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Re: The Living-Cell
« Reply #300 on: September 07, 2018, 11:15:39 PM »
Many people have come to the realization that it is an electrical universe with a different set of laws that ride on top of current scientific laws.

Don't think so, Nick: I think this is just you in the main.

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Jesus Christ knew it too and this is how we can all have a spiritual nature hewn from an indestructable energy that is all around us all of the time. You don't want it, that is fine by me...the awkward and the difficult wouldn't enjoy a science built upon truth and harmony anyway...but to say that no one can save another by relaying their support for their saviour is disregarding Jesus's instructions to his faithful. Jesus Christ lived, died, and was resurrected showing us this science...the product of the lead scientist over the entire universe...who says he will judge everyone according to their works and that he will not raise a hand to save those whom he decrees evil. Evil, here, is those who refuse to recognise righteousness in the accurate way Jesus taught us.

Leaving aside the problems involving anecdotal accounts of what Jesus is claimed to have said it seems clear, and Anchorman has been patiently pointing this out to you, that Jesus said nothing whatsoever about 'science'.

Nice of you to regard me as being evil: funnily enough nobody has ever noticed before, or if they have they haven't mentioned it.   

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Re: The Living-Cell
« Reply #301 on: September 07, 2018, 11:53:51 PM »
Don't think so, Nick: I think this is just you in the main.

Leaving aside the problems involving anecdotal accounts of what Jesus is claimed to have said it seems clear, and Anchorman has been patiently pointing this out to you, that Jesus said nothing whatsoever about 'science'.

Nice of you to regard me as being evil: funnily enough nobody has ever noticed before, or if they have they haven't mentioned it.

As an English man we do often have to make the sign of a cross at Scotsmen, just in case.

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Re: The Living-Cell
« Reply #302 on: September 08, 2018, 06:50:22 AM »
Don't think so, Nick: I think this is just you in the main.

Leaving aside the problems involving anecdotal accounts of what Jesus is claimed to have said it seems clear, and Anchorman has been patiently pointing this out to you, that Jesus said nothing whatsoever about 'science'.

Nice of you to regard me as being evil: funnily enough nobody has ever noticed before, or if they have they haven't mentioned it.

We are all sinners and all have a propensity towards evil actions unless we make a righteous stand. But sin is linked to our genetic health which is linked to our electric/spiritual health and which can inflict genetic harm down the generations so it is wise to listen to Jesus as a science...a righteous science, which means that by sharing our spiritual nature in an upbuilding way we give our genetic health time to recover...you see...cancer erupts because we ignore our spiritual/electric health. Jesus Christ didn't have to mention the word science it is implied in everything he said and did. Turning water into wine...walking on water...bringing the dead back to life...his own resurrection, was all built around a scientific knowledge which is still too advanced for us, but the clues are all in the Holy Bible and by following Jesus Christ as accurately as possible we are living that science.


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Re: The Living-Cell
« Reply #303 on: September 08, 2018, 07:14:26 AM »
We are all sinners and all have a propensity towards evil actions unless we make a righteous stand.

Or we manage any such propensities and decide to behave ourselves: just thinking is sufficient, unless you are just applying 'righteous stand' to what most people do anyway whether or not they are religious.

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But sin is linked to our genetic health which is linked to our electric/spiritual health and which can inflict genetic harm down the generations so it is wise to listen to Jesus as a science...a righteous science, which means that by sharing our spiritual nature in an upbuilding way we give our genetic health time to recover...you see...cancer erupts because we ignore our spiritual/electric health. Jesus Christ didn't have to mention the word science it is implied in everything he said and did.

I've yet to be advised by any medic that any medical problems I've had involved either electricity or something spiritual.

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Turning water into wine...walking on water...bringing the dead back to life...his own resurrection, was all built around a scientific knowledge which is still too advanced for us, but the clues are all in the Holy Bible and by following Jesus Christ as accurately as possible we are living that science.

All of which could be propaganda for Jesus and simply not factually true: how have you excluded the risks of mistakes or lies being behind these stories? You could be 'following' a lie, Nick.

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Re: The Living-Cell
« Reply #304 on: September 08, 2018, 07:30:14 AM »
Many people have come to the realization that it is an electrical universe with a different set of laws that ride on top of current scientific laws. Jesus Christ knew it too and this is how we can all have a spiritual nature hewn from an indestructable energy that is all around us all of the time. You don't want it, that is fine by me...the awkward and the difficult wouldn't enjoy a science built upon truth and harmony anyway...but to say that no one can save another by relaying their support for their saviour is disregarding Jesus's instructions to his faithful. Jesus Christ lived, died, and was resurrected showing us this science...the product of the lead scientist over the entire universe...who says he will judge everyone according to their works and that he will not raise a hand to save those whom he decrees evil. Evil, here, is those who refuse to recognise righteousness in the accurate way Jesus taught us.

Many of us have come to realise you are a fraud, claiming to follow Jesus' example of kindness and compassion whilst indulging in evasion, misrepresentation, exaggerations and distortions.  This is all a silly little game for you, pretending to sincere debate which you have no inclination for whatsoever it seems.

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Re: The Living-Cell
« Reply #305 on: September 08, 2018, 07:38:44 AM »
Or we manage any such propensities and decide to behave ourselves: just thinking is sufficient, unless you are just applying 'righteous stand' to what most people do anyway whether or not they are religious.

I've yet to be advised by any medic that any medical problems I've had involved either electricity or something spiritual.

All of which could be propaganda for Jesus and simply not factually true: how have you excluded the risks of mistakes or lies being behind these stories? You could be 'following' a lie, Nick.

I'm following a truth proven to me on many fronts. I could give many accounts of what I'm saying but it's unnecessary to a dismissive audience. An audience who say they want to talk about Jesus Christ but with a distinct bias towards condemning him. All I'm doing is planting the seeds of an overwhelming truth that everyone with any comprehension of what is going on in the world today would grasp with both hands. That truth is that it is Almighty God's spiritual universe...every scientific law must obey God's laws before it can obey any other law and that Jesus Christ taught us those laws as they appertain to our health and welfare. The other part of Revelation which explains what is going to happen in our near future you can take or leave...but it won't stop it taking place and there is only one answer...It's all in the Holy Bible.



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Re: The Living-Cell
« Reply #306 on: September 08, 2018, 07:48:03 AM »
Many of us have come to realise you are a fraud, claiming to follow Jesus' example of kindness and compassion whilst indulging in evasion, misrepresentation, exaggerations and distortions.  This is all a silly little game for you, pretending to sincere debate which you have no inclination for whatsoever it seems.

People who don't follow any Biblical principles like reading it from time to time might make such an assertion...but it won't stop the science that lies behind the teaching of Jesus Christ from working. We don't even have to go to church because iniquity is behind much of their teaching. Even you can see that if one person follows the code laid down by Jesus Christ then the world becomes a marginally better place and all those who follow his guidence are in for a share of a much better place. This is why it is the meek who will inherit the Earth...it is an attitude induced by righteousness.


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Re: The Living-Cell
« Reply #307 on: September 08, 2018, 07:54:32 AM »
People who don't follow any Biblical principles like reading it from time to time might make such an assertion...but it won't stop the science that lies behind the teaching of Jesus Christ from working. We don't even have to go to church because iniquity is behind much of their teaching. Even you can see that if one person follows the code laid down by Jesus Christ then the world becomes a marginally better place and all those who follow his guidence are in for a share of a much better place. This is why it is the meek who will inherit the Earth...it is an attitude induced by righteousness.

So why don't you follow it then ? make the world a marginally better place by engaging sincerely with others, show the humility to learn from others.

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Re: The Living-Cell
« Reply #308 on: September 08, 2018, 08:15:08 AM »
So why don't you follow it then ? make the world a marginally better place by engaging sincerely with others, show the humility to learn from others.

I would suggest that revealing the science to you that has been revealed to me is obeying those principles in bucket loads. I know that it is easy to dismiss something that is hidden from view so I have repeated it often even though you are mostly dismissive. I have told you how to be saved from the greatest threat this planet has been subjected to since its inception and I have shown you there is a greater authority over all those who have claimed squatters rights on this planet and who will shortly be evicted...it's all in the Holy Bible...what I can't do is save you from yourselves...that is between you and Jesus Christ.


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Re: The Living-Cell
« Reply #309 on: September 08, 2018, 08:19:58 AM »
I would suggest that revealing the science to you that has been revealed to me is obeying those principles in bucket loads. I know that it is easy to dismiss something that is hidden from view so I have repeated it often even though you are mostly dismissive. I have told you how to be saved from the greatest threat this planet has been subjected to since its inception and I have shown you there is a greater authority over all those who have claimed squatters rights on this planet and who will shortly be evicted...it's all in the Holy Bible...what I can't do is save you from yourselves...that is between you and Jesus Christ.

We have a right to be dismissive of people who habitually fail to back up their claims;  false prophets and all that.

What threat is the planet facing ?

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Re: The Living-Cell
« Reply #310 on: September 08, 2018, 08:29:10 AM »
I would suggest that revealing the science to you that has been revealed to me is obeying those principles in bucket loads. I know that it is easy to dismiss something that is hidden from view so I have repeated it often even though you are mostly dismissive. I have told you how to be saved from the greatest threat this planet has been subjected to since its inception and I have shown you there is a greater authority over all those who have claimed squatters rights on this planet and who will shortly be evicted...it's all in the Holy Bible...what I can't do is save you from yourselves...that is between you and Jesus Christ.


It is very easy to dismiss people like you who make stupid unsupportable claims.
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« Reply #311 on: September 08, 2018, 08:47:49 AM »

It is very easy to dismiss people like you who make stupid unsupportable claims.
That's rich, coming from the queen of the bare, unsupported "imo" statement!
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Re: The Living-Cell
« Reply #312 on: September 08, 2018, 08:59:19 AM »

There is a Holy Bible to support my claims  and what it is telling me is that we can harness an harvest a wonderful energy that can pass along to a new vessel after death...until we can get the science of everlasting life right...but it requires special instructions as delivered to us by Jesus Christ's accurate teaching. Those that don't want it won't get it...but that is up to them.


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« Reply #313 on: September 08, 2018, 09:08:55 AM »
There is a Holy Bible to support my claims  and what it is telling me is that we can harness an harvest a wonderful energy that can pass along to a new vessel after death...until we can get the science of everlasting life right...but it requires special instructions as delivered to us by Jesus Christ's accurate teaching. Those that don't want it won't get it...but that is up to them.

Your interpretation of the Bible is unique! The Bible is cannot be used as any sort of evidence to back up your nonsense.
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Re: The Living-Cell
« Reply #314 on: September 08, 2018, 09:23:41 AM »
Your interpretation of the Bible is unique! The Bible is cannot be used as any sort of evidence to back up your nonsense.

The choice is yours...I have delivered adequate evidence which tells you there is more to the universe than we can possibly perceive without strict and disciplined guidance. The alternative is spelt out in the Holy Bible in no uncertain terms. My job, as I see it, is bringing it to your attention so that you can have a choice based on the Biblical facts rather than the often iniquitous, false, and very damaging alternatives. Jesus died for us so that we can see the seriousness in his teaching, not to mention the wonderful science in his resurrection.




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Re: The Living-Cell
« Reply #315 on: September 08, 2018, 09:55:23 AM »
Don't think so, Nick: I think this is just you in the main.

Leaving aside the problems involving anecdotal accounts of what Jesus is claimed to have said it seems clear, and Anchorman has been patiently pointing this out to you, that Jesus said nothing whatsoever about 'science'.

Nice of you to regard me as being evil: funnily enough nobody has ever noticed before, or if they have they haven't mentioned it.   



OK, it's that damn forked tail....I told you about that.
It's a dead giveaway.
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Re: The Living-Cell
« Reply #316 on: September 08, 2018, 10:05:00 AM »


OK, it's that damn forked tail....I told you about that.
It's a dead giveaway.

I see: I might need to invest in some special trousers.

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« Reply #317 on: September 08, 2018, 10:06:54 AM »
Or we manage any such propensities and decide to behave ourselves: just thinking is sufficient, unless you are just applying 'righteous stand' to what most people do anyway whether or not they are religious.

I've yet to be advised by any medic that any medical problems I've had involved either electricity or something spiritual.

All of which could
People who don't follow any Biblical principles like reading it from time to time might make such an assertion...but it won't stop the science that lies behind the teaching of Jesus Christ from working. We don't even have to go to church because iniquity is behind much of their teaching. Even you can see that if one person follows the code laid down by Jesus Christ then the world becomes a marginally better place and all those who follow his guidence are in for a share of a much better place. This is why it is the meek who will inherit the Earth...it is an attitude induced by righteousness.

 
be propaganda for Jesus and simply not factually true: how have you excluded the risks of mistakes or lies being behind these stories? You could be 'following' a lie, Nick.
   





Utter gargage.
Not only utter garbage, but directly in opposittion to that Bible - even the cat litter known as the NWT - you claim to read.
Even a cursory look at both Acts and the Pauline letters should tell you that Christians - that's those who accept what the Bible says about Christ - God incarnate - should assemble together. Paul even takes it as read that we should do so.
Does that mean all was sweetness and light in the first century Church? Of course not! Anyone who has even glanved through the New Testament - and even Revelation, by the way, will se otherwise - Scripture makes no effort to hide it.
To say that believers should not assemble in whatever church they think is fitting for them is in direct contravention of Scripture and against God's command.

You can shove any fanciful pseudoscientific tripe into your somewhat vague, inattested, interpretation of Scripture, but your assertion that you don't need to go to church means you don't need to be part of the Body - and therefore, whatever you follow, NM, it is not Christ.
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Re: The Living-Cell
« Reply #318 on: September 08, 2018, 10:09:35 AM »
Bringing the topic back on theme we must remember that every atom has an energy built within it and that the living-cell is very much aligned with atoms. These living-cells work in two parts. They come together, perform a repeatable pattern of behaviour, replicating what is contained within the mother cell, then leave two daughter cells in their wake...a chemical composition which has their own chemical functions to perform has been created. The point I am making is that this behaviour can only be performed by electrical components which generate an electrical force. They must be invisible because they have never been seen but their pattern of behaviour has been seen, and my explanation, as gleaned from the Holy Bible, is the only satisfactory one. The instigator of cell replication has to be part atoms...incomplete atoms that thrive electrically when they come into contact with each other just as mating couples do. They separate after this invisible mating has been performed and reach out to adjoining cells and continue the process with different partners but the net result is the same. It is the energy they generate which is of particular importance because this energy is used within the body as a nutrient for all our genetic functions and it is very wise not to waste it...but use it efficiently so that our genetic health stays on target and doesn't misfire as many of us have experienced in serious and horrible ways. Now if that offends anyone I will say sorry  now.

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« Reply #319 on: September 08, 2018, 10:22:06 AM »
Bringing the topic back on theme we must remember that every atom has an energy built within it and that the living-cell is very much aligned with atoms. These living-cells work in two parts. They come together, perform a repeatable pattern of behaviour, replicating what is contained within the mother cell, then leave two daughter cells in their wake...a chemical composition which has their own chemical functions to perform has been created. The point I am making is that this behaviour can only be performed by electrical components which generate an electrical force. They must be invisible because they have never been seen but their pattern of behaviour has been seen, and my explanation, as gleaned from the Holy Bible, is the only satisfactory one. The instigator of cell replication has to be part atoms...incomplete atoms that thrive electrically when they come into contact with each other just as mating couples do. They separate after this invisible mating has been performed and reach out to adjoining cells and continue the process with different partners but the net result is the same. It is the energy they generate which is of particular importance because this energy is used within the body as a nutrient for all our genetic functions and it is very wise not to waste it...but use it efficiently so that our genetic health stays on target and doesn't misfire as many of us have experienced in serious and horrible ways. Now if that offends anyone I will say sorry  now.




Do you know how insulting and vile this is, NM?
Sin has diddly squat to do with Genetics - indeed the Lord Jesus specifically ruled out a parent's sin as aa cause for disease - and if you HAD read Scripture accurately, you'd be able to poiny it out for yourself.
I'll give you timer before I post it.
Meantime, do you realise how many disabled Christians there are?
All of us committed to Christ, sinners saved by grace?
Some with chronic disease, others as a result of accident - and a few as a rssult of genetics.
We would happily talkw ith you about this tripe of yours.
I challenge you to an open meeting - here and now; will you meet with a joint group of Torch and CA )Totch are Blind Christians, CA are Christians with disabilities)
We have branches throughout the UK - I can happily set up a meeting neear you, wherever you live, as you won't be more than twenty fife miles from one if you live in an urbab or semi rural are.
Will you propound your 'theories' todisabled Christians face to face, some of whom, NM, are REAL scientists?
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Re: The Living-Cell
« Reply #320 on: September 08, 2018, 10:29:40 AM »
be propaganda for Jesus and simply not factually true: how have you excluded the risks of mistakes or lies being behind these stories? You could be 'following' a lie, Nick.
   





Utter gargage.
Not only utter garbage, but directly in opposittion to that Bible - even the cat litter known as the NWT - you claim to read.
Even a cursory look at both Acts and the Pauline letters should tell you that Christians - that's those who accept what the Bible says about Christ - God incarnate - should assemble together. Paul even takes it as read that we should do so.
Does that mean all was sweetness and light in the first century Church? Of course not! Anyone who has even glanved through the New Testament - and even Revelation, by the way, will se otherwise - Scripture makes no effort to hide it.
To say that believers should not assemble in whatever church they think is fitting for them is in direct contravention of Scripture and against God's command.

You can shove any fanciful pseudoscientific tripe into your somewhat vague, inattested, interpretation of Scripture, but your assertion that you don't need to go to church means you don't need to be part of the Body - and therefore, whatever you follow, NM, it is not Christ.

It's true that Jesus encourages those who follow his word accurately to come together but these are true followers not followers of iniquity...remember what Jesus said about iniquity. Your remarks about the JW's aren't very Christian either, not to mention what you say about me...but no matter...when Jesus tells us of all the slanderous remarks made against him and tells us to expect much the same I just take it on the chin. There are so many important messages concerning this day and age written in the Holy Bible, and in particular Revelation...Jesus says that he sits at the right hand of God until the appointed time and all the Biblical signs are saying that that appointed time isn't so very far off. Everything I say is to help you with your salvation.


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Re: The Living-Cell
« Reply #321 on: September 08, 2018, 10:42:12 AM »

Do you know how insulting and vile this is, NM?
Sin has diddly squat to do with Genetics - indeed the Lord Jesus specifically ruled out a parent's sin as aa cause for disease - and if you HAD read Scripture accurately, you'd be able to poiny it out for yourself.
I'll give you timer before I post it.
Meantime, do you realise how many disabled Christians there are?
All of us committed to Christ, sinners saved by grace?
Some with chronic disease, others as a result of accident - and a few as a rssult of genetics.
We would happily talkw ith you about this tripe of yours.
I challenge you to an open meeting - here and now; will you meet with a joint group of Torch and CA )Totch are Blind Christians, CA are Christians with disabilities)
We have branches throughout the UK - I can happily set up a meeting neear you, wherever you live, as you won't be more than twenty fife miles from one if you live in an urbab or semi rural are.
Will you propound your 'theories' todisabled Christians face to face, some of whom, NM, are REAL scientists?

By sin, death came into the world. Well I've yet to find anyone who dies from anything but a genetic dysfunction of the heart.

Read the Holy Bible again and see the wonderful attributes that Jesus promises the faithful, including everlasting life. You don't seem to accept that Jesus Christ knew all about spiritual matters and laid the blame of our health problems at our own door and those that manipulate our health by evil...or that we carry the sins of our fathers and our forefathers. It's time to realise that the Holy Bible is a serious book of facts and not a mythological, take it or leave it, book of intellectual contrivances.

If it is an electrical/spiritual universe and Almighty God and Jesus Christ say it is, then the cure of all our health problems can be deduced from the Holy Bible...and my experience of factory life in the mid-stream of evil machinations known politely as 'management' supports my reasoning up to the hilt.

 

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Re: The Living-Cell
« Reply #322 on: September 08, 2018, 10:46:11 AM »
The choice is yours...I have delivered adequate evidence which tells you there is more to the universe than we can possibly perceive without strict and disciplined guidance. The alternative is spelt out in the Holy Bible in no uncertain terms. My job, as I see it, is bringing it to your attention so that you can have a choice based on the Biblical facts rather than the often iniquitous, false, and very damaging alternatives. Jesus died for us so that we can see the seriousness in his teaching, not to mention the wonderful science in his resurrection.

I don't think god, if it exists, would look favourably on someone who tells lies. You are making a false statement by saying you have provided adequate evidence, when you have provided none whatsoever.   
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Re: The Living-Cell
« Reply #323 on: September 08, 2018, 10:49:27 AM »
I don't think god, if it exists, would look favourably on someone who tells lies. You are making a false statement by saying you have provided adequate evidence, when you have provided none whatsoever.

I think your opening sentence tells us all we need to know about where you stand in these matters.

 

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Re: The Living-Cell
« Reply #324 on: September 08, 2018, 10:57:05 AM »
I think your opening sentence tells us all we need to know about where you stand in these matters.

Each post you make shows us what a less than truthful person you are, who is preaching ridiculous  falsehoods. GET REAL NM, see yourself as most others see you.
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