Author Topic: Trans rights: a perspective (Read 132643 times)

Nearly Sane · « **Reply #850 on:** December 02, 2020, 02:57:15 PM »

And a thread from Malcolm Clark on puberty blockers

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1334132885138370561.html

Robbie · « **Reply #851 on:** December 03, 2020, 12:05:17 AM »

That's a good article and frightening. Mermaids is a charity that persuades parents to allow their children to have the whole works where possible which is so dangerous. Keira is not the only person who has regretted having puberty blockers, male hormones and mastectomies. When is this trend going to change and what can we do about it?

Nearly Sane · « **Reply #852 on:** December 03, 2020, 09:23:44 AM »

Excellent piece on Keira Bell and Elliot Page

https://sisteroutrider.wordpress.com/2020/12/02/on-the-same-page/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

Nearly Sane · « **Reply #853 on:** December 03, 2020, 01:34:03 PM »

And a piece by Suzanne Moore on the Keira Bell case

https://suzannemoore.substack.com/p/what-does-the-keira-bell-case-tell/comments

Nearly Sane · « **Reply #854 on:** December 11, 2020, 11:21:30 AM »

Good balanced leader from the Economist

https://amp.economist.com/leaders/2020/12/12/other-countries-should-learn-from-a-transgender-verdict-in-england?__twitter_impression=true

Nearly Sane · « **Reply #855 on:** December 13, 2020, 09:48:17 AM »

Good article on the goings on around The Forensic Medical Services (Victims of Sexual Offences) Bill in Holyrood this week.

https://www.holyrood.com/editors-column/view,six-little-words-for-the-word-gender-substitute-sex

Nearly Sane · « **Reply #856 on:** December 16, 2020, 02:25:22 PM »

Good to see

https://nypost.com/2020/12/11/tulsi-gabbard-introduces-protect-womens-sports-act/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

jeremyp · « **Reply #857 on:** December 17, 2020, 12:01:55 PM »

Quote from: Nearly Sane on December 16, 2020, 02:25:22 PM

Good to see

https://nypost.com/2020/12/11/tulsi-gabbard-introduces-protect-womens-sports-act/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

I hope Tulsi Gabbard doesn't pay any attention to Twitter.

Nearly Sane · « **Reply #858 on:** December 18, 2020, 01:39:41 PM »

Oh ffs!

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jessedamiani/2019/10/29/new-research-reveals-facial-recognition-software-misclassifies-transgender-non-binary-people/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

Nearly Sane · « **Reply #859 on:** December 18, 2020, 02:44:13 PM »

Andy Wightman, one of the better MSPs, resigns from the Scottish Green Party over their position on women's rights

https://andywightman.scot/resignation-from-the-scottish-green-party

Nearly Sane · « **Reply #860 on:** December 20, 2020, 11:20:04 AM »

Alex Massie on Wightman's resignation

https://archive.is/Ubeho

Nearly Sane · « **Reply #861 on:** December 20, 2020, 10:51:58 PM »

Sorry, Eddie, you are not a lesbian

https://news.avclub.com/eddie-izzard-uses-only-she-her-pronouns-now-i-just-wa-1845923664

ekim · « **Reply #862 on:** December 21, 2020, 09:47:06 AM »

No, he's just a thespian.

jeremyp · « **Reply #863 on:** December 21, 2020, 09:56:19 AM »

Quote from: Nearly Sane on December 18, 2020, 01:39:41 PM

Oh ffs!

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jessedamiani/2019/10/29/new-research-reveals-facial-recognition-software-misclassifies-transgender-non-binary-people/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

Why are they remotely surprised? If you're going on facial features, of course it's going to classify people according to biology.

Nearly Sane · « **Reply #864 on:** December 21, 2020, 10:00:08 AM »

Quote from: jeremyp on December 21, 2020, 09:56:19 AM

Why are they remotely surprised? If you're going on facial features, of course it's going to classify people according to biology.

No idea, and if what would be the test for nonbinary?

jeremyp · « **Reply #865 on:** December 21, 2020, 10:10:24 AM »

Quote from: Nearly Sane on December 21, 2020, 10:00:08 AM

No idea, and if what would be the test for nonbinary?

I don't know. I'd be interested to see how they train this thing to recognise trans genders. I can't help thinking it will come down to "this is a man wearing makeup" or some other stereotypical nonsense.

In fact, I want to ask what does it mean to live as a woman? I can't think of an answer to that that doesn't reduce to the level of "wear a dress".

Nearly Sane · « **Reply #866 on:** December 23, 2020, 02:19:15 PM »

Excellent article by James Kirkup on a dreadful BBC article

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/the-bbc-should-be-ashamed-of-its-reporting-on-trans-teenagers/amp?__twitter_impression=true

Nearly Sane · « **Reply #867 on:** December 23, 2020, 02:51:31 PM »

And a twitter thread from a woman who set up an online space for women and initially allowed transwomen, and why they changed that policy

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1339464360712830976.html

Nearly Sane · « **Reply #868 on:** December 23, 2020, 03:01:10 PM »

Quote from: Robbie on December 03, 2020, 12:05:17 AM

That's a good article and frightening. Mermaids is a charity that persuades parents to allow their children to have the whole works where possible which is so dangerous. Keira is not the only person who has regretted having puberty blockers, male hormones and mastectomies. When is this trend going to change and what can we do about it?

Talk to people. Tell them what is happening

Nearly Sane · « **Reply #869 on:** December 31, 2020, 12:09:59 PM »

Great thread from Dr Kathleen Stock on the silencing of women in academia on the subject of gender.

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1344525004973682689.html

Nearly Sane · « **Reply #870 on:** December 31, 2020, 04:02:38 PM »

Piece on the transwoman elected Co-Chair of Green Party Women

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1344573750591844352.html

Owlswing · « **Reply #871 on:** January 01, 2021, 07:45:29 AM »

Quote from: Nearly Sane on December 31, 2020, 04:02:38 PM

A piece on the transwoman elected Co-Chair of Green Party Women

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1344573750591844352.html

Why are such operations and operators allowed to continue unchecked?

Adults should be able to access such treatments but children?

Owlswing

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jeremyp · « **Reply #872 on:** January 01, 2021, 05:21:08 PM »

Quote from: Owlswing on January 01, 2021, 07:45:29 AM

Why are such operations and operators allowed to continue unchecked?

Adults should be able to access such treatments but children?

Well there's no point in prescribing puberty blockers to adults.

On a serious note: I really can't believe that prescribing puberty blockers to children is legal. I also don't believe that any person who has not gone through puberty can have any idea of what it really means to be male or female and therefore cannot be competent to make such life altering decisions. I think it's barbaric to administer puberty blockers to otherwise healthy children.

Nearly Sane · « **Reply #873 on:** January 04, 2021, 09:39:36 AM »

Just ffs!

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/congress-prayer-cleaver-amen-awoman-b1781843.html

jeremyp · « **Reply #874 on:** January 04, 2021, 10:49:25 AM »

Quote from: Nearly Sane on January 04, 2021, 09:39:36 AM

Just ffs!

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/congress-prayer-cleaver-amen-awoman-b1781843.html

That's Scunthorpe levels of stupidity.

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Author Topic: Trans rights: a perspective (Read 132643 times)