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Re: Trans rights: a perspective
« Reply #1675 on: January 28, 2023, 11:36:39 AM »
Great article by Janice Turner on the disgraceful guddle politicians have made over women's prisons.


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« Reply #1676 on: January 28, 2023, 12:04:06 PM »
Great article by Janice Turner on the disgraceful guddle politicians have made over women's prisons.


https://archive.vn/Ag9GB

And illustration of the wider guddle

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-64430756

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Re: Trans rights: a perspective
« Reply #1677 on: January 29, 2023, 04:00:17 PM »

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« Reply #1678 on: January 29, 2023, 05:20:38 PM »
Better late than never but it's very late


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-64444530

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Re: Trans rights: a perspective
« Reply #1679 on: January 29, 2023, 06:13:30 PM »
Men who say they are women exist. They aren't women unless you reify the stereotypes. Some msy be delusional, some maybe lying for fetishistic reasons, sone may be predators. What is a trans person? What is 'being trans'?

Are you trying to deny that trans women as a class exists? Note: saying they exist is not the same as saying they are women. These people (excluding those who are less than sincere) really think they were born in the wrong body. The only issue is how far we should go to accommodating their needs and desires.
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Re: Trans rights: a perspective
« Reply #1680 on: January 29, 2023, 06:28:22 PM »
Are you trying to deny that trans women as a class exists? Note: saying they exist is not the same as saying they are women. These people (excluding those who are less than sincere) really think they were born in the wrong body. The only issue is how far we should go to accommodating their needs and desires.
I think people who think they are Napoleon exist. I think they need treated for mental health issues.

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Re: Trans rights: a perspective
« Reply #1681 on: January 29, 2023, 07:10:31 PM »
A response from Murray Blackburn MacKenzie to the statement from the Justice Secretary


https://murrayblackburnmackenzie.org/2023/01/29/mbm-response-to-the-justice-secretary-statement-on-protecting-prisoners/
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Re: Trans rights: a perspective
« Reply #1682 on: January 29, 2023, 07:41:05 PM »
I think people who think they are Napoleon exist. I think they need treated for mental health issues.
How do you define the difference between a mental health issue and not a mental health issue? Given you have a mental issue, what is the best way to treat it? If somebody tells you they were born into the wrong body, how do you know they are wrong? Have you got any idea what it that feels like? I certainly don't.
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Re: Trans rights: a perspective
« Reply #1683 on: January 29, 2023, 07:44:26 PM »
How do you define the difference between a mental health issue and not a mental health issue? Given you have a mental issue, what is the best way to treat it? If somebody tells you they were born into the wrong body, how do you know they are wrong? Have you got any idea what it that feels like? I certainly don't.
  Do you have any idea how someone who says they are Napoleon feels? How do you know they are wrong?


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Re: Trans rights: a perspective
« Reply #1685 on: January 31, 2023, 11:28:42 AM »

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Re: Trans rights: a perspective
« Reply #1686 on: February 02, 2023, 04:29:33 PM »
Sturgeon can't tell if  Adam Graham is a women because she has insufficient information, and yet has voted for a bill that removes any need for information.

https://www.holyrood.com/news/view,nicola-sturgeon-refuses-whether-isla-bryson-man
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Re: Trans rights: a perspective
« Reply #1687 on: February 04, 2023, 10:04:23 PM »
Good sense on student's groups being able to be single sex where appropriate. Sad that Bristol Student's Union fell for Stonewall's misrepresentation of the Equality Act - though they are far from unique in doing so.


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Re: Trans rights: a perspective
« Reply #1688 on: February 07, 2023, 03:22:28 PM »

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Re: Trans rights: a perspective
« Reply #1689 on: February 08, 2023, 10:37:02 AM »

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Re: Trans rights: a perspective
« Reply #1690 on: February 08, 2023, 11:22:02 AM »
The BBC changing gay history to promote the trans agenda. The claim in the following piece is that Marsha P. Johnson (Malcolm Michaels Jr) was a trans activist at the time of Stonewall:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/bitesize/articles/zmchkmn

This is from the above article, note there is no qualification applied to the identification of Marsha as transgender.

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Marsha was a transgender activist and also a central figure in the Stonewall riots of 1969, where members of the LGBT community rose up in protest against police raids on the bar of the same name in Christopher Street, New York.

Whereas a quick search of the internet will provide any number of sources that quote Johnson's own words where he always identifies as a man. A drag queen, but still a man.

He described himself as a transvestite and defined it as follows:

 "A transvestite is still like a boy, very manly looking, a feminine boy."

Johnson never identified as transgender, although that term wasn't in general use at the time, all his words indicate that he still considered himself a man.

So why does the BBC consider it ok to promote what is a lie?
Before we work on Artificial Intelligence shouldn't we address the problem of natural stupidity.

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Re: Trans rights: a perspective
« Reply #1691 on: February 08, 2023, 11:26:35 AM »
The BBC changing gay history to promote the trans agenda. The claim in the following piece is that Marsha P. Johnson (Malcolm Michaels Jr) was a trans activist at the time of Stonewall:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/bitesize/articles/zmchkmn

This is from the above article, note there is no qualification applied to the identification of Marsha as transgender.

Whereas a quick search of the internet will provide any number of sources that quote Johnson's own words where he always identifies as a man. A drag queen, but still a man.

He described himself as a transvestite and defined it as follows:

 "A transvestite is still like a boy, very manly looking, a feminine boy."

Johnson never identified as transgender, although that term wasn't in general use at the time, all his words indicate that he still considered himself a man.

So why does the BBC consider it ok to promote what is a lie?
And didn't arrive at the riot till it was nearly over.

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Re: Trans rights: a perspective
« Reply #1692 on: February 08, 2023, 11:28:37 AM »
And didn't arrive at the riot till it was nearly over.

Indeed, although he was always completely open about that fact.
Before we work on Artificial Intelligence shouldn't we address the problem of natural stupidity.

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Re: Trans rights: a perspective
« Reply #1693 on: February 08, 2023, 01:05:47 PM »
Article on the event my wife and I attended in support on Sunday


https://grousebeater.wordpress.com/2023/02/08/standing-for-women-rally/

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Re: Trans rights: a perspective
« Reply #1694 on: February 10, 2023, 11:04:07 AM »
When you believe, or possibly pretend to believe, in absurdities you will struggle to make sense.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-64590421

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Re: Trans rights: a perspective
« Reply #1695 on: February 10, 2023, 04:24:51 PM »
The circumstances of the recent Scottish case of the rapist who has subsequently, and seemingly conveniently, adopted a trans identity after being charged confirms that conflating biological sex with 'gender' hasn't survived this encounter with reality.

That the likes of Nicola Sturgeon finds herself dancing around the issue, by referring to him as a 'rapist' rather than acknowledge that this guy is a biological male, is utterly farcical: at some point she, and others who are also evading the obvious, will surely run out of corners to paint themselves into.
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Re: Trans rights: a perspective
« Reply #1696 on: February 10, 2023, 10:31:11 PM »
Long and devastating read from someone who worked in the trans 'health' care process in the US, initially being highly supportive of it.


https://www.thefp.com/p/i-thought-i-was-saving-trans-kids
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Re: Trans rights: a perspective
« Reply #1697 on: February 12, 2023, 09:50:14 AM »
Article on Hannah Barnes's book on the Tavistock gender clinic issues.


https://archive.is/Ax1zR

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Re: Trans rights: a perspective
« Reply #1698 on: February 19, 2023, 09:09:40 PM »
Interview where Angela Rayner is incoherent and illogical as regards the Adam Graham case


https://archive.vn/Q1DGL

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Re: Trans rights: a perspective
« Reply #1699 on: February 22, 2023, 02:50:58 PM »
Interesting choice of quote to headline.



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