Trans rights: a perspective

[Nearly Sane]

Janice Turner on the puberty blockers ban, and the issues of any proposed trial.


https://archive.ph/BNAw6

[Nearly Sane]

Apart from getting the science wrong, ffs!

https://metro.co.uk/2024/12/16/wanted-breast-cancer-feel-comfortable-body-22198422/

[jeremyp]

Apart from getting the science wrong, ffs!

https://metro.co.uk/2024/12/16/wanted-breast-cancer-feel-comfortable-body-22198422/

The Cass Report into gender identity services, which came out earlier this year, called puberty blockers ‘powerful drugs with unproven benefits and significant risks.’

But I believe the real risk to young trans and non-binary people comes from banning them.

That's alright then. Shivani Dave's opinion trumps Cass.

[Nearly Sane]

Euan McColm on Sturgeon's rewriting of history


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14202817/EUAN-MCCOLM-Scotlands-paying-price-Sturgeons-toxic-politics-brass-neck-rewriting-recent-history-simply-self-serving-ROT.html

[Nearly Sane]

Confusion by the UK govt, or a broken promise?


https://x.com/SexMattersOrg/status/1869359740754768240

[Nearly Sane]

Iain MacWhirter on For Women Scotland and The Women Who Wouldn't Wheesht


https://archive.vn/iJk1w

[Christine]

https://reduxx.info/exclusive-five-male-inmates-transferred-to-minnesota-womens-prison-including-two-convicted-pedophiles/

I think the tide is turning, but not fast enough. Cruel and unusual punishment FOR THE WOMEN.

[Nearly Sane]

Steven Pinker resigns from being Honorary President of the Freedom of Religion Foundation because of their censoring of Jerry Coyne. The idea of gender in its modern ideology is religious, not scientific.

https://whyevolutionistrue.com/2024/12/29/steve-pinker-resigns-from-the-freedom-of-religion-foundation/

[Nearly Sane]

Steven Pinker resigns from being Honorary President of the Freedom of Religion Foundation because of their censoring of Jerry Coyne. The idea of gender in its modern ideology is religious, not scientific.

https://whyevolutionistrue.com/2024/12/29/steve-pinker-resigns-from-the-freedom-of-religion-foundation/

You can see Coyne's own resignation from the above link, and also Dawkins's resignation.


This is the piece to which Coyne had replied, and then had his piece removed.


https://freethoughtnow.org/what-is-a-woman/

[Walt Zingmatilder]

You can see Coyne's own resignation from the above link, and also Dawkins's resignation.


This is the piece to which Coyne had replied, and then had his piece removed.


https://freethoughtnow.org/what-is-a-woman/

Saw this on YouTube about a prominent YouTube atheist refuses to share a platform with Dawkins.

https://youtu.be/n09JGRMfMds?si=fIGBS22gByWtUUda

Are the things that made Dawkins an attractive atheist icon, his no nonsense biology and science now working against him?

[Nearly Sane]

Saw this on YouTube about a prominent YouTube atheist refuses to share a platform with Dawkins.

https://youtu.be/n09JGRMfMds?si=fIGBS22gByWtUUda

Are the things that made Dawkins an attractive atheist icon, his no nonsense biology and science now working against him?

I think it would be better phrased as to whether there is a split in the atheist/sceptic/freethought communities on the subject of gender ideology, and allowing for my own scepticism about whether such classifications were ever that useful, then I think the answer is yes.

That divide crosses various political boundaries as well, and despite the attempts to portray standing up for women's sex based spaces by some 'progressives', it is not a 'right wing' position   or simply a 'culture war' whatever people think such a thing is.

[Nearly Sane]

The article from Coyne that was removed

https://archive.ph/psT4I

[Walt Zingmatilder]

The article from Coyne that was removed

https://archive.ph/psT4I

Good, succinct article, but I noticed he couldn't help advertising his brand of atheism in it.

[Nearly Sane]

Good, succinct article, but I noticed he couldn't help advertising his brand of atheism in it.

Given the context, it seems relevant

[Nearly Sane]

Good article on the issue of women's spirt, and why too many on the left have punted their misogynist ideology.


https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2024/12/democrats-trans-rights-sports/681130/

[Steve H]

Good, succinct article, but I noticed he couldn't help advertising his brand of atheism in it.

I don't care about his atheism, and I enjoyed his book .Why Evolution Is True., but unfortunately, he's a hard determinist.

[Nearly Sane]

A response to Coyne, Pinker, and Dawkins from an atheist, who subscribes to the idea that feelings trump facts.


https://www.friendlyatheist.com/p/three-prominent-atheists-resigned

[Walt Zingmatilder]

A response to Coyne, Pinker, and Dawkins from an atheist, who subscribes to the idea that feelings Trump facts.


https://www.friendlyatheist.com/p/three-prominent-atheists-resigned

Sounds like trouble at Mill with public, media atheism but then again what position on religion isn't experiencing difficulties. Is society at present just that schismatic over stuff itshould really be able to just take in it's stride?

[Nearly Sane]

Sounds like trouble at Mill with public, media atheism but then again what position on religion isn't experiencing difficulties. Is society at present just that schismatic over stuff itshould really be able to just take in it's stride?

It hasn't been particularly good at unity in the past.

[jeremyp]

Good, succinct article, but I noticed he couldn't help advertising his brand of atheism in it.

What on Earth are you talking about? He doesn't talk about atheism at all in the article, which was written, by the way, for the Freedom From Religion Foundation.

[jeremyp]

Sounds like trouble at Mill with public, media atheism but then again what position on religion isn't experiencing difficulties. Is society at present just that schismatic over stuff itshould really be able to just take in it's stride?

Compare to religious disputes in which the losers often got burned at the stake or had other grisly fates.

[Nearly Sane]

What on Earth are you talking about? He doesn't talk about atheism at all in the article, which was written, by the way, for the Freedom From Religion Foundation.

I think the part Vlad was referring to was this

 "I sincerely hope that the FFRF does not insist on adopting a “progressive” political stance, rationalizing it as part of its battle against “Christian Nationalism.” As a liberal atheist, I am about as far from Christian nationalism as one can get! "

Which seems entirely relevant to the article.

[Walt Zingmatilder]

I think the part Vlad was referring to was this

 "I sincerely hope that the FFRF does not insist on adopting a “progressive” political stance, rationalizing it as part of its battle against “Christian Nationalism.” As a liberal atheist, I am about as far from Christian nationalism as one can get! "

Which seems entirely relevant to the article.

[Walt Zingmatilder]

Dawkins appeal to science in his sex and gender argument undermines his sex and gender argument.

https://www.firstthings.com/web-exclusives/2025/01/dawkinss-gender-dilemma

[Nearly Sane]

Dawkins appeal to science in his sex and gender argument undermines his sex and gender argument.

https://www.firstthings.com/web-exclusives/2025/01/dawkinss-gender-dilemma

I think that presents a simplistic view of Dawkis position, and also one that looks at a purely philosophical issue ignoring practicalities. I don't think Dawkins thinks science is 'normative' as asserted here, rather that there in making normative decisions scientific facts need to be acknowledged, and that any normative decisions based on a denial of those facts are inherently flawed.

In terms of the practicality, I have little time for looking at notional possibilities when women I know cannot attend rape counselling because the rape crisis centres will not support single sex spaces.