Climate change is upon us....

[Sriram]

Alright...alright!   So, most of you need a 15 year old girl's speech to impress upon you the importance of Climate change and the contributions that we need to make.....regardless of what hundreds of scientists and others have been saying for decades.  Fine!   

[Nearly Sane]

Alright...alright!   So, most of you need a 15 year old girl's speech to impress upon you the importance of Climate change and the contributions that we need to make.....regardless of what hundreds of scientists and others have been saying for decades.  Fine!

  Why does Thunberg make you feel so insecure?

[Harrowby Hall]

Trent is right, Sriram, this is a big deal.

A 16 year old schoolgirl from Sweden has had far more effect than all the scientists and concerned politicians in bringing the approaching calamity to everyone's notice - because she is just that - a 16 year old Swedish schoolgirl.

She doesn't use rational scientific language to impress her message on the world. She uses passion. She uses the fact that our selfish behaviour is screwing up her future. Not our future because will shall not be around.

With a bit of luck she might even have impressed her message on the walking talking arsehole which - currently - is the president of the USA. If that particular manifestation of the failings of humanity can even consider her message she will have been far more successful than all the aforementioned experts.

[Sriram]

NS,

Why would I be insecure about a school girl in Sweden?!! I can see why schoolchildren draw inspiration from one of their own. That makes sense.

But  Govt. leaders and oldy goldies like most of you here, who did not bother to change their personal lifestyles or Govt policies in spite of decades of warning..... suddenly being inspired by a school girl is.....well.....amusing! 

Maybe I am right that many people are still adolescent in their mental makeup.

Well...doesn't matter really. All for the good finally, I guess!     

[Sriram]

Trent is right, Sriram, this is a big deal.

A 16 year old schoolgirl from Sweden has had far more effect than all the scientists and concerned politicians in bringing the approaching calamity to everyone's notice - because she is just that - a 16 year old Swedish schoolgirl.

She doesn't use rational scientific language to impress her message on the world. She uses passion. She uses the fact that our selfish behaviour is screwing up her future. Not our future because will shall not be around.

With a bit of luck she might even have impressed her message on the walking talking arsehole which - currently - is the president of the USA. If that particular manifestation of the failings of humanity can even consider her message she will have been far more successful than all the aforementioned experts.

Yeah HH....maybe you are right.

[Nearly Sane]

NS,

Why would I be insecure about a school girl in Sweden?!! I can see why schoolchildren draw inspiration from one of their own. That makes sense.

But  Govt. leaders and oldy goldies like most of you here, who did not bother to change their personal lifestyles or Govt policies in spite of decades of warning..... suddenly being inspired by a school girl is.....well.....amusing! 

Maybe I am right that many people are still adolescent in their mental makeup.

Well...doesn't matter really. All for the good finally, I guess!   

  I have no idea why Thumberg makes you insecure, and yet it is clear from your post she does. To the extent that you have needed to misrepresent what people8 have said. Why did you feel the need to do that? 

[Aruntraveller]

But  Govt. leaders and oldy goldies like most of you here, who did not bother to change their personal lifestyles or Govt policies in spite of decades of warning..... suddenly being inspired by a school girl is.....well.....amusing! 

Maybe I am right that many people are still adolescent in their mental makeup.

Don't be so insulting. You, if you read previous threads, would be aware that many posters were concerned about this issue before GT came along.

All I was saying is that she has managed to reach more people than you and arguably David Attenborough. That doesn't diminish either yours or David A's efforts, it just means another channel for challenging the malign forces determined to keep to the status quo has opened up.

[Udayana]

Oh....so you think I don't care about climate change and am not doing anything about it.....simply because I don't consider Greta as a big deal?!! 

That's a nice one...!!!

Quite a bizarre response, don't know how you got to it.. seems like "protesting too much"!

Greta is a face and emotional connection, there are millions of others engaged. The main thing is to have a framework in place that addresses the economics as well as the technology: Ocasio-Cortez and the Green New Deal - at least for the USA. Then, to build around it.

[Nearly Sane]

Margaret Thatcher was the Greta Thunberg of her day, apparently


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-49967784

[Walter]

no need to panic , global warming will never happen. The Earth is flat!

[torridon]

https://next-media-api.ft.com/renditions/15688350393280/1280x720.mp4

[Roses]

no need to panic , global warming will never happen. The Earth is flat!

So we should be talking about flat earth warming!

[Nearly Sane]

Extinction Rebellion will lose much support from this type of approach. The reaction of the crowd is quite scary, though he does appear to kick out at the initial attempt to remove him.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-50079716

[Roses]

Extinction Rebellion will lose much support from this type of approach. The reaction of the crowd is quite scary, though he does appear to kick out at the initial attempt to remove him.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-50079716

By behaving badly the ER lot lose any credibility.

[Nearly Sane]

By behaving badly the ER lot lose any credibility.

It isn't really the behaving badly, it's targeting public transport that will lose support from those who might support them.

[ad_orientem]

Extinction Rebellion will lose much support from this type of approach. The reaction of the crowd is quite scary, though he does appear to kick out at the initial attempt to remove him.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-50079716

Got to love Canning Town! (Lived there for the first six years of my life)

Haven't any of these protestors got jobs to go to?

[Nearly Sane]

Got to love Canning Town! (Lived there for the first six years of my life)

Haven't any of these protestors got jobs to go to?

There seem to be protesters with jobs. I am sure some don't. Is it relevant to whether they are right?

[ad_orientem]

There seem to be protesters with jobs. I am sure some don't. Is it relevant to whether they are right?

No. I just wonder. I mean, I have to pay for my food etc, or maybe they're living off mummy and daddy's money. Anyway, good on the East End working class who didn't put up with their silly buggers.

[Nearly Sane]

No. I just wonder. I mean, I have to pay for my food etc, or maybe they're living off mummy and daddy's money. Anyway, good on the East End working class who didn't put up with their silly buggers.

Yeah cos everyone catching the DLR at Canning Town is working class!

[torridon]

Got to love Canning Town! (Lived there for the first six years of my life)

Haven't any of these protestors got jobs to go to?

Nobody will have jobs to go to if we continue to ignore the science.

[Nearly Sane]

Nobody will have jobs to go to if we continue to ignore the science.

Though making stupid counterproductive protests won't help either.

[ad_orientem]

Nobody will have jobs to go to if we continue to ignore the science.

I'm not talking about ignoring the science, but pissing people off like that is wrong and I also heard many of them are being payed to protest, which means you have to question their motives.

[Nearly Sane]

I'm talking about ignoring the science, but pissing people off like that is wrong and I also heard many of them are being payed to protest, which means you have to question their motives.

Though just as with the idea of some protesters being jobless, it has nothing to do about being right.

[ad_orientem]

Though just as with the idea of some protesters being jobless, it has nothing to do about being right.

Granted. I do wonder who's paying them though and why. I think they overstate their case sometimes and focus their protests in completely the wrong direction, like the average person trying to get to work to earn a crust as if it was all their fault (which it isn't).

[Nearly Sane]

Granted. I do wonder who's paying them though and why. I think they overstate their case sometimes and focus their protests in completely the wrong direction, like the average person trying to get to work to earn a crust as if it was all their fault (which it isn't).

I think yesterday's protests were deeply stupid. XR isn't really an organisation more a label. There ware a lot of XR supporters who disagreed with it. Somehow a protest on the street which may delay people in buses is seen as ok since they feel collateral rather than specific damage. Too much of the protests though seem as you have been expressing to have a strong miasma of middle class privilege. Yesterday was so obtuse that part of me wondered about whether it might be done as a way to make XR look bad.