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Re: Trans rights: a perspective
« Reply #1850 on: June 02, 2023, 01:10:48 PM »
Well, they can fuck right off. I don't believe in their religion.

Note, I will generally refer to anyone by whatever name they choose, though there are issues with sex offenders using it as a loophole, but I don't 'misgender' people because I don't believe in reifying regressive patriarchal stereotypes.


https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/oxford-college-toexpel-students-misgender-trans-peers/
Some interesting scenarios here in the comments on the topic of 'misgendering / correct sexing'

https://www.legalfeminist.org.uk/2021/07/05/is-misgendering-always-harassment/
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« Reply #1854 on: June 06, 2023, 04:43:28 PM »
Who have now posted the below. No apology for their racism.

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« Reply #1856 on: June 07, 2023, 08:54:41 AM »
An interesting article in the Spectator (not my usual hunting ground) about Gay Pride or rather Pride as it has been rebranded now.

It articulates many of the things I feel about Pride and links to the ongoing takeover of LGB by T.

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/how-pride-lost-itself/

I won't be attending any pride events this year as I feel it really doesn't reflect how I feel as a gay man. Which is sad.

Still I am old, and nobody loves a fairy over 40  ;)
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« Reply #1857 on: June 07, 2023, 12:04:37 PM »
Scottish Labour can fuck off


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« Reply #1858 on: June 07, 2023, 12:22:04 PM »
An interesting article in the Spectator (not my usual hunting ground) about Gay Pride or rather Pride as it has been rebranded now.

It articulates many of the things I feel about Pride and links to the ongoing takeover of LGB by T.

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/how-pride-lost-itself/

I won't be attending any pride events this year as I feel it really doesn't reflect how I feel as a gay man. Which is sad.

Still I am old, and nobody loves a fairy over 40  ;)

I was thinking about this the other day. You never hear about gay rights anymore. Not only have the TRA's muscled in on the rights of women, but they also seem to have erased all the issues surrounding the LGB part of LGBT.
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« Reply #1859 on: June 07, 2023, 12:53:02 PM »
I was thinking about this the other day. You never hear about gay rights anymore. Not only have the TRA's muscled in on the rights of women, but they also seem to have erased all the issues surrounding the LGB part of LGBT.
There is an argument that after the legalising of gay marriage there was not much for an organisation like Stonewall to do which would have meant a reduction in grants. The T which was effectively added in 2014 allowed it access to continuing cash. I'm not sure it was a simple calculation like that but it's definitely been a factor.

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« Reply #1860 on: June 07, 2023, 01:00:10 PM »
There is an argument that after the legalising of gay marriage there was not much for an organisation like Stonewall to do which would have meant a reduction in grants. The T which was effectively added in 2014 allowed it access to continuing cash. I'm not sure it was a simple calculation like that but it's definitely been a factor.

I've heard that argument before. Stonewall basically achieved what it set out to do so instead of winding itself up, it refocused on a new tangentially related issue. It does seem persuasive.
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« Reply #1861 on: June 07, 2023, 01:05:29 PM »
An interesting article in the Spectator (not my usual hunting ground) about Gay Pride or rather Pride as it has been rebranded now.

It articulates many of the things I feel about Pride and links to the ongoing takeover of LGB by T.

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/how-pride-lost-itself/

I won't be attending any pride events this year as I feel it really doesn't reflect how I feel as a gay man. Which is sad.

Still I am old, and nobody loves a fairy over 40  ;)
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« Reply #1862 on: June 07, 2023, 01:10:58 PM »
I've heard that argument before. Stonewall basically achieved what it set out to do so instead of winding itself up, it refocused on a new tangentially related issue. It does seem persuasive.
I think there was still a reason for Stonewall continuing though at a reduced level. So they could have been lobbying the govt to think about how to respond to the new laws in Uganda. Something which seems much more important to their mission than touting puberty blockers, but you hardly see mentioned.


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« Reply #1863 on: June 07, 2023, 01:20:09 PM »
I think there was still a reason for Stonewall continuing though at a reduced level. So they could have bern lobbying the govt to think abput how to respond to the new laws in Uganda. Something which seems much more important to their mission than touting puberty blockers, but you hardly see mentioned.

But as you say: that woulds mean less money.
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« Reply #1864 on: June 07, 2023, 01:43:59 PM »
Couple of other articles on Pride, also from fairies over 40, both of whom I know, and one for over 40 years (allegedly)

https://unherd.com/2023/06/pride-is-no-place-for-homosexuals/


https://www.spiked-online.com/2023/06/07/the-fall-of-pride-cant-come-soon-enough/
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« Reply #1866 on: June 08, 2023, 11:59:39 AM »
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« Reply #1867 on: June 08, 2023, 12:39:04 PM »
In what way is Nikki Hiltz cheating?
Yep, apologies, my annoyance at the idiocy got the better of me. She isn't cheating.

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« Reply #1868 on: June 08, 2023, 02:55:37 PM »
Stephen Daisley is far from my cup of tea. But he's right hear, and Scottish Labour are a bunch of pricks



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« Reply #1869 on: June 08, 2023, 04:55:11 PM »
And Joan Smith on Labour's idiocy over Pauline McNeil


https://unherd.com/thepost/labour-msp-silenced-for-the-duration-of-pride-month/
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« Reply #1870 on: June 10, 2023, 11:08:30 AM »
Man threatens to kill a woman, is arrested, and it is reported as a women's crime.


https://www.theargus.co.uk/news/23580324.portslade-arrest-online-threats-kill-anti-trans-campaigner/
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« Reply #1871 on: June 12, 2023, 01:33:48 PM »
Johns Hopkins and the non men

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« Reply #1872 on: June 12, 2023, 05:29:57 PM »
Petition to clarify the definition of "sex" in the Equality Act 2010 - currently being debated in Parliament - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-9MsJo6-Uo

There is another petition opposing the position that "sex" in the Equality Act 2010 means biological sex.
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« Reply #1873 on: June 12, 2023, 05:33:06 PM »
Petition to clarify the definition of "sex" in the Equality Act 2010 - currently being debated in Parliament - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-9MsJo6-Uo

There is another petition opposing the position that "sex" in the Equality Act 2010 means biological sex.
Worth noting that while it is a debate in Parliament, it's in Westminster Hall, not the HoC.

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Re: Trans rights: a perspective
« Reply #1874 on: June 12, 2023, 07:01:04 PM »
Johns Hopkins and the non men

Instead of changing the definition of Lesbian, why don't they just change the definition of "non-binary".

"Confused" or "deluded" should cover it.

Anyway, when they say "non man" - are they talking about a teapot or possibly a crocodile?

Such sloppy use of the English language is very annoying.
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