Climate change is upon us....

[Nearly Sane]

So what happens now, another suitcase and another COP


https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-67557533

[Nearly Sane]

Why do I have Doctor Evil saying 400 million dollars in my head?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-67581277

[Nearly Sane]

COP a load of this!


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-67513901

[Nearly Sane]

Here come the mozzies!


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-67591422

[Aruntraveller]

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2023/dec/03/back-into-caves-cop28-president-dismisses-phase-out-of-fossil-fuels

Well, that is a surprise 

[Nearly Sane]

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2023/dec/03/back-into-caves-cop28-president-dismisses-phase-out-of-fossil-fuels

Well, that is a surprise 

Apparently it's all ok because...


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-67612929

[Nearly Sane]

For some reason the interview below popped up.on my Youtube suggestions. I'm now just to turn the heating up, switch on all the lights, and order the least fuel efficient car I can find.


https://youtu.be/bumKlEoGhvk?si=uz6w1ocOVy20Rohg

[Nearly Sane]

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[Nearly Sane]

Deal or no deal, does it really matter?


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-67679732

[Nearly Sane]

The drought in Catalonia


https://www.lemonde.fr/en/environment/article/2023/12/15/catalonia-prepares-for-major-water-restrictions-amidst-historic-drought_6348566_114.html

[Nearly Sane]

Some unimpressed takes on COP28

https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20231214-weak-tea-climate-scientists-push-back-against-cop28-cheer

[Nearly Sane]

The costs of bad wind planning


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-67494082

[Nearly Sane]

Phew! What a scorcher!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-67861954

[Nearly Sane]

Amazingly having a target without a plan is almost like not having a target.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-68133751

[Nearly Sane]

And more Scottish govt gaps in planning. It would be good to have the Greens in govt to make sure this didn't happen....

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-68133750

[Nearly Sane]

Case against Greta Thunberg thrown out


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-68180317

[Nearly Sane]

Turned out nice again...


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-68110310

[Sriram]

https://www.ndtv.com/science/gulf-stream-could-collapse-as-early-as-2025-mini-ice-age-on-the-way-study-5061782#pfrom=home-ndtv_trending

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Gulf Stream Could Collapse As Early As 2025, Mini Ice Age On The Way: Study

the Gulf Stream could collapse due to melting glaciers as soon as 2025, shutting down of vital ocean current.
The Gulf Stream, a powerful ocean current originating in the Gulf of Mexico, plays a pivotal role in regulating the climate of the North Atlantic region. Its warm waters act as a natural conveyor belt, transporting heat from the Equator towards the poles and influencing weather patterns along its path.

Without this additional heat, the average temperature could drop by several degrees in North America, parts of Asia and Europe - as much as 10 degrees Celsius in a few decades. This will have a "severe and cascading consequences around the world".

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So....is it now going to reduce global warming or is it not?!

[Nearly Sane]

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So....is it now going to reduce global warming or is it not?!

It's better to think of the phenomenon overall as 'climate change' as in the original title.you choose since localised changes like this not result in increased temperatures.

I don't have access to the report but from the article it reads as if the effect is taken in isolation so doesn't appear as if your question was one considered.

[Outrider]

https://www.ndtv.com/science/gulf-stream-could-collapse-as-early-as-2025-mini-ice-age-on-the-way-study-5061782#pfrom=home-ndtv_trending

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Gulf Stream Could Collapse As Early As 2025, Mini Ice Age On The Way: Study

the Gulf Stream could collapse due to melting glaciers as soon as 2025, shutting down of vital ocean current.
The Gulf Stream, a powerful ocean current originating in the Gulf of Mexico, plays a pivotal role in regulating the climate of the North Atlantic region. Its warm waters act as a natural conveyor belt, transporting heat from the Equator towards the poles and influencing weather patterns along its path.

Without this additional heat, the average temperature could drop by several degrees in North America, parts of Asia and Europe - as much as 10 degrees Celsius in a few decades. This will have a "severe and cascading consequences around the world".

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So....is it now going to reduce global warming or is it not?!

Neither, it's one of the results of global warming - the whole 'climate change' thing. If the Gulf Stream fails the UK and Western European climate will be massively altered. The Gulf Stream is the major climate factor that results in the UK, which is wholly north of lower 48 states of the US, not having the sort of cold weather during winter that places like New York, Minnesota and southern Canada get. Dutch, Belgian, and UK ports may find themselves icebound in the winter, our current crop timings and even selections may become non-viable. It's difficult to precisely estimate how significant it will be, in part because it's difficult to precisely gauge where the heat energy that's currently conducted by the Gulf Stream will go instead.

O.

[Sriram]

I understand the point about different places experiencing different climatic changes. No problem.

But they were talking of an increase in average global temperatures beyond 1.5 C....and now they are talking of a mini ice age.

[Nearly Sane]

I understand the point about different places experiencing different climatic changes. No problem.

But they were talking of an increase in average global temperatures beyond 1.5 C....and now they are talking of a mini ice age.

Localised. You are also looking at scientists as a monolith which is not the case.

[torridon]

I understand the point about different places experiencing different climatic changes. No problem.

But they were talking of an increase in average global temperatures beyond 1.5 C....and now they are talking of a mini ice age.

A local mini ice age.  Admittedly western Europe and Eastern USA is a pretty big area to call 'local' .  But the global averages are going to continue to rise while we here in the UK would freeze 

[Nearly Sane]

Bloody hell, zombie fires now!


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-68228943

[Nearly Sane]

Phew, what a scorcher!


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-68428348