Trans rights: a perspective

[jeremyp]

Alex Massie on the Scarlet Blake case


https://archive.vn/4nllY

I don't really understand the kerfuffle. It's just a pronoun. Do people really think that describing Blake as a woman means their crimes reflect badly on all women?

As long as we are sensible about the consequences i.e. that the crime is recorded as having been committed by a male identifying as a woman and that Blake will serve his* sentence in a men's prison (as the Ministry of Justice has already stated), I think we should move on.

* now that Blake is a convicted murderer and cat killer, we can dispense with the courtesy of pretending he is a woman.

[Nearly Sane]

I don't really understand the kerfuffle. It's just a pronoun. Do people really think that describing Blake as a woman means their crimes reflect badly on all women?

As long as we are sensible about the consequences i.e. that the crime is recorded as having been committed by a male identifying as a woman and that Blake will serve his* sentence in a men's prison (as the Ministry of Justice has already stated), I think we should move on.

* now that Blake is a convicted murderer and cat killer, we can dispense with the courtesy of pretending he is a woman.

I think you'll find it's a noun - woman rather than a pronoun. It is about Blake bring referred to as a woman, the crime being recorded as a woman. And that it was being reported after his conviction by being committed by a woman.

[Aruntraveller]

I found the report on BBC News misleading when I saw it on Breakfast TV earlier in the week. They referred to Blake as a woman throughout, with no mention of being Trans or a man. The photo of him was at my cursory glance enough to convince me it was a woman. It did register with me at the time that it was odd that a woman had committed this crime, overwhemingly male crime etc., but there are always exceptions.

IT was only later elsewhere on social media that I found out it was a man. It does not sit well with me that the BBC did not refer to the correct sex of the person involved.

As NS has already said the recording of such crime correctly is important and not something that should be left to the whim of an individual who thinks they are female.

[Nearly Sane]

Whereas stating a fact breaches the BBC's impartiality guidelines

https://pressgazette.co.uk/the-wire/newspaper-corrections-media-mistakes-errors-legal/justin-webb-bbc-today-trans-complaint/

[Nearly Sane]

Hadley Freeman on the Scarlet Blake case


https://archive.ph/QMA93

[Nearly Sane]

Victoria Smith on 'The hidden cost of pronoun politeness'


https://thecritic.co.uk/the-hidden-cost-of-pronoun-politeness/

[SteveH]

Much as I hate agreeing with anything in the Tufton Street Bugle, I think she's got a point.

[jeremyp]

I think you'll find it's a noun - woman rather than a pronoun. It is about Blake bring referred to as a woman, the crime being recorded as a woman.

That would be wrong. It should be recorded as having been committed by a male.

And that it was being reported after his conviction by being committed by a woman.

So what? It doesn't taint all women. Why are you so intent on dying on this hill?

[Nearly Sane]

That would be wrong. It should be recorded as having been committed by a male.
So what? It doesn't taint all women. Why are you so intent on dying on this hill?

You don't think facts are important in reporting crime?

[Nearly Sane]

'JK Rowling reported to police by trans activist India Willoughby for misgendering'. Willoughby is a bloke.


https://www.msn.com/en-gb/entertainment/music/jk-rowling-reported-to-police-by-trans-activist-india-willoughby-for-misgendering/ar-BB1juxxE

[Nearly Sane]

Suzanne Moore
'I won’t sacrifice my safety just so a trans woman feels validated'


https://archive.vn/F28Jl

[Nearly Sane]

Missed this at the time.

Utterly bizarre


https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/ex-whitehall-mandarin-led-premier-league-stasi-that-banned-newcastle-fan/ar-BB1hJ00v

[Aruntraveller]

A lengthy article by Andrew Doyle about the pressure that the Trans lobby is putting on gay people:

https://unherd.com/2024/03/the-ugly-return-of-homophobia/

Doyle is not one of my favourite commentators but he has a point even if he somewhat overplays the "progressive" card.

[Nearly Sane]

Woman getting sued for, amongst other things, saying 'only women menstruate'


https://www.personneltoday.com/hr/gender-critical-employee-network-defra-seen-duemmer-wrigley/

[Nearly Sane]

Woman getting sued for, amongst other things, saying 'only women menstruate'


https://www.personneltoday.com/hr/gender-critical-employee-network-defra-seen-duemmer-wrigley/

Link to the crowd funding site

https://www.crowdjustice.com/case/seen-chair-sued/

[Nearly Sane]

Moderator Announcement Thread is locked for review, see Mod thread on Board being reported to Police Scotland under Hate Crime Act.


https://www.religionethics.co.uk/index.php?topic=21405.msg882565#msg882565

[Nearly Sane]

Moderator Announcement Thread is locked for review, see Mod thread on Board being reported to Police Scotland under Hate Crime Act.


https://www.religionethics.co.uk/index.php?topic=21405.msg882565#msg882565

As per thread, this now appears to have been a joke. Thread unlocked

[Nearly Sane]

Jk Rowling's post not being treated as criminal, though not sure if there has been an investigation.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-68712471

It is worrying though that Dr Nick McKerrell, a senior law lecturer at Glasgow Caledonian University said

 "On balance I think she probably won't be prosecuted because the test in the legislation states that you have to be threatening and abusive to someone with your language which essentially means that you have to cause them fear and alarm.

 think it's close to the edge but I don't think, as it stands, those communications do that"

[Aruntraveller]

Julie Burchill going on an enjoyable rant about Daniel Radcliffe in Spiked:

https://www.spiked-online.com/2023/04/14/the-entitlement-and-ignorance-of-daniel-radcliffe/

I don't always agree with her, but she is not wrong here.

[jeremyp]

Julie Burchill going on an enjoyable rant about Daniel Radcliffe in Spiked:

https://www.spiked-online.com/2023/04/14/the-entitlement-and-ignorance-of-daniel-radcliffe/

I don't always agree with her, but she is not wrong here.

I never really rated her, but that was an impressive piece of writing.

[Aruntraveller]

I never really rated her, but that was an impressive piece of writing.

I agree. I remember when she used to write for one of the music papers (NME?) and I detested her then. Either she's mellowed or I have.

[Nearly Sane]

 The Problem With Saying ‘Sex Assigned at Birth’

Short version: because it's antiscientific bollocks used to appease those with a religious belief in a form of soul.

https://archive.ph/P05Ci

[Nearly Sane]

Suzanne Moore - "Trans children have been lied to by adults – the Cass report may now see the legal dam break"

The damage that will have been done to people by not maintaining critical empirical methods around trans ideology is made all the more tragic because it was motivated by attempts to be nice. Just there are certain times when that is  a deeply flawed approach.


https://archive.is/GHfGo

[jeremyp]

Netball has a policy on trans women playing in women's internationals. tl;dr they can't

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/netball/68767815

[Nearly Sane]

Netball has a policy on trans women playing in women's internationals. tl;dr they can't

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/netball/68767815

Should be at all levels where there are sex categories.