Pet bereavement

[Shaker]

Apparently you can  have your ashes put in a sky rocket, an idea I rather like.

Gene Roddenberry, who created Star Trek, had a portion of his ashes put into orbit; a few other individuals have done likewise (one of them being Timothy Leary), though the cost renders it all but prohibitive.

[Roses]

I was thinking of a firework, not an actual rocket.

[Shaker]

That's been done too. The end result is the same - the ashes are burnt up sooner or later.

[SteveH]

Returning to the subject of the thread, which is pet bereavement, cats have a habit, it seems, of disappearing when they know their time has come. Both the cats I've lived with, Punch, our family pet when I was a child, and Joe, our pet in the 80s and 90s, did that, so we never found out what happened to them. They both lived to a good age in cat terms.

[Roses]

Returning to the subject of the thread, which is pet bereavement, cats have a habit, it seems, of disappearing when they know their time has come. Both the cats I've lived with, Punch, our family pet when I was a child, and Joe, our pet in the 80s and 90s, did that, so we never found out what happened to them. They both lived to a good age in cat terms.

A number of our cats disappeared over the years, especially at our previous property. We assumed they had been shot by poachers, who were after pheasants bred for a shoot in the meadow next to our property. When the last one went I put my foot down and said , 'no more'.

[Rhiannon]

A number of our cats disappeared over the years, especially at our previous property. We assumed they had been shot by poachers, who were after pheasants bred for a shoot in the meadow next to our property. When the last one went I put my foot down and said , 'no more'.

Much more likely to have been the gamepkeeper. A cat can take a young pheasant.

[ekim]

I was cured of having pets at a very young age.  The cat we had used to hunt for mice in the neighbouring corn field and hobbled back home having had its front legs cut off by a harvester.  The vet came and drowned it in our bath to put it out of its misery.  At least we didn't have to eat it as we did the rabbits in the hutches.  Those were the days!

[Gordon]

I was cured of having pets at a very young age.  The cat we had used to hunt for mice in the neighbouring corn field and hobbled back home having had its front legs cut off by a harvester.  The vet came and drowned it in our bath to put it out of its misery.  At least we didn't have to eat it as we did the rabbits in the hutches.  Those were the days!

You were lucky to have had a bath! When our cats were being drowned the vet had to use a old paint can filled with rainwater.

(With apologies to Monty Python)

[Roses]

Much more likely to have been the gamepkeeper. A cat can take a young pheasant.

[Roses]

Much more likely to have been the gamepkeeper. A cat can take a young pheasant.

No it was probably poachers, who were a real pest, there was no game keeper.

[Roses]

I was cured of having pets at a very young age.  The cat we had used to hunt for mice in the neighbouring corn field and hobbled back home having had its front legs cut off by a harvester.  The vet came and drowned it in our bath to put it out of its misery.  At least we didn't have to eat it as we did the rabbits in the hutches.  Those were the days!

My father used to drown kittens in a bucket, until my mother put her foot down about it, and insisted he got a vet to do the job.

[ippy]

Much more likely to have been the gamepkeeper. A cat can take a young pheasant.

Were there there any Chinese restaurants nearby?

Regards ippy.

[SteveH]

Were there there any Chinese restaurants nearby?

Regards ippy.

Now, now - no political incorrectness, please. We leave that sort of thing to BoJo.

[Roses]

Were there there any Chinese restaurants nearby?

Regards ippy.

During the end stages of the war cats were eaten on my home island as the food supplies had run out. The Germans wanted to eat my Great Grandmother's cat, she was permitted to stay in the family home, which they were occupying, as she was Irish. She put the evil eye on them and the cat survived the war.

[Rhiannon]

There was an episode of New Tricks in which a serial killer murdered people with dog's liver stews.

Just saying.

[Roses]

There was an episode of New Tricks in which a serial killer murdered people with dog's liver stews.

Just saying.

Are dog's livers supposed to be poisonous? They eat dogs in China, I believe.

[Rhiannon]

Are dog's livers supposed to be poisonous? They eat dogs in China, I believe.

A high concentration of Vitamin A if I remember correctly. Over time if you ate too much of it you would die from Vitamin A toxicity.

[Roses]

A high concentration of Vitamin A if I remember correctly. Over time if you ate too much of it you would die from Vitamin A toxicity.

Riiiiiiiiiight, I will remove roast dog from my menu!

[ekim]

You were lucky to have had a bath! When our cats were being drowned the vet had to use a old paint can filled with rainwater.

(With apologies to Monty Python)

Ah well our cat was upper class.  The bath was one of those 3 foot long metal tubs which you can hang on the wall.  Nothing but the best for our cat.

[Rhiannon]

Riiiiiiiiiight, I will remove roast dog from my menu!

Don't snack on huskies either.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xavier_Mertz

[SteveH]

The following is what I think I remember reading, but I stand to be corrected by anyone who is an expert:

The general rule in nature is tha carnivores eat herbivores, not other carnivores. The flesh of carnivors is toxic, and, over time, harmful,causing various unpleasant neurological diseases, which are significantly commoner in Korea than elsewhere, because of their habit of eating dogs. As they say in Korea: "a dog isn't just for Christmas: if it's a big one, there'll be plenty left over for boxing day". [Edit] - however, I can't find anything about this on google, so it may be cobblers. There are variousclaimed health risks fro dog meat, such as rabies and various parasites, but none that are absolutely intrinsic to the nature of the meat.

[Shaker]

The following is what I think I remember reading, but I stand to be corrected by anyone who is an expert:

The general rule in nature is tha carnivores eat herbivores, not other carnivores.

It's a general rule, yes; not invariable (humans eat sheep, for instance) but it's notable that the herbivores - vegan animals, if you like - are some of the larger and stronger land mammals: cattle, for example, or horses in certain parts. (This is purely cultural; it's not a thing in the UK but it is in other countries). Cut out the middle (m)animal and go straight to the plants, is my advice 

[Sriram]

The following is what I think I remember reading, but I stand to be corrected by anyone who is an expert:

The general rule in nature is tha carnivores eat herbivores, not other carnivores. The flesh of carnivors is toxic, and, over time, harmful,causing various unpleasant neurological diseases, which are significantly commoner in Korea than elsewhere, because of their habit of eating dogs. As they say in Korea: "a dog isn't just for Christmas: if it's a big one, there'll be plenty left over for boxing day". [Edit] - however, I can't find anything about this on google, so it may be cobblers. There are variousclaimed health risks fro dog meat, such as rabies and various parasites, but none that are absolutely intrinsic to the nature of the meat.

Not sure about that. Lions have been known to eat Hyenas, cheetahs even leopards.  Hyenas eat anything they can get.

Even humans eat fish which eat fish...or....birds that eat fish or insects or small reptiles or worms.  Many animals and birds that humans eat regularly are omnivores.

[Harrowby Hall]

The following is what I think I remember reading, but I stand to be corrected by anyone who is an expert:

The general rule in nature is tha carnivores eat herbivores, not other carnivores. The flesh of carnivors is toxic, and, over time, harmful,causing various unpleasant neurological diseases, which are significantly commoner in Korea than elsewhere, because of their habit of eating dogs. As they say in Korea: "a dog isn't just for Christmas: if it's a big one, there'll be plenty left over for boxing day". [Edit] - however, I can't find anything about this on google, so it may be cobblers. There are variousclaimed health risks fro dog meat, such as rabies and various parasites, but none that are absolutely intrinsic to the nature of the meat.

Does this help, Steve?


http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.596.7570&rep=rep1&type=pdf

[Rhiannon]

From Wiki on Douglas Mawson:

It was unknown at the time that Husky liver contains extremely high levels of vitamin A. It was also not known that such levels of vitamin A could cause liver damage to humans.[9] With six dogs between them (with a liver on average weighing 1 kg), it is thought that the pair ingested enough liver to bring on a condition known as Hypervitaminosis A.

A quick google tells me that the Arctic diet is particularly high in Vitamin A for carnivores, therefore Husky liver is even more toxic.