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Re: Samuel Coleridge Taylor (And yes it is the right way round)
« Reply #1 on: August 15, 2018, 01:01:28 PM »
Interesting, and a little sad.

My first job was with the PRS.

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Re: Samuel Coleridge Taylor (And yes it is the right way round)
« Reply #2 on: August 15, 2018, 01:10:16 PM »
Interesting, and a little sad.

My first job was with the PRS.
Yes, it is sad. Weirdly I found out about him because so read a tweet from Floella Benjamin (who I don't follow) about the fact that she has been trying to get someone to make a film about him for ages, and has just had another rejection.

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Re: Samuel Coleridge Taylor (And yes it is the right way round)
« Reply #3 on: August 15, 2018, 01:15:39 PM »
But indeed someone I was unaware of till today.


Between the Wars, his Hiawatha was very popular - not surprising given that it was championed by Malcolm Sargent.

And Elgar thought highly of him as well.
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Re: Samuel Coleridge Taylor (And yes it is the right way round)
« Reply #4 on: August 15, 2018, 01:22:17 PM »
Between the Wars, his Hiawatha was very popular - not surprising given that it was championed by Malcolm Sargent.

And Elgar thought highly of him as well.
And yet I had managed to get a chunky percentage through my three score and ten with no clue to his existence, and I doubt I'm alone

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« Reply #5 on: August 15, 2018, 01:38:23 PM »
And yet I had managed to get a chunky percentage through my three score and ten with no clue to his existence, and I doubt I'm alone

That feels like a fashion thing. His work fell out of fashion?

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Re: Samuel Coleridge Taylor (And yes it is the right way round)
« Reply #6 on: August 15, 2018, 01:50:14 PM »
That feels like a fashion thing. His work fell out of fashion?
Assume so. Listening to his stuff, I can't see anything that might explain that but then I suppose fashion is inexplicable.

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Re: Samuel Coleridge Taylor (And yes it is the right way round)
« Reply #7 on: August 23, 2018, 04:04:31 PM »
Between the Wars, his Hiawatha was very popular - not surprising given that it was championed by Malcolm Sargent.

And Elgar thought highly of him as well.

Indeed, and I think it was down to Elgar that his career gained a much needed boost. Can't think of that many black classical composers over the centuries, apart from the French creole violin virtuoso and composer Chevalier Saint-Georges.
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Re: Samuel Coleridge Taylor (And yes it is the right way round)
« Reply #8 on: August 23, 2018, 04:09:17 PM »
Assume so. Listening to his stuff, I can't see anything that might explain that but then I suppose fashion is inexplicable.

The tenor aria from Hiawatha "Onaway, awake beloved" has always been popular with those classically trained, high-voiced males. Rightly so - it's a lovely thing. The whole work is worth more than a bit of curiosity value. More so than the Longfellow poem on which it is based, I'd say.
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Re: Samuel Coleridge Taylor (And yes it is the right way round)
« Reply #9 on: August 23, 2018, 06:25:25 PM »
I believe that Sargent's interwar performances of Hiawatha were given in a semi-staged format (rather like John Wilson's Broadway musicals at the Proms). This would probably make them more generally accessible than would conventional concert performances.

Incidentally, Longfellow is commemorated, with a bust, in Poet's Corner in Westminster Abbey. This seems rather strange since he was not British.  (Yes, T S Eliot is also in Poet's Corner - but he did become a British citizen and, indeed, very English.)
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