Faith Schools

[ippy]

The N S S is campaigning against having faith schools I thought this post is a convincing effort on their part.

www.nomorefaithschools.org/news/2018/08/church-schools-less-likely-to-admit-black-or-poor-pupils

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[SteveH]

Don't ban them, but withdraw state funding. I would, though, ban home-schooling.

[Roses]

Don't ban them, but withdraw state funding. I would, though, ban home-schooling.

Home schooling is ok in certain circumstances, but should be regulated more strictly. I home schooled our son who has Down's Syndrome, I used to call the inspectors in to see I was doing a good job, and they were very positive about my efforts.

Two of my grandsons are home schooled as the school they attended didn't meet their needs. One has Asperger's syndrome, the other has atypical dyslexia. Both are doing very well now, the eldest had all his GCSE's before he was 16, most with A*s. Their mother welcomes the inspectors in to review the boys' schooling  It is very important home schooled children are not isolated from others, my grandsons have a large circle of friends and take part in quite a number of activities like martial arts. 

[Rhiannon]

Don't ban them, but withdraw state funding. I would, though, ban home-schooling.

Why would you ban home schooling? What experience do you have of this?

[SteveH]

Why would you ban home schooling? What experience do you have of this?

I fail to see how parents can have enough knowledge to provide a full curriculum, let alone the time, and It is surely not good for kids to be isolated from their peers. Many home-schoolers are religious extremists who want to indoctrinate their kids, and I've known at least two online who were not only extremists but barely literate.

[Roses]

I fail to see how parents can have enough knowledge to provide a full curriculum, let alone the time, and It is surely not good for kids to be isolated from their peers. Many home-schoolers are religious extremists who want to indoctrinate their kids, and I've known at least two online who were not only extremists but barely literate.

It is obvious you don't know that much about home schooling, read my previous post on the topic.

[Shaker]

I fail to see how parents can have enough knowledge to provide a full curriculum, let alone the time, and It is surely not good for kids to be isolated from their peers.

Home schooling /= isolated from peers.

Many home-schoolers are religious extremists who want to indoctrinate their kids

Definitely true in the USA; here, minuscule and marginal cases.

[Nearly Sane]

As long as homeschooling is adequately regulated, I don't see the reason to reduce the freedom of people to do so.

[Roses]

As long as homeschooling is adequately regulated, I don't see the reason to reduce the freedom of people to do so.

Hear! Hear!

[Rhiannon]

I fail to see how parents can have enough knowledge to provide a full curriculum, let alone the time, and It is surely not good for kids to be isolated from their peers. Many home-schoolers are religious extremists who want to indoctrinate their kids, and I've known at least two online who were not only extremists but barely literate.

Let's pick that apart.

First, home schooling tuition in the curriculum is available online. It's possible to study all key stages with specialist tutors, and take state exams in preparation for further study, a return to school, college or university.

Isolation from peers can be got round by joining home schooling groups, and other social groups such as cadets, music schools, drama schools, football clubs etc etc. What home schooled kids tend not to have to deal with is the constant bullying and peer pressure over looks, sex and achievement.

Religious nutters exist everywhere. That some are home schooled is no reason to ban home schooling.

Plenty of people leave school illiterate, which is why there is such a big demand for adult literacy classes.

I'm failing to see your evidence for banning home schooling here.

[SteveH]

It is obvious you don't know that much about home schooling, read my previous post on the topic.

I have done. It didn't address any of the points I made in my post. Maybe you'd like to address them now.

[Robbie]

I fail to see how parents can have enough knowledge to provide a full curriculum, let alone the time, and It is surely not good for kids to be isolated from their peers. Many home-schoolers are religious extremists who want to indoctrinate their kids, and I've known at least two online who were not only extremists but barely literate.

Parents form a group with other parents, each having particular skills and knowledge. They're quite organised including outings and some sporting activities, the children don't miss out and learn a lot more than they would at school. They generally do join sixth form for A levels.

I have greatest respect for home schoolers and their children do very well on the whole.
The only down side I can see is a parent not going out to earn money though if the home schooling group is well organised, I suppose they could work part time.

[Rhiannon]

Depends what you want. Most parents can deliver a broad education, particularly at primary level and if they can team with other parents. Doesn't work if you want your kids to take exams though, in which case specialist tuition is required.

[SteveH]

Parents form a group with other parents, each having particular skills and knowledge. They're quite organised including outings and some sporting activities, the children don't miss out and learn a lot more than they would at school. They generally do join sixth form for A levels.

I have greatest respect for home schoolers and their children do very well on the whole.
The only down side I can see is a parent not going out to earn money though if the home schooling group is well organised, I suppose they could work part time.

It's most unlikely that the group will have all the specialised knowledge necessary. I could probably teach Eng. Lit. to A level, at a pinch, but nothing else. Anyway, if they're that big and organised a group, why not just send their kids to school?

[Robbie]

Because the parents find the schools in their area unsatisfactory or not right for their children.
The groups aren't big like a school, there are a few children at different levels who are taught by parents who have specialist knowledge of maths, english, the sciences, history, music and art. Many kids thrive in a smaller group but still interact with others. As Rhiannon said there are online resources and they can be entered for exams externally.

I wouldn't have wanted to do it, neither would my husband, though we were very helpful. We enjoyed our work outside the home, our children went to good schools & were happy there. However I've known people who have been dissatisfied with local schools, home taught successfully up to GCSE level after which their children went to sixth form and did well.

I don't know why you are so anti. There isn't a one size fits all when it comes to children. We & our children were probably lucky.

Take your point about 'religious nutters' but home schoolers of that mindset are few and far between in this country, many of them choosing types of free school if they have the option. In any case home schoolers are inspected and regulated. If the children are doing well and happy, what's the problem?

[Roses]

I had no problem teaching our Down's Syndrome son at home, as he is quite severely mentally disabled, however I would never have contemplated teaching our birth daughters as they are much brighter than their old Mum.

Our daughter had tutors for the subjects she couldn't manage with her lads. The eldest decided he didn't wish to go to college to d his 'A' levels and is tutoring himself. He is more than capable having an extremely high intelligence.