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Re: Climate change is upon us....
« Reply #225 on: September 12, 2020, 06:52:39 AM »



Yeah...as the Covid19 problem slows down...we can start worrying about Climate Change, heart problems, cancers...etc..  Nice!  :(

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Re: Climate change is upon us....
« Reply #226 on: September 12, 2020, 07:53:19 AM »
We're screwed. As torridon quoted up-thread: "we're in a genetic cul-de-sac; clever enough to understand the problem, but too stupid, selfish and weak to respond".
What  category does the ability to cause this come in?
Clever enough ........or too stupid, selfish and weak to respond?
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Re: Climate change is upon us....
« Reply #227 on: September 14, 2020, 06:06:04 PM »
Did the lock downs this year actually succeed in reducing global carbon dioxide levels ? I just downloaded CO2 data from Mauna Loa observatory and charted it expecting to see a dip through March - May this year.  Have a look and see what impact the worldwide economic lock down had in our fight to lower carbon dioxide levels.  Data is up to July 2020

https://datastudio.google.com/reporting/b4a43d9b-c565-4db2-91b3-31958447882c
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Re: Climate change is upon us....
« Reply #228 on: September 18, 2020, 01:04:33 PM »
Warming produces bizarre landscape features in Siberia

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-54195656

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« Reply #229 on: September 18, 2020, 04:28:45 PM »
Goodness, that certainly is scarring.
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Re: Climate change is upon us....
« Reply #230 on: October 14, 2020, 12:33:18 PM »
Full on climate denial sermonising from American pastor John MacArthur

https://www.alternet.org/2020/10/god-intended-it-as-a-disposable-planet-meet-the-us-pastor-preaching-climate-change-denial/

Does being a pastor buy you a free pass for spreading disinformation ?
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Re: Climate change is upon us....
« Reply #231 on: March 06, 2021, 12:05:09 PM »
Interactive maps from the National Trust here about the projected effects of climate change in the UK:

https://nationaltrust.maps.arcgis.com/apps/webappviewer/index.html?id=0bc569747210413a8c8598535a6b36e1

Takes a bit of getting used to but very interesting.

Edit: Sorry only England, Wales and N.Ireland showing up.
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Re: Climate change is upon us....
« Reply #232 on: March 06, 2021, 06:39:49 PM »
Full on climate denial sermonising from American pastor John MacArthur

https://www.alternet.org/2020/10/god-intended-it-as-a-disposable-planet-meet-the-us-pastor-preaching-climate-change-denial/

Does being a pastor buy you a free pass for spreading disinformation ?

It is sad his his deluded followers can't see how crazy this guy is. >:(
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Re: Climate change is upon us....
« Reply #233 on: June 16, 2021, 06:18:26 AM »


https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/irreversible-warming-tipping-point-possibly-triggered-say-scientist-2464879?pfrom=home-ndtv_topscroll

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The tipping point for irreversible global warming may have already been triggered, the scientist who led the biggest-ever expedition to the Arctic warned on Tuesday.

"The disappearance of summer sea ice in the Arctic is one of the first landmines in this minefield, one of the tipping points that we set off first when we push warming too far," said Markus Rex.

"And one can essentially ask if we haven't already stepped on this mine and already set off the beginning of the explosion."

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Re: Climate change is upon us....
« Reply #234 on: June 16, 2021, 09:33:20 AM »

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Re: Climate change is upon us....
« Reply #235 on: June 16, 2021, 12:23:39 PM »
... and a warning for the UK.....
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-57487943

Long term planning. Not really our thing.
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Re: Climate change is upon us....
« Reply #236 on: June 19, 2021, 06:32:46 AM »


Probably one of the first islands to disappear due to climate change..... :(

https://www.bbc.com/reel/video/p09lpjnj/is-this-the-first-island-to-vanish-due-to-climate-change-

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Re: Climate change is upon us....
« Reply #237 on: June 30, 2021, 07:11:04 PM »

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Re: Climate change is upon us....
« Reply #238 on: June 30, 2021, 08:04:07 PM »
Yes who would have thought one of the coldest countries on Earth would be posting up such temperatures.  What's going to happen when a heatwave like that hits Mumbai or Jakarta or Lagos.

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Re: Climate change is upon us....
« Reply #240 on: July 01, 2021, 11:10:17 AM »
There will still be people like that cretin, Trump, who will deny global warming has anything to do with human activity. >:(
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Re: Climate change is upon us....
« Reply #241 on: July 01, 2021, 11:51:05 AM »
There will still be people like that cretin, Trump, who will deny global warming has anything to do with human activity. >:(

Yes there will, but sensible people, people who care have just got to make sure that the arguments are made and backed up and people will come to realise the truth of the matter. In some cases, Lytton for example, nature will do the persuading all by itself.
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« Reply #242 on: July 01, 2021, 12:14:00 PM »
Yes there will, but sensible people, people who care have just got to make sure that the arguments are made and backed up and people will come to realise the truth of the matter. In some cases, Lytton for example, nature will do the persuading all by itself.

I hope you are right.
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Re: Climate change is upon us....
« Reply #243 on: July 01, 2021, 01:38:44 PM »
I may be wrong if the BBC's latest attempt is anything to go by  :(

https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/news/outrage-as-bbc-bitesize-lists-positive-impacts-of-climate-change-279265/?

If they were covering Italy in the 2nd World war I'm sure they would be focussing on Mussolini's fabled talents at getting the trains to run on time.*

*Except he didn't. But the state of the BBC at the moment they probably wouldn't have checked that fact.

I've probably said this before but if one person says it's raining outside and the other says it's dry. It's not the BBC's job to report both views, it's their job to look out of the fucking window.
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Re: Climate change is upon us....
« Reply #244 on: July 01, 2021, 03:13:24 PM »
I may be wrong if the BBC's latest attempt is anything to go by  :(

https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/news/outrage-as-bbc-bitesize-lists-positive-impacts-of-climate-change-279265/?

If they were covering Italy in the 2nd World war I'm sure they would be focussing on Mussolini's fabled talents at getting the trains to run on time.*

*Except he didn't. But the state of the BBC at the moment they probably wouldn't have checked that fact.

I've probably said this before but if one person says it's raining outside and the other says it's dry. It's not the BBC's job to report both views, it's their job to look out of the fucking window.

Bitesize, though, is constrained by the National Curriculum - is there anything in that which constrains the debate at all? If I recall, that was last updated by Gove's DfE, and Gove wasn't the greenest of Tories.

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Re: Climate change is upon us....
« Reply #245 on: July 16, 2021, 11:37:25 AM »
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-europe-57860153

For those in denial it must be getting more and more difficult to avoid the conclusion that something is really, really wrong.

I spoke to my partners cousin who lives in Sinzig, a town in the district of Ahrweiler yesterday evening. She is ok, but completely cut off. Which is very difficult for her as her husband who is terminally ill is in hospital in Bonn which is normally an hours drive away. She cannot currently get there at all.
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« Reply #246 on: July 16, 2021, 11:53:19 AM »
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-europe-57860153

For those in denial it must be getting more and more difficult to avoid the conclusion that something is really, really wrong.

I spoke to my partners cousin who lives in Sinzig is a town in the district of Ahrweiler yesterday evening. She is ok, but completely cut off. Which is very difficult for her as her husband who is terminally ill is in hospital in Bonn which is normally an hours drive away. She cannot currently get there at all.

How terribly sad. :( Those in climate denial denial are idiots, imo. 
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Re: Climate change is upon us....
« Reply #247 on: July 22, 2021, 02:20:20 PM »
Splendid article:

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/jul/22/covid-climate-crisis-politics-individualism?

Draws some parallels between our responses to Covid and the climate crisis.
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« Reply #248 on: August 05, 2021, 06:40:14 PM »
So you kind of think maybe we can have a bit of a break and there will be at least a pause in the bad news. Wrong.

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/aug/05/climate-crisis-scientists-spot-warning-signs-of-gulf-stream-collapse?
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