is for households to stockpile, but food companies.  But they probably can't,  because many have just-in-time production lines.  However, no doubt many individuals will start.  Do we make our own bog-rolls?

Seriously Wiggi, if we both wrote out in full where we think each other have got brexit wrong, I doubt we'd agree about the size or colour of the paper, there can be as many attempted wind ups as anyone likes to comes out with I've said as much as I'm prepared to say/write.

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Re: Conservatism doesn't exist
« Reply #102 on: July 29, 2018, 05:24:04 PM »
Neither of us will be changing our minds about how we voted in the Ref, so I see it as completely pointless arguing about the various aspects of in or out.

I probably agree with most of the people you see as damn near holding views about the EU as poisonous, so it is rather obvious any exchange I'm sure would turn in ways I don't wish to go.

The last paragraph is telling you my thoughts as far I will be going into how I feel about the EU.

I would feel something like bashing remainers if we had lost the vote, I understand a little of how it must feel for remainers and that's about it; perhaps find someone else to bash, metaphorically.

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Actual arguments conspicuous by their absence. If you feel like you are being bashed, it's probably because Brexiteers have plunged us into chaos and they won't tell us why.

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Re: Conservatism doesn't exist
« Reply #103 on: July 29, 2018, 05:29:33 PM »
One interesting suggestion is to charge no tariffs on EU imports.   However, under WTO  rules, this must then be applied to all countries.  Also, it ignores checks on hygiene, provenance, etc., the legendary non-tariff barriers.  Never mind, the govt will give us the full details by 2025.

Isn't the lack of information incredible?  But then I thought the govt don't actually know what they're doing.
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ippy

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Re: Conservatism doesn't exist
« Reply #104 on: July 29, 2018, 05:59:52 PM »
Actual arguments conspicuous by their absence. If you feel like you are being bashed, it's probably because Brexiteers have plunged us into chaos and they won't tell us why.


Why the inference that you think I feel like I'm being bashed? Nothing to do with anything I've written, it looks like a Vlad style twisting of the semantics.

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Re: Conservatism doesn't exist
« Reply #105 on: July 29, 2018, 07:54:10 PM »

Why the inference that you think I feel like I'm being bashed? Nothing to do with anything I've written, it looks like a Vlad style twisting of the semantics.

Well there was this.


I would feel something like bashing remainers if we had lost the vote, I understand a little of how it must feel for remainers and that's about it; perhaps find someone else to bash, metaphorically.
 

The implication of that is that you think we are bashing you
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Re: Conservatism doesn't exist
« Reply #106 on: July 30, 2018, 07:50:25 PM »
I hope Steve Bannon finds Boris Johnson as skilful, trustworthy and loyal a servent as we did when the fat cockwomble of Uxbridge was foreign secretary.