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Re: Climate change is upon us....
« Reply #425 on: September 21, 2023, 08:39:33 AM »
It looks as though Risky has made a serious mis-step, even on the cynical, populist grounds which probably motivated his U-turn: it seems that the British public are broadly in favour of net-zero policies.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/sep/21/al-gore-rishi-sunak-climate-crisis
You have to remember that for the Tories to win an election they don't need a majority of votes, and that being 'broadly in favour of net zero' doesn't mean being in favour of specific policies.

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« Reply #426 on: September 21, 2023, 08:55:23 AM »
In one interview this morning, Kemi Badenoch I think, said that delaying the ban on the sale of new petrol cars would help "hard-pressed families". Why the interviewer didn't point out that hard-pressed families can't afford new cars of any sort is beyond me.
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Before we work on Artificial Intelligence shouldn't we address the problem of natural stupidity.

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« Reply #427 on: September 21, 2023, 09:06:29 AM »
The interesting thing now is how will Labour position itself on this. Starmer's reaction to Uxbridge would hint at the Tories being echoed.

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« Reply #428 on: September 21, 2023, 11:46:02 AM »
The front pages. Usual shite from the right wing rags, except for the Times, which is more nuanced.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/sep/21/sunak-green-gamble-pm-net-zero-u-turn-divides-uk-front-pages
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« Reply #429 on: September 21, 2023, 01:13:18 PM »
In one interview this morning, Kemi Badenoch I think, said that delaying the ban on the sale of new petrol cars would help "hard-pressed families". Why the interviewer didn't point out that hard-pressed families can't afford new cars of any sort is beyond me.

The ban on new petrol cars was just performative. It was always going to be postponed.
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« Reply #430 on: September 21, 2023, 04:32:16 PM »
That's appalling - but it seems to be standard these day that people think they are entitled to their own facts!

I saw one Tory dinosaur being interviewed by Chris Packham last night, who one might have expected this to come out with this sort of thing (I believe it was Peter Lilley, whom I thought and hoped had died). But one might have expected better things of Neil Oliver, who I believe is a trained archaeologist, and whom one might expect to be a little more concerned with facts. Perhaps he picked up some strange brain infection on his travels, given the bizarre nature of his comments over the last few years.
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« Reply #431 on: September 21, 2023, 09:00:26 PM »
I saw one Tory dinosaur being interviewed by Chris Packham last night, who one might have expected this to come out with this sort of thing (I believe it was Peter Lilley, whom I thought and hoped had died).
I watched it tonight it was Lord Lilley. He had no idea of how to use or read statistics  and thought every 'event' was completely separate  from every other event.
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« Reply #432 on: September 22, 2023, 02:02:41 PM »
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« Reply #433 on: September 23, 2023, 01:41:16 PM »
6 months is a long time in politics


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-66900999

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« Reply #435 on: September 27, 2023, 09:05:54 AM »
Can't think of a by election that's been as significant in influencing govt policies as Uxbridge


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-66927242

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« Reply #436 on: September 27, 2023, 04:54:50 PM »
A Rosebank by any other name...


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« Reply #437 on: September 27, 2023, 09:34:43 PM »
And govt doing really well with UK nature


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-66923930

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Re: Climate change is upon us....
« Reply #438 on: September 29, 2023, 09:02:10 AM »

Those bad 20mph limits, free the motorist! I feel the need, the need for 30mph speed!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-66957733

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« Reply #439 on: September 30, 2023, 10:50:32 AM »
The fall of the Berlin Wall, 9/11, 7/7. Events seared on the brain where I can remember exactly where I was and what I was doing. And now to add to that the great hope inspired by Rishi Sunak that at last the great and terrible scourge that is the war on the motorist is ending. The dreadful suffering of 20 mph limits, and low traffic zones, things almost too darkly frightening to think about, and the hero Sunak with his combustion engine of glorious righteousness sets us free!


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Re: Climate change is upon us....
« Reply #440 on: September 30, 2023, 06:06:01 PM »
 ;D ;D

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« Reply #441 on: October 05, 2023, 02:30:22 AM »
¡A las barricadas!

I think we should start making bets on what laughably beyond parody cunning stunt Just Stop Oil will do next.


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« Reply #442 on: October 05, 2023, 08:14:59 AM »
¡A las barricadas!

I think we should start making bets on what laughably beyond parody cunning stunt Just Stop Oil will do next.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-67013671

FFS.

Don't they realise they are just isolating themselves from people who would be sympathetic to their cause?

Why on earth didn't they try to disrupt the Tory conference?

That would make some sort of coherent sense given the appalling way the Conservative government is approaching environmental issues.
Before we work on Artificial Intelligence shouldn't we address the problem of natural stupidity.

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« Reply #443 on: October 05, 2023, 09:07:08 AM »
FFS.

Don't they realise they are just isolating themselves from people who would be sympathetic to their cause?

Why on earth didn't they try to disrupt the Tory conference?

That would make some sort of coherent sense given the appalling way the Conservative government is approaching environmental issues.
Were I to be an agent of the 'deep state' given a mission to infiltrate and undermine JSO, this is the sort of stuff I would suggest they do. Though I would have had everyone wearing Susan Boyle masks.
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« Reply #444 on: October 05, 2023, 02:08:41 PM »

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« Reply #445 on: October 05, 2023, 08:11:45 PM »
I watched it tonight it was Lord Lilley. He had no idea of how to use or read statistics  and thought every 'event' was completely separate  from every other event.
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Lord Lilley won't worry about El Nino happening again. Just another coincidence.
Happening  again and again.
And more and more often.
But still just a coincidence.
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Re: Climate change is upon us....
« Reply #446 on: October 08, 2023, 09:10:17 PM »
Save the planet, destroy the Nipple! Or maybe not...


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« Reply #447 on: October 11, 2023, 03:06:17 PM »
Perhaps this will be the crucial.kick up the arse

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-67078674

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« Reply #449 on: November 25, 2023, 08:26:46 AM »