Trans rights: a perspective

[Robbie]

Worrying and it has crept up on us.
Mermaids and whichever org did much the same before it, and similar others, have a lot to answer for. Parents too.

[jeremyp]

This is seriously fucked up.

There is no way a seven year old boy can be properly informed about the implications of transitioning (or not). This should be as illegal as having sex with a seven year old.

[Walter]

This is seriously fucked up.

There is no way a seven year old boy can be properly informed about the implications of transitioning (or not). This should be as illegal as having sex with a seven year old.

on a list of things requiring consideration , this subject is at the bottom ,along with watching paint dry and electric cars

[SteveH]

This is seriously fucked up.

There is no way a seven year old boy can be properly informed about the implications of transitioning (or not). This should be as illegal as having sex with a seven year old.

I agree, but it isn't that serious. They can't have a sex-change op or hormone treatment until they're 18. In general, I think this whole identity thing is just getting silly.

[jeremyp]

I agree, but it isn't that serious. They can't have a sex-change op or hormone treatment until they're 18.

I was referring to NS's posting about a seven yer old boy in Texas. His father has lost a legal battle to stop him from being given hormone treatment to gender transition him now. Here is the post I am referring to:

Treating a boy who likes Frozen medically is ridiculous. This is a tragedy.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/texas-father-blocked-from-stopping-gender-transition-of-son-james-7-to-girl-called-luna

In general, I think this whole identity thing is just getting silly.

It would be silly if peoples' lives weren't being destroyed.

[Nearly Sane]

I agree, but it isn't that serious. They can't have a sex-change op or hormone treatment until they're 18. In general, I think this whole identity thing is just getting silly.

Lots of kids are being put on puberty blockers from young ages. And then there is the damage done by binding as covered in the detrans article. And parents getting hormones privately, or taking their kids elsewhere to get operations.


And that's not covering the removal of women's sex based rights with Self ID where make rapists can claim to be female and get moved to women's prisons.

Or where funding for rape crisis centre is removed because they won't allow men self IDing as women to be in the centre.

Or women losing in sports to men self ID ing as women.


 

[Robbie]

Agreed. There are parents in this country who have taken prepubescent children abroad to have puberty blockers. What's with them, do they think they're 'cool' or something? They're not.

Children change their minds.

[Nearly Sane]

Agreed. There are parents in this country who have taken prepubescent children abroad to have puberty blockers. What's with them, do they think they're 'cool' or something? They're not.

Children change their minds.

Puberty blockers are prescribed here already.

[Walter]

Puberty blockers are prescribed here already.

today I self ID as a 27 year old chap .
I've already got the beta blockers , just need some OAP blockers now 😆

[SteveH]

Agreed. There are parents in this country who have taken prepubescent children abroad to have puberty blockers. What's with them, do they think they're 'cool' or something? They're not.

Children change their minds.

I suspect that some of these parents are suffering from Munchausen's syndrome by proxy, which is a very dangerous condition, not so much to the sufferer as to the object of their transferred hypochondria.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Factitious_disorder_imposed_on_another

[jeremyp]

Puberty blockers are prescribed here already.

IMO they should be proscribed, unless there is a legitimate medical reason much like any other procedure that irreversibly mutilates the child's body should be. I'm actually quite shocked you can administer them to your seven year old son who wants to be a girl but has no real understanding of everything that implies.

[Robbie]

Puberty blockers are prescribed here already.

I didn't know that. Worse than ever.

IMO they should be proscribed, unless there is a legitimate medical reason much like any other procedure that irreversibly mutilates the child's body should be. I'm actually quite shocked you can administer them to your seven year old son who wants to be a girl but has no real understanding of everything that implies.

I agree.

[Nearly Sane]

I should note that I was sent the link on the detrans issue by a friend in the US who is involved in the medical industry but asked me not to name them if I put it on social media because they are scared of the repercussions of being seen to be gender critical.

[Nearly Sane]

This is good on the LGB Alliance


https://quillette.com/2019/11/04/meet-the-gay-activists-whove-had-enough-of-britains-ultra-woke-homophobes/

[ad_orientem]

Always is removing the female symbol from its products because, apparantly, not everyone who has a period is a woman. You couldn't make this shit up!

[jeremyp]

Always is removing the female symbol from its products because, apparantly, not everyone who has a period is a woman. You couldn't make this shit up!

Linky:

https://edition.cnn.com/2019/10/22/health/always-period-gender-symbol-removed-transgender-nonbinary-trnd/index.html

The story contains this gem:

Getting periods can be a dysphoric experience for transgender and nonbinary people, especially because of the way that periods are generally discussed and addressed as something that only happens to people who are assigned women at birth.

If,as I assume, "assigned woman at birth" means biologically female, then periods do only happen to people who are assigned women at birth.

[Nearly Sane]

Good

https://morningstaronline.co.uk/article/labour-activists-launch-declaration-women%E2%80%99s-sex-based-rights#.Xcnazpu5Rpo.twitter

[Nearly Sane]

Linky:

https://edition.cnn.com/2019/10/22/health/always-period-gender-symbol-removed-transgender-nonbinary-trnd/index.html

The story contains this gem:

If,as I assume, "assigned woman at birth" means biologically female, then periods do only happen to people who are assigned women at birth.

Assigned women at birth is a nonsense. It's observed. The use of assigned is the idea that gender trumps sex and is real  as opposed to sex being a myth.

[Nearly Sane]

Of course


https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2015/03/07/living/feat-planet-fitness-transgender-member/index.html?__twitter_impression=true

[Harrowby Hall]

As ever, when I read American accounts of the use of toilets, I wonder how people can bathe satisfactorily in a water closet.

[ad_orientem]

LOL!

[Nearly Sane]

Girls safe spaces removed



https://www.dailyherald.com/amp-article/20191114/news/191119456/?__twitter_impression=true

[Harrowby Hall]

Girls safe spaces removed



https://www.dailyherald.com/amp-article/20191114/news/191119456/?__twitter_impression=true

Hmm, "locker room".    What is it about urination and defecation that makes Americans run for the Encyclopaedia of Inappropriate Euphemism?

[Nearly Sane]

Hmm, "locker room".    What is it about urination and defecation that makes Americans run for the Encyclopaedia of Inappropriate Euphemism?

In this case it"s a changing room for sports.

[jeremyp]

Hmm, "locker room".    What is it about urination and defecation that makes Americans run for the Encyclopaedia of Inappropriate Euphemism?

It's a room with lockers in it. i.e. it's a changing room for sports.

What you're thinking of is rest rooms.

ETA: I don't know why NS's post passed me by.