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Re: The Living-Cell
« Reply #275 on: September 06, 2018, 09:18:04 PM »
The error you are all making is in thinking that Almighty God and his son, Jesus Christ, know nothing about science, whilst their science is far more advanced than you or I. It's all built around the spiritual nature of the universe and I have told you often enough that the same energy that science says 'everything is energy' about, and the same stuff that  science calls dark matter, and dark energy, is Biblically called, God's spiritual waters, God's mighty power, God's fountain of living waters, God's dynamic energy, and is the same invisible and undetectable property Almighty God and Jesus are referring to. The Holy Bible tells us what it is good for and that equates to genetic repair, rebirth, resurrection and everlasting life, and we know this because Jesus Christ told us and showed us. It is especially important right now because, like any advanced scientist might, Almighty God knew a few thousand years ago what will happen in our now, immediate future, and sent Jesus to show us how to live while we wait, how we must live if we want to be saved from the full force of it all, and how we will certainly live after it has all passed.

You are forgetting that Almighty God and Jesus Christ are the highest authority in the universe and what they say goes and what they are saying is that these forthcoming great tribulations will serve as God's Judgement and we will have to be ready for it righteously or fail. The innocent are excused because they will accept righteousness without quibble , unlike those who are led by iniquity or those who have other plans. Following the life, death, and resurrection, of Jesus Christ, accurately, is the refining tool for us all, bar none, and anyone who reads the Holy Bible, themselves, should know this.

ps...slagging off others who read and employ the Holy Bible in their daily lives is against the teaching of Jesus Christ and won't earn you any brownie points.

This stuff you've posted below Nick, you nor anyone else have ever substantiated anything like this, there is no way that you can substantiate any of it and there's no way that you or anyone else can possibly know any of this absolute nonsense.

"You are forgetting that Almighty God and Jesus Christ are the highest authority in the universe and what they say goes and what they are saying is that these forthcoming great tribulations will serve as God's Judgement and we will have to be ready for it righteously or fail. The innocent are excused"

All you ever do Nick, is to assert knowledge that you are totally unable to prove that there's any truth in any of it and I doubt you ever will, it's all gibbering unsubstantiated nonsense.

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Re: The Living-Cell
« Reply #276 on: September 07, 2018, 06:49:34 AM »
The error you are all making is in thinking that Almighty God and his son, Jesus Christ, know nothing about science, whilst their science is far more advanced than you or I. It's all built around the spiritual nature of the universe and I have told you often enough that the same energy that science says 'everything is energy' about, and the same stuff that  science calls dark matter, and dark energy, is Biblically called, God's spiritual waters, God's mighty power, God's fountain of living waters, God's dynamic energy, and is the same invisible and undetectable property Almighty God and Jesus are referring to. The Holy Bible tells us what it is good for and that equates to genetic repair, rebirth, resurrection and everlasting life, and we know this because Jesus Christ told us and showed us. It is especially important right now because, like any advanced scientist might, Almighty God knew a few thousand years ago what will happen in our now, immediate future, and sent Jesus to show us how to live while we wait, how we must live if we want to be saved from the full force of it all, and how we will certainly live after it has all passed.

You are forgetting that Almighty God and Jesus Christ are the highest authority in the universe and what they say goes and what they are saying is that these forthcoming great tribulations will serve as God's Judgement and we will have to be ready for it righteously or fail. The innocent are excused because they will accept righteousness without quibble , unlike those who are led by iniquity or those who have other plans. Following the life, death, and resurrection, of Jesus Christ, accurately, is the refining tool for us all, bar none, and anyone who reads the Holy Bible, themselves, should know this.

ps...slagging off others who read and employ the Holy Bible in their daily lives is against the teaching of Jesus Christ and won't earn you any brownie points.

Ignorant wibble.

It is right and proper to challenge cranks and fraudsters who mis-use the internet to spread alarmist fake beliefs through persistent misrepresentations, distortions and exaggerations be it of science or religion. 

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Re: The Living-Cell
« Reply #277 on: September 07, 2018, 08:36:00 AM »
If god exists I bet it is thrilled with the way NM is making it and Jesus look stupid. Maybe a special BBQ has been reserved for NM when he is roasting in hell!
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Re: The Living-Cell
« Reply #278 on: September 07, 2018, 09:01:03 AM »
Ignorant wibble.

It is right and proper to challenge cranks and fraudsters who mis-use the internet to spread alarmist fake beliefs through persistent misrepresentations, distortions and exaggerations be it of science or religion.

All the signs listed in Revelation are present in this day and age, as far as I can ascertain and are coming to a head like a nasty carbuncle. It is time to take Jesus Christ seriously...if we want what he offers. I will sum them all up in the Biblical statement 'difficult times, hard to deal with and governments not knowing the way out of them...Many of these problems are hidden from view...but there is a way out. In our rush to bury Almighty God the nasty arm of Satan has become massive in the face of us all...but it is amazing how quickly he retreats when he is faced with righteousness. Try it some time.


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Re: The Living-Cell
« Reply #279 on: September 07, 2018, 09:26:47 AM »
All the signs listed in Revelation are present in this day and age, as far as I can ascertain and are coming to a head like a nasty carbuncle. It is time to take Jesus Christ seriously...if we want what he offers. I will sum them all up in the Biblical statement 'difficult times, hard to deal with and governments not knowing the way out of them...Many of these problems are hidden from view...but there is a way out. In our rush to bury Almighty God the nasty arm of Satan has become massive in the face of us all...but it is amazing how quickly he retreats when he is faced with righteousness. Try it some time.


It is you who is making a mockery of the Bible with your nonsense. If Satan exists I bet he is really proud of Nicholas Marks, his henchman in chief. Think on!
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Re: The Living-Cell
« Reply #280 on: September 07, 2018, 09:48:46 AM »

It is you who is making a mockery of the Bible with your nonsense. If Satan exists I bet he is really proud of Nicholas Marks, his henchman in chief. Think on!

When Jesus had the same accusation made against him he replied...Does Satan condemn Satan?...I suggest the same righteous reasoning applies here.

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« Reply #281 on: September 07, 2018, 10:13:40 AM »

It is you who is making a mockery of the Bible with your nonsense. If Satan exists I bet he is really proud of Nicholas Marks, his henchman in chief. Think on!
What a bloody stupid comment.
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Re: The Living-Cell
« Reply #282 on: September 07, 2018, 10:47:44 AM »
When Jesus had the same accusation made against him he replied...Does Satan condemn Satan?...I suggest the same righteous reasoning applies here.


More nonsensical garbage.
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« Reply #283 on: September 07, 2018, 02:42:00 PM »
Hello Nicholas

I'm with you on the energy, everything is energy and vibration; Nikola Tesla (who's name Elon Musk stole) will tell you that. God's Word is vibration, and vibration creates.

Regards Revelation, please look at Historicism rather then Futurism. The book of Daniel was fulfilled in 70AD by Christ; very little is left in Revelation which is shown by the Historicist view. 
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Re: The Living-Cell
« Reply #284 on: September 07, 2018, 02:54:59 PM »
Hello Nicholas

I'm with you on the energy, everything is energy and vibration; Nikola Tesla (who's name Elon Musk stole) will tell you that. God's Word is vibration, and vibration creates.

Regards Revelation, please look at Historicism rather then Futurism. The book of Daniel was fulfilled in 70AD by Christ; very little is left in Revelation which is shown by the Historicist view.


Oh blimey, don't tell me there is someone in the universe who actually agrees with NM's garbage. :o

Mind you, thinking of vibration I remember a speaker who gave a sermon at the awful Pentecostal Church I attended as a kid. He was describing in graphic detail what would happen to unsaved virgins in hell. In the pulpit one hand seemed to be going up and down, presumably in his trousers. He was definitely vibrating, as he got off on his description of the virgins. ;D 
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Re: The Living-Cell
« Reply #285 on: September 07, 2018, 03:05:58 PM »
Hello Nicholas

I'm with you on the energy, everything is energy and vibration; Nikola Tesla (who's name Elon Musk stole) will tell you that. God's Word is vibration, and vibration creates.

Regards Revelation, please look at Historicism rather then Futurism. The book of Daniel was fulfilled in 70AD by Christ; very little is left in Revelation which is shown by the Historicist view.

Another load of drivel from the next on the list after Nick, what a fine pair!

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Re: The Living-Cell
« Reply #286 on: September 07, 2018, 04:06:11 PM »
Hello Nicholas

I'm with you on the energy, everything is energy and vibration; Nikola Tesla (who's name Elon Musk stole) will tell you that. God's Word is vibration, and vibration creates.


Interesting translation of the Logos idea. Doesn't seem to be mentioned in the Wiki article:

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Logos (UK: /ˈloʊɡɒs, ˈlɒɡɒs/, US: /ˈloʊɡoʊs/; Ancient Greek: λόγος, translit. lógos; from λέγω, légō, lit. 'I say') is a term in Western philosophy, psychology, rhetoric, and religion derived from a Greek word variously meaning "ground", "plea", "opinion", "expectation", "word", "speech", "account", "reason", "proportion", and "discourse",[1][2] but it became a technical term in Western philosophy beginning with Heraclitus (c.  535 – c.  475 BC), who used the term for a principle of order and knowledge.[3] Logos is the logic behind an argument.[4] Logos tries to persuade an audience using logical arguments and supportive evidence. Logos is a persuasive technique often used in writing and rhetoric.

Ancient Greek philosophers used the term in different ways. The sophists used the term to mean discourse; Aristotle applied the term to refer to "reasoned discourse"[5] or "the argument" in the field of rhetoric, and considered it one of the three modes of persuasion alongside ethos and pathos.[6] Stoic philosophers identified the term with the divine animating principle pervading the Universe. Within Hellenistic Judaism, Philo of Alexandria (c.  20 BC – c.  50 AD) adopted the term into Jewish philosophy.[7] The Gospel of John identifies the Logos, through which all things are made, as divine (theos),[8] and further identifies Jesus Christ as the incarnate Logos. The term is also used in Sufism, and the analytical psychology of Carl Jung.

Despite the conventional translation as "word", it is not used for a word in the grammatical sense; instead, the term lexis (λέξις, léxis) was used.[9] However, both logos and lexis derive from the same verb légō (λέγω), meaning "(I) count, tell, say, speak".[1][9][10]
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Re: The Living-Cell
« Reply #287 on: September 07, 2018, 05:40:46 PM »

Hi SweetPea...I remember you as a kinder person from previous expressions here...and that's all it takes  to find righteousness. You must see that hard hearted people with closed minds aren't going to become Christ-like in time and Almighty God hasn't abandoned us. What he has done is leave his Judgement to the moment when a huge global castrophe disrupts the entire working state of what is normal...gravity, the elements...and all evil will all be thrown around by these great tribulations but those who believe that Jesus Christ is the resurrected son of God will have a spiritual advantage which coincides with the righteous teaching of God's word...itself based upon the science of Everything...and to be honest...after weighing up the extent of evil, world wide, and how it is developing...I can't wait.


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Re: The Living-Cell
« Reply #288 on: September 07, 2018, 06:16:30 PM »
Hi SweetPea...I remember you as a kinder person from previous expressions here...and that's all it takes  to find righteousness. You must see that hard hearted people with closed minds aren't going to become Christ-like in time and Almighty God hasn't abandoned us. What he has done is leave his Judgement to the moment when a huge global castrophe disrupts the entire working state of what is normal...gravity, the elements...and all evil will all be thrown around by these great tribulations but those who believe that Jesus Christ is the resurrected son of God will have a spiritual advantage which coincides with the righteous teaching of God's word...itself based upon the science of Everything...and to be honest...after weighing up the extent of evil, world wide, and how it is developing...I can't wait.

That you are so gleefully enthusiastic about this impending catastrophe isn't nice to see: fortunately there are no good reasons to take you seriously.

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Re: The Living-Cell
« Reply #289 on: September 07, 2018, 06:29:43 PM »
Hello Nicholas

I'm with you on the energy, everything is energy and vibration; Nikola Tesla (who's name Elon Musk stole) will tell you that. God's Word is vibration, and vibration creates.

Regards Revelation, please look at Historicism rather then Futurism. The book of Daniel was fulfilled in 70AD by Christ; very little is left in Revelation which is shown by the Historicist view. 
   



Oh 'eck.....I've tried.
Believe me, I've tried.
If he mentions 'Constantine'; 'dynamic energy'; 'science' or, for that matter, Klingon carrot farmers, don't blame me.
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Re: The Living-Cell
« Reply #290 on: September 07, 2018, 06:31:24 PM »
Hi SweetPea...I remember you as a kinder person from previous expressions here...and that's all it takes  to find righteousness. You must see that hard hearted people with closed minds aren't going to become Christ-like in time and Almighty God hasn't abandoned us. What he has done is leave his Judgement to the moment when a huge global castrophe disrupts the entire working state of what is normal...gravity, the elements...and all evil will all be thrown around by these great tribulations but those who believe that Jesus Christ is the resurrected son of God will have a spiritual advantage which coincides with the righteous teaching of God's word...itself based upon the science of Everything...and to be honest...after weighing up the extent of evil, world wide, and how it is developing...I can't wait.



See wot I mean?
Can I have a translation in Klingon?
"for, as long as but a hundred of us remain alive, never will we on any conditions be brought under English rule. It is in truth not for glory, nor riches, nor honours that we are fighting, but for freedom - for that alone, which no honest man gives up but with life itself."

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« Reply #291 on: September 07, 2018, 06:39:47 PM »
See wot I mean?
Can I have a translation in Klingon?

Klingon would make much more sense than NM's drivel.
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« Reply #292 on: September 07, 2018, 07:04:49 PM »
That you are so gleefully enthusiastic about this impending catastrophe isn't nice to see: fortunately there are no good reasons to take you seriously.

The catastrophes that have already taken place justify my position...The Jewish round-up through world war 2...the mass turning away of peoples from their homelands, now, as we speak...the atrocious genetic mal-functions in our health...The world that is forming and fashioning behind closed curtains right now....There is no end to the chaos, not ignoring all the flooding and land disturbances that are caused by the approach of God's Judgement tool. Satan has a lot to answer for and Almighty God has told us how it will happen...It will be by virtue of a nasty global impact which we can be spared from if we follow righteous laws...don't blame me, Jesus Christ, or Almighty God because you refuse  to listen...and I have been particularly active, here, trying to save you.


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« Reply #293 on: September 07, 2018, 07:17:35 PM »
If the universe responds to electric/spiritual laws, just as the Holy Bible tells us...then we are living in direct opposition to those laws because they need understanding, activating and brought to fruition. It's no good saying 'I'm all right Jack'...Almighty God doesn't work that way. Like all the energy we build up within us from the healthy replicating living-cell, we must share that energy to other areas within and around us, so that the various needs of many glands functioning at various times and varying strengths are all met. This is why I, Jesus Christ, and common sense, tell us not to waste that energy and wasting it is achieved when we do things contrary to righteousness. There is a massive science attached to this reasoning all of which are a part of Jesus's accurate teaching. Don't think that ignoring that science is your best option...it isn't...it is at the root of all genetic failures...and Jesus Christ is the only source whereby this knowledge is made known to us.


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« Reply #294 on: September 07, 2018, 07:22:16 PM »
The catastrophes that have already taken place justify my position...The Jewish round-up through world war 2...the mass turning away of peoples from their homelands, now, as we speak...the atrocious genetic mal-functions in our health...The world that is forming and fashioning behind closed curtains right now....There is no end to the chaos, not ignoring all the flooding and land disturbances that are caused by the approach of God's Judgement tool. Satan has a lot to answer for and Almighty God has told us how it will happen...It will be by virtue of a nasty global impact which we can be spared from if we follow righteous laws...don't blame me, Jesus Christ, or Almighty God because you refuse  to listen...and I have been particularly active, here, trying to save you.

What, like you have the power to save people ?  It is not humans that could do that, but a God could, presumably if he so desired, he could eliminate Satan with a wave of his hand, he could blow impacting interplanetary bodies off course.  If he chooses however to allow evil full rein and chooses to allow suffering, then that looks like pure evil.

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Re: The Living-Cell
« Reply #295 on: September 07, 2018, 07:43:13 PM »
What, like you have the power to save people ?  It is not humans that could do that, but a God could, presumably if he so desired, he could eliminate Satan with a wave of his hand, he could blow impacting interplanetary bodies off course.  If he chooses however to allow evil full rein and chooses to allow suffering, then that looks like pure evil.

Your philosophy then is let's have more of the same...a God who rectifies things for the moment whilst us free thinking people continually keep testing his patients. It's all about us living in peace and harmony by choice and that choice is supported by a wonderful science...not to mention that many who run things today are guilty of some pretty atrocious acts...that demand justice.

My Biblical reasoning, tells me, that what we are going through and what is about to descend upon us is not dissimilar from things that have happened on other life supporting planets and that this method of reconciliation with our God a tried and tested method with the most efficient results...after all Satan was kicked out of Heaven because of his nastiness.

 

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« Reply #296 on: September 07, 2018, 07:56:59 PM »
Your philosophy then is let's have more of the same...a God who rectifies things for the moment whilst us free thinking people continually keep testing his patients. It's all about us living in peace and harmony by choice and that choice is supported by a wonderful science...not to mention that many who run things today are guilty of some pretty atrocious acts...that demand justice.

My Biblical reasoning, tells me, that what we are going through and what is about to descend upon us is not dissimilar from things that have happened on other life supporting planets and that this method of reconciliation with our God a tried and tested method with the most efficient results...after all Satan was kicked out of Heaven because of his nastiness.

Once again you reveal yourself a fraud; by misrepresention and distortion you evade any honest engagement with people, this seems your only modus operandi.  No, my philosophy is not 'more of the same', that is your misrepresentation. I pointed out that you do not have the power to save people, but a God could and a God, if he has the power to kick Satan out of Heaven would also have the power to eliminate Satan.  This flows from the definition of God.  But he chooses not to, so he chooses to continue to tolerate evil to be inflicted on this world.  You make no sense.

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« Reply #297 on: September 07, 2018, 08:45:25 PM »
The catastrophes that have already taken place justify my position...The Jewish round-up through world war 2...the mass turning away of peoples from their homelands, now, as we speak...the atrocious genetic mal-functions in our health...The world that is forming and fashioning behind closed curtains right now....There is no end to the chaos, not ignoring all the flooding and land disturbances that are caused by the approach of God's Judgement tool. Satan has a lot to answer for and Almighty God has told us how it will happen...It will be by virtue of a nasty global impact which we can be spared from if we follow righteous laws...don't blame me, Jesus Christ, or Almighty God because you refuse  to listen...and I have been particularly active, here, trying to save you.


   

You're trying to save us?
You'll be trying till you sbuff it, then, with absolutely no success whatsoever.
As a Christian, I can absolutely guarantee this.
Salvation comes through Christ, and Him alone, and through no other.
That you have  the audacity to clsim this authority is a breathtaking example of your warped - antichristian theology.
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Re: The Living-Cell
« Reply #298 on: September 07, 2018, 10:18:27 PM »
Nick, there's a big difference between knowing something is a true fact and believing something to be a true fact.

You really do have difficulty being able to tell the difference between fact and fiction Nick, why's that?

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« Reply #299 on: September 07, 2018, 11:01:57 PM »

Many people have come to the realization that it is an electrical universe with a different set of laws that ride on top of current scientific laws. Jesus Christ knew it too and this is how we can all have a spiritual nature hewn from an indestructable energy that is all around us all of the time. You don't want it, that is fine by me...the awkward and the difficult wouldn't enjoy a science built upon truth and harmony anyway...but to say that no one can save another by relaying their support for their saviour is disregarding Jesus's instructions to his faithful. Jesus Christ lived, died, and was resurrected showing us this science...the product of the lead scientist over the entire universe...who says he will judge everyone according to their works and that he will not raise a hand to save those whom he decrees evil. Evil, here, is those who refuse to recognise righteousness in the accurate way Jesus taught us.