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Walter

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Re: Trans rights: a perspective
« Reply #375 on: July 04, 2019, 12:58:24 PM »
Quote from: Nearly Sane on July 04, 2019, 09:50:52 AM
I know you will cherish it.
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I certainly will. In fact I've printed it off and put a hard copy in my wallet so I can look at it in times of doubt and poor reasoning .
Also I have fashioned a stretchy band from the elastic cut from a pair of ladies panties , coloured it green and put it round my wrist so I can enjoy the delicate pain when I snap it against my skin whilst I read the hard copy .

what joy , thanks once again  :)
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Re: Trans rights: a perspective
« Reply #376 on: July 04, 2019, 01:00:52 PM »
Quote from: Walter on July 04, 2019, 12:58:24 PM
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I certainly will. In fact I've printed it off and put a hard copy in my wallet so I can look at it in times of doubt and poor reasoning .
Also I have fashioned a stretchy band from the elastic cut from a pair of ladies panties , coloured it green and put it round my wrist so I can enjoy the delicate pain when I snap it against my skin whilst I read the hard copy .

what joy , thanks once again  :)
all is right with the world.
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Re: Trans rights: a perspective
« Reply #377 on: July 04, 2019, 02:01:56 PM »
Quote from: Nearly Sane on July 04, 2019, 01:00:52 PM
all is right with the world.

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Re: Trans rights: a perspective
« Reply #378 on: July 04, 2019, 07:19:21 PM »
Aw bless!  All is good with the world.

Thanks for your reply, Walter. My colleague doesn't look masculline, not very tall - not taller than me and I'm 5'7", slim. Voice not particularly deep. She looks a tomboyish sort of young woman, is actually older than she looks. She's nice, gave me lift home tonight as my car is having some work. (Nothing major I'm glad to say, took it in lunch time will collect in morning.)
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Walter

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Re: Trans rights: a perspective
« Reply #379 on: July 04, 2019, 08:20:21 PM »
Quote from: Robbie on July 04, 2019, 07:19:21 PM
Aw bless!  All is good with the world.

Thanks for your reply, Walter. My colleague doesn't look masculline, not very tall - not taller than me and I'm 5'7", slim. Voice not particularly deep. She looks a tomboyish sort of young woman, is actually older than she looks. She's nice, gave me lift home tonight as my car is having some work. (Nothing major I'm glad to say, took it in lunch time will collect in morning.)
Hi Robbie

the information about your car is obviously the most important part of your post. ;)

Oh and btw your 'friend' sounds less intimidating than on of mine.

One time when we'd had a few at the bar one of them spun round quickly on their bar stool , dress riding right up to reveal a pair of Jacobs hanging out of a pair of knickers
Not a pretty sight and one I wish I could forget however it seems to be etched into my brain .
Oh we did laugh ! (and so did half the pub)  :o
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Re: Trans rights: a perspective
« Reply #380 on: July 04, 2019, 10:57:17 PM »
Eeeeewwww. How can I erase that picture?
« Last Edit: July 04, 2019, 11:03:16 PM by Robbie »
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Re: Trans rights: a perspective
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Re: Trans rights: a perspective
« Reply #384 on: September 02, 2019, 06:04:21 PM »
Good summary of the gender critical position

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1168466705678516224.html
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Re: Trans rights: a perspective
« Reply #385 on: September 04, 2019, 07:16:26 AM »
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« Reply #386 on: September 04, 2019, 08:17:18 AM »
In general - three excellent articles.

For clarity - by "Madness" do you mean the decision taken or the extraneous conditions which have forced the American Red Cross into having to adopt this process?
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« Reply #387 on: September 04, 2019, 10:04:56 AM »
Quote from: Harrowby Hall on September 04, 2019, 08:17:18 AM
In general - three excellent articles.

For clarity - by "Madness" do you mean the decision taken or the extraneous conditions which have forced the American Red Cross into having to adopt this process?
The decision taken
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« Reply #388 on: October 08, 2019, 08:33:40 AM »
From being a confused observer a few years ago, I have to admit my allyship to feminism has been radicalized - this  explains a lot of the why. 

https://www.feministcurrent.com/2019/10/05/its-time-for-us-all-to-stand-up-against-big-sister/?fbclid=IwAR27Kqvc02ebltggABNmRnY9xEFYNdt6XykIfqAY0MefNTJ8QFKIECXIB8Q
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Re: Trans rights: a perspective
« Reply #389 on: October 08, 2019, 06:20:20 PM »
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Re: Trans rights: a perspective
« Reply #390 on: October 08, 2019, 07:44:38 PM »
Quote from: Nearly Sane on October 08, 2019, 08:33:40 AM
From being a confused observer a few years ago, I have to admit my allyship to feminism has been radicalized - this  explains a lot of the why. 

https://www.feministcurrent.com/2019/10/05/its-time-for-us-all-to-stand-up-against-big-sister/?fbclid=IwAR27Kqvc02ebltggABNmRnY9xEFYNdt6XykIfqAY0MefNTJ8QFKIECXIB8Q

Well written article.
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« Reply #391 on: October 08, 2019, 07:54:03 PM »
Especially this

"The Left has long since abandoned women to prostitution, pornography, and every last fetish that men can create for themselves. Meanwhile, the Right’s opposition to transgender ideology is soft at best, and comes wrapped in a bundle of misogyny." And that bit on the 'Right' includes their issues on reproductive rights.
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Re: Trans rights: a perspective
« Reply #392 on: October 15, 2019, 01:55:01 PM »
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« Reply #393 on: October 22, 2019, 06:29:51 PM »
And some good graphs on it.


http://boysvswomen.com/
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« Reply #396 on: October 25, 2019, 08:32:51 AM »
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Re: Trans rights: a perspective
« Reply #397 on: October 25, 2019, 09:01:59 AM »
Quote from: Anchorman on October 25, 2019, 08:32:51 AM
Er.....
https://babylonbee.com/news/categories/lifestyle
One of the difficulties of the debate is that there are those on the right wing who oppose trans people because they actually believe in the idea of gender but see it as a thing that is melded to sex - so that they think women, the sex, should be sugar and spice and all things pink, and see trans in any sense as transgressive of that. Those second wave feminists who see gender as a construct used to oppress women by the patriarchy are in general what we would describe as left wing and see the idea of transgender as accepting of the idea of woman being defined by pinkosity. That these two different approaches happen to end up in agreement that the mantra that Transwomen are Women is nonsense doesn't mean that they can be seen to be equivalent.

There is a lot of ludicrous stuff done in the name of trans but there is a lot of dangerous stuff to - such as the idea that self ID can allow anyone in the prison population to be a woman, and be in a women's prison.
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