Trans rights: a perspective

[Christine]

Hi JeremyP,

Thank you. I thought my previous emails might have indicated to Kim that I was beyond being gaslit by Stonewall, but obviously not 

[Nearly Sane]

Mother of swimmer who swam against Lia Thomas speaks




https://youtu.be/Cd3Ltk30qv8

[Aruntraveller]

Christine,

Can I just add my congratulations on that letter to your MP.

I am, now, shamelessly going to rework some of it for a letter of my own. (Hope that's OK!)

[Christine]

Hi Trent,

Please, help yourself. I’m happy to contribute any way I can.

Best of luck 🙂

[Nearly Sane]

This is a devastating article from Susan Dalgety.

https://archive.ph/8JB0l

[Gordon]

This is a devastating article from Susan Dalgety.

https://archive.ph/8JB0l

It certainly is.

[Nearly Sane]

Great thread on Scot Gov's reform of the GRA


https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1501223986038034439.html

[Nearly Sane]

On International Women's Day worth putting up these quote from some men who say they are women, note these men are lauded and famous amongst those who deny biology.

[Nearly Sane]

Rowling's Razor


https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/JK-Rowling-trans

[Nearly Sane]

Congratulations Emma Weyant #PennCheats


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10626265/Uni-Virginia-swimmer-hailed-heroine-coming-second-NCAA-final-trans-rival-Lia-Thomas.html

[Nearly Sane]

Great article by Elaine Miller


https://thecritic.co.uk/women-wont-wheesht/

[Nearly Sane]

Dangerous feckin' madness


https://archive.vn/J3BSj

[Nearly Sane]

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[Nearly Sane]

More idiocy on the Scottish census


https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/41d86836-a79d-11ec-a0e9-23fd932feb90?shareToken=c22cb2538f54d7889631b0527a707b3e

[jeremyp]

More idiocy on the Scottish census


https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/41d86836-a79d-11ec-a0e9-23fd932feb90?shareToken=c22cb2538f54d7889631b0527a707b3e

I'd thought it would be of use to record both sex and gender. Sex is important for things like healthcare and it would be useful to have data on gender for research purposes. How many people actually are - or claim to be - transgender etc.

[Nearly Sane]

Excellent from Joan Smith

https://thecritic.co.uk/labour-is-failing-women/

[jeremyp]

Excellent from Joan Smith

https://thecritic.co.uk/labour-is-failing-women/

Unfortunately, I have to disagree with the following

In the real world, it is astonishing that someone who holds such views was ever considered suitable to represent women’s interests on the front bench

It doesn't astonish me at all.

[Nearly Sane]

Very disappointing

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10642895/Bidens-Supreme-Court-nominee-Ketanji-Brown-Jackson-refuses-define-word-woman.html

[jeremyp]

Very disappointing

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10642895/Bidens-Supreme-Court-nominee-Ketanji-Brown-Jackson-refuses-define-word-woman.html

I think it's more important to get her confirmed than to worry about where she stands on trans rights.

The Daily Telegraph has an interesting story:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/cycling/2022/03/22/exclusive-commonwealth-games-2022-allow-trans-women-cyclists/

You might think that is bad news, but we really need more examples of trans women dominance in sports in order to expose the stupidity of it.

[Nearly Sane]

I think it's more important to get her confirmed than to worry about where she stands on trans rights.

Doesn't stop it being very disappointing. It also shows that there could be real problems with her approach in certain cases.

The Daily Telegraph has an interesting story:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/cycling/2022/03/22/exclusive-commonwealth-games-2022-allow-trans-women-cyclists/

You might think that is bad news, but we really need more examples of trans women dominance in sports in order to expose the stupidity of it.

I think I noted during the farce of Laurel Hubbard at the Olympics that it was odd that gender crititical feminists felt themselves hoping Hubbard did well while TRAs were a bit worried that he would do well.

[jeremyp]

Doesn't stop it being very disappointing. It also shows that there could be real problems with her approach in certain cases.

Everybody has prejudices and judges are supposed to put them aside whilst judging cases. That is presumably why there are nine Supreme Court justices and not just one.

I think I noted during the farce of Laurel Hubbard at the Olympics that it was odd that gender crititical feminists felt themselves hoping Hubbard did well while TRAs were a bit worried that he would do well.

I think Lia Thomas's times started out being dramatically better than her competitors. She still wins now but not necessarily by a large margin. I think she is holding back because the stupidity would otherwise be too blatant to ignore.

[Nearly Sane]

Everybody has prejudices and judges are supposed to put them aside whilst judging cases. That is presumably why there are nine Supreme Court justices and not just one.

There is also a reading of her comment that would not be disappointing - that the definition that she would accept is the biological one, and this would therefore mean that she disagrees with the 'transwomen are women' mantra.

[Outrider]

Very disappointing

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10642895/Bidens-Supreme-Court-nominee-Ketanji-Brown-Jackson-refuses-define-word-woman.html

Not really. In a world where the notion of what constitutes 'a woman' is an issue of contention, and particular where any opinion offered is likely to be stripped of nuance and used by one side or another to beat a partisan drum, it shows the sort of considered response that makes a Supreme Court Justice.

She's deferring to the appropriate expertise to come up with definitions, and she'll then (presumably) look at the phrasing of any relevant laws and precedents to see how those two interact. She is being questioned about her ability to interpret the law, and the tradition - particularly in American law - has been for the judiciary to keep as tightly within their bounds as they can, to not be drawn into controversial topics if they can avoid it.

O.

[Aruntraveller]

Like Outrider, I got the impression that she was being very considered in her approach and extremely careful with her words.

[Aruntraveller]

This article gives a little more insight into what was going on with the confirmation hearing:

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/mar/24/ketanji-brown-jacksons-confirmation-hearing-is-a-disgrace-to-her-qualifications