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Re: The Living-Cell
« Reply #225 on: September 04, 2018, 03:30:08 PM »
The many people who have found great comfort in Jesus Christ's word, is a scientific principle that has repeated itself over and over and over again...over many generations...and is the subject matter of all iniquity...of all righteousness...and, now, all science.

Don't forget that this planet is just a dot in a massive universe that is full of science...full of many other populations and full of an all knowing God.


What Jesus is quoted as saying has NOTHING to do with real science, only your imaginary version of it.

It is likely there are other intelligent beings in this vast universe of ours, but it isn't a fact, anymore than the existence of a god is a fact. WHERE IS YOUR VERIFIABLE EVIDENCE?
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« Reply #226 on: September 04, 2018, 03:46:12 PM »

Yes...I have read that commandment and fully endorse it. I know what I'm saying isn't popular...but neither is the Holy Bible...in fact Jesus was crucified telling us all that he had the keys over all universal laws including resurrection. Well I believe him and offer a science whereby it all becomes understandable...reasonable and scientific...and considering what is at stake...and very soon...it must be time for everyone to repent, else suffer the consequences. There is no way you can besmirch the evidence that there is a superabundant, dynamic energy behind all science because it is all around you all the time...in every star and in every atom, in all life and in all evil...and the only wholesome scientific laws appertaining to it that will benefit us all are God's righteous laws as taught by Jesus Christ and these will shortly come into full force. It's small wonder then that God wants us all to know what is at stake if we ignore him or his son.

If you believed any of that then you'd be the first to repent, and you can start by apologising for all your attempts to mislead with false claims.  If we see no apology from you that will only confirm what is pretty apparent, that you are a fraud, through and through, with no intention at all of coming here for actual dialogue.

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« Reply #227 on: September 04, 2018, 03:49:12 PM »
The church that says we must not follow the accurate teaching of Jesus Christ, or that Jesus Christ is not the Son of God...or that Jesus Christ is not risen from the dead...is null and void.
Wheras the church which proclaims the Risen Lord Jesus, God incarnate, second person of the Trinity, is the Body of Christ - and if you are not part of that Body, you are not being Christ in the world. I'll make it easy for you. Here's some evidence - yes, I know you are unfamiliar with the word, being singularly unable to post it yourself - EVIDENCE from Scripture showing who Jesus is for Christians. Yes, I know it's from the KJV - not my favourate translation - but you use a lot of words from it therefore I presume you are comfortable with it. Do you accept these Scriptures which show just who Christ is, yes or no? http://bugman123.com/Bible/JesusIsGod.html
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Re: The Living-Cell
« Reply #228 on: September 04, 2018, 07:11:45 PM »
Sneering and scoffing.....

Nope, just pointing out a fact.
However unpalatable it is to you.
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« Reply #229 on: September 04, 2018, 07:13:05 PM »
In actual fact the planet Earth was spewed out of the newly forming sun when the sun was in its infancy and much larger than it is today
Nope.

The Sun and the Earth were both created from the same disc of gas and other debris. The Earth was never spewed out of the Sun.

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and the newly forming planet was indeed void, or rather, empty
Actually, it started out as a molten blob.


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when a star erupts into life it is dominated by the excessive production of hydrogen atoms which cause heavier atoms to be spewed out as slag every so often
Nope.

Stars consume hydrogen and produce helium and other heavier elements.

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and the whole Holy Bible goes to great lengths to bring this knowledge to us righteously, and in a loving, caring manner, to save us from all tribulations, whilst those who know they have offended God, and who refuse to repent...have only Revelation 21:8 to look forward to.

Show me the bit in the Bible that discusses the process of creation of heavy elements through fusion in stars.
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Re: The Living-Cell
« Reply #230 on: September 05, 2018, 10:27:08 AM »
Nope.

The Sun and the Earth were both created from the same disc of gas and other debris. The Earth was never spewed out of the Sun.
Actually, it started out as a molten blob.

Nope.

Stars consume hydrogen and produce helium and other heavier elements.

Show me the bit in the Bible that discusses the process of creation of heavy elements through fusion in stars.

Quoting what science has determined isn't  the whole truth because science doesn't  have the whole picture. The whole picture will only be determined when we use God's 'dynamic energy' as the sole creative force in the universe and by his great skill Almighty God created all things and all scientific laws from his refinement of nature's wild laws. It earnt him the esteem of the entire righteous population who were saved by that wonderful knowledge and now it is our turn...and that is gleaned from the Holy Bible...Isaiah sums it up when he says...Look into the heavens, who created these things...with the abundance of his mighty power/dynamic energy...each one is catalogued by name and number and not one is missing.




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Re: The Living-Cell
« Reply #231 on: September 05, 2018, 10:40:45 AM »
Quoting what science has determined isn't  the whole truth because science doesn't  have the whole picture. The whole picture will only be determined when we use God's 'dynamic energy' as the sole creative force in the universe and by his great skill Almighty God created all things and all scientific laws from his refinement of nature's wild laws. It earnt him the esteem of the entire righteous population who were saved by that wonderful knowledge and now it is our turn...and that is gleaned from the Holy Bible...Isaiah sums it up when he says...Look into the heavens, who created these things...with the abundance of his mighty power/dynamic energy...each one is catalogued by name and number and not one is missing.

But when you use "God's dynamic energy" you end up making statements that are factually false, like stars creating hydrogen or the Sun spewing out the Earth. It seems that your ideas just make you believe stuff that's wrong.
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Re: The Living-Cell
« Reply #232 on: September 05, 2018, 10:41:33 AM »
Quoting what science has determined isn't  the whole truth because science doesn't  have the whole picture. The whole picture will only be determined when we use God's 'dynamic energy' as the sole creative force in the universe and by his great skill Almighty God created all things and all scientific laws from his refinement of nature's wild laws. It earnt him the esteem of the entire righteous population who were saved by that wonderful knowledge and now it is our turn...and that is gleaned from the Holy Bible...Isaiah sums it up when he says...Look into the heavens, who created these things...with the abundance of his mighty power/dynamic energy...each one is catalogued by name and number and not one is missing.

Wibble.

Your theobabble is no substitute for honest and meticulous attention to facts.

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Re: The Living-Cell
« Reply #233 on: September 05, 2018, 10:52:20 AM »
Wheras the church which proclaims the Risen Lord Jesus, God incarnate, second person of the Trinity, is the Body of Christ - and if you are not part of that Body, you are not being Christ in the world. I'll make it easy for you. Here's some evidence - yes, I know you are unfamiliar with the word, being singularly unable to post it yourself - EVIDENCE from Scripture showing who Jesus is for Christians. Yes, I know it's from the KJV - not my favourate translation - but you use a lot of words from it therefore I presume you are comfortable with it. Do you accept these Scriptures which show just who Christ is, yes or no? http://bugman123.com/Bible/JesusIsGod.html

I believe in the accurate teaching that Jesus Christ, himself, taught us. That teaching isn't complicated...it is a question of allowing his truth to invigorate our innocent and righteous thought patterns because this is where our individual health problems are rooted. Jesus, the Holy Bible, and all its adherents should know and recognise that Jesus is the likeness of God whom Almighty God offered equal status to but which Jesus rejected choosing to sit at God's right hand but with immense authority over the entire universe...and this teaches us a lot about what is only hinted at in the Holy Bible...including the science of Everything...the foundation stones behind the science of righteousness...God's 'word'...made flesh by Jesus.




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Re: The Living-Cell
« Reply #234 on: September 05, 2018, 10:59:03 AM »
I believe in the accurate teaching that Jesus Christ, himself, taught us. That teaching isn't complicated...it is a question of allowing his truth to invigorate our innocent and righteous thought patterns because this is where our individual health problems are rooted. Jesus, the Holy Bible, and all its adherents should know and recognise that Jesus is the likeness of God whom Almighty God offered equal status to but which Jesus rejected choosing to sit at God's right hand but with immense authority over the entire universe...and this teaches us a lot about what is only hinted at in the Holy Bible...including the science of Everything...the foundation stones behind the science of righteousness...God's 'word'...made flesh by Jesus.






Great.
So you accurately believe that Jesus ACCURATELY taught us that He is God - as per virtually all John's Gospel?
You see, I can put "accurately" in there as well.
Any ACCURATE reading of the ACCURATE words in an ACCURATELY translated copy of John's Gospel will show you that Jesus ACCURATELY taught that He believed Himself to be God.
Do you accept this?
Or do you deny Jesus ACCURATE teaching?
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Re: The Living-Cell
« Reply #235 on: September 05, 2018, 11:02:44 AM »

Your theobabble is no substitute for honest and meticulous attention to facts.

And that is exactly how we should study the Holy Bible if we want the truth so desperately needed in these times of great tribulations  which will only get worse before it suddenly gets better and the only cost will be, us, trying to be honest, caring, loving, helpful, neighbourly, upright, considerate, well meaning, lawful, and righteous, according to the accurate teaching of Jesus Christ. Our survival depends upon it.


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Re: The Living-Cell
« Reply #236 on: September 05, 2018, 11:08:30 AM »

Great.
So you accurately believe that Jesus ACCURATELY taught us that He is God - as per virtually all John's Gospel?
You see, I can put "accurately" in there as well.
Any ACCURATE reading of the ACCURATE words in an ACCURATELY translated copy of John's Gospel will show you that Jesus ACCURATELY taught that He believed Himself to be God.
Do you accept this?
Or do you deny Jesus ACCURATE teaching?

The use of my accurate is to show the difference between Jesus's teaching and Constantine's...The difference between righteousness and all false religions. It is the difference between us harvesting God's dynamic energy for our health and welfare or allowing evil to bleed us of a property vital to our health and well-being.


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Re: The Living-Cell
« Reply #237 on: September 05, 2018, 11:18:06 AM »
The use of my accurate is to show the difference between Jesus's teaching and Constantine's...The difference between righteousness and all false religions. It is the difference between us harvesting God's dynamic energy for our health and welfare or allowing evil to bleed us of a property vital to our health and well-being.
At least you didn't include scientific 'accuracy' in your list.
That's very honest of you Nick.
Now will you use common sense and desist with the psuedo scientific ramblings?
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Re: The Living-Cell
« Reply #238 on: September 05, 2018, 11:56:45 AM »
At least you didn't include scientific 'accuracy' in your list.
That's very honest of you Nick.
Now will you use common sense and desist with the psuedo scientific ramblings?


If you think we can improve our health and welfare without science then be my guest...science is implied in everything I say because righteous science is implied in everything I say...and we...the product of all that science need to get to know the owner of all that science asap because our future tenancy on this planet depends upon it. Remember Satan and all his cronies were dumped out of Heaven on us and now the time is ripe to do it again, only this time there will be no repentance, it will be for good...It's all in the Holy Bible.


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« Reply #239 on: September 05, 2018, 12:02:29 PM »
The use of my accurate is to show the difference between Jesus's teaching and Constantine's...The difference between righteousness and all false religions. It is the difference between us harvesting God's dynamic energy for our health and welfare or allowing evil to bleed us of a property vital to our health and well-being.




What the heck has Constantiner got to do with it?
The first identification of Christ as God came in the Synoptic Gospels - the earliest of which dates to before AD 90 - and, yes, I have evidence - remember the word, NM - to substantiate it.
Then we have early Christian writings from the mid second century confirming the Gospel record.
If you want it written in stone, hey, I'm your man.
There's an inscription - a graffito, really - on the walls of a temple of Khonsu at Karnak, Egypt, dating to about 160 AD. It's a a crude depiction of a pharaoh - two centuries after the last one was killed. The figure isn't a king, though; the rather poorly carved legend reads "Jesus, who is God".
So even then, believers in the mid second century were pretty sure they knew who Christ is....long before Constantine stuck his face in anything.
If the writers of the Gspels, the second century Christian fathers, and ordinary Christian graffiti writers were sure, why aren't you?
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Re: The Living-Cell
« Reply #240 on: September 05, 2018, 12:09:52 PM »

What the heck has Constantiner got to do with it?
The first identification of Christ as God came in the Synoptic Gospels - the earliest of which dates to before AD 90 - and, yes, I have evidence - remember the word, NM - to substantiate it.
Then we have early Christian writings from the mid second century confirming the Gospel record.
If you want it written in stone, hey, I'm your man.
There's an inscription - a graffito, really - on the walls of a temple of Khonsu at Karnak, Egypt, dating to about 160 AD. It's a a crude depiction of a pharaoh - two centuries after the last one was killed. The figure isn't a king, though; the rather poorly carved legend reads "Jesus, who is God".
So even then, believers in the mid second century were pretty sure they knew who Christ is....long before Constantine stuck his face in anything.
If the writers of the Gspels, the second century Christian fathers, and ordinary Christian graffiti writers were sure, why aren't you?


Because amidst all that commotion that you quote there is still the accurate teaching of Jesus Christ...as accurate today as it was then...and by following his truth we are following a science...and that science is proven by the fact that those who wind-up the masses, and there are many, are working in flat contradiction to that science and the state of the world's health which I would scientifically state as being abysmal, is the direct result. Shortly though, that great event, described in the Holy Bible as the end of this wicked system will be upon us...and I hope and pray that all those who can be saved will be saved and reading Jesus's accurate word, accurately, is the key.

 

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Re: The Living-Cell
« Reply #241 on: September 05, 2018, 12:17:20 PM »

Because amidst all that commotion that you quote there is still the accurate teaching of Jesus Christ...as accurate today as it was then...and by following his truth we are following a science...and that science is proven by the fact that those who wind-up the masses, and there are many, are working in flat contradiction to that science and the state of the world's health which I would scientifically state as being abysmal, is the direct result. Shortly though, that great event, described in the Holy Bible as the end of this wicked system will be upon us...and I hope and pray that all those who can be saved will be saved and reading Jesus's accurate word, accurately, is the key.

 

How do you know the teaching of Jesus was accurate?
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« Reply #242 on: September 05, 2018, 12:21:26 PM »

Because amidst all that commotion that you quote there is still the accurate teaching of Jesus Christ...as accurate today as it was then...and by following his truth we are following a science...and that science is proven by the fact that those who wind-up the masses, and there are many, are working in flat contradiction to that science and the state of the world's health which I would scientifically state as being abysmal, is the direct result. Shortly though, that great event, described in the Holy Bible as the end of this wicked system will be upon us...and I hope and pray that all those who can be saved will be saved and reading Jesus's accurate word, accurately, is the key.

 

That would be the "accurate teaching" that Christ is God - according to the accurate reading of Scripture, then?
That would be the "accurate teaching" that the Holy Spirit is refeered to, not as 'dynamic energy', but as a Person - in any accurate reading of Scripture, then?
And that would be the Scripture which was in existance before Constantine, then?
So you accept the Triune nature of God, as per that accurate Scripture, the early writings, and the aforementioned graffito?
It's not a hard question.
A "Yes" or "No" will do.
Try answering without waffle, please.
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« Reply #243 on: September 05, 2018, 12:34:27 PM »
That would be the "accurate teaching" that Christ is God - according to the accurate reading of Scripture, then?
That would be the "accurate teaching" that the Holy Spirit is refeered to, not as 'dynamic energy', but as a Person - in any accurate reading of Scripture, then?
And that would be the Scripture which was in existance before Constantine, then?
So you accept the Triune nature of God, as per that accurate Scripture, the early writings, and the aforementioned graffito?
It's not a hard question.
A "Yes" or "No" will do.
Try answering without waffle, please.


My response is designed via employing a wonderful righteous science. If I'm correct then it is the Holy Spirit, within me, that is guiding my thought patterns...and here they are, in a nut-shell...That the healthy, replicating, living-cell, generates a vital energy, which we waste as we pass through our youthful years and this leaves us all desolate in our later years. By harnessing God's 'dynamic energy/mighty power' via the accurate teaching of Jesus Christ we can harness that superabundant energy, that made stars and atoms into our own lives...but we need obedience and faith in the accurate teaching of Jesus Christ to do it.

   

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« Reply #244 on: September 05, 2018, 01:00:11 PM »
If I'm correct .......
Common sense tells us that you are not!
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« Reply #245 on: September 05, 2018, 01:02:32 PM »

......science is implied in everything I say ......
Common sense tells us that it is your over used imagination that tells you and only you, that.
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« Reply #246 on: September 05, 2018, 01:48:43 PM »
Common sense tells us that it is your over used imagination that tells you and only you, that.

Using common sense is something I'm often criticised for using in my science...common sense extracted from the Holy Bible...even though Almighty God and Jesus use it a lot to speak to an unscientific people.

Here is how that unspoken science weaves and wefts its wonderful way through our machinations...it brought together a people who had been scattered amongst all the nations bringing them into the lands of their birthright before God's Judgement is pronounced upon us all. They wont gain any favour from it though those reborn will be able to offset their pain and suffering over those generations and lay it fairly and squarely upon the shoulders of those who planned their destruction...those who will be spiritually snatched into God's prison of exile, 'the fiery lake of sulphur', unless they respond forthwith and repent...It's up to them, just as it is up to us all...each and everyone of us..


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« Reply #247 on: September 05, 2018, 02:34:58 PM »
Using common sense is something I'm often criticised for using in my science...
I don't see how.
Why?
Because common sense tells us that your "science" isn't really science!
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« Reply #248 on: September 05, 2018, 02:47:52 PM »
I don't see how.
Why?
Because common sense tells us that your "science" isn't really science!

No...because common sense should tell us that Jesus Christ is talking a language that appeals to those who value the things he stands for and want to discover more. That is why the word of Almighty God flourishes amongst the honest and the caring, the Holy and the righteous...but, apparently, not to those who are lost or who don't care much for the rest of us.


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« Reply #249 on: September 05, 2018, 02:51:46 PM »
No...because common sense should tell us that Jesus Christ is talking a language that appeals to those who value the things he stands for and want to discover more. That is why the word of Almighty God flourishes amongst the honest and the caring, the Holy and the righteous...but, apparently, not to those who are lost or who don't care much for the rest of us.

More nonsense! ::)
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