The Living-Cell

[Dicky Underpants]

You see, heavily processed foods might look similar, taste similar, even, but they are far different from the nourishing foods of yesteryear when part-atoms abounded in them. You've got so much to learn.

People never got ill and died in them thar days, did they?

But please (as requested) tell us what 'part-atoms' are. We're all agog.

[ippy]

Thanks for that Shaker...but you too are mistaken. It isn't that you are wrong it is that you have taken a secondary cause and called it the primary cause. The primary cause is the electrical part-atoms that are implanted at conception. This is why we get the runt of the litter when there aren't sufficient part-atoms left to finish the process...the same happens with humans and why so many weaker genetic humans are formed. But don't worry...it can be repaired...but it will mean living forever when we get it right.

I suppose if you're happy in your small minded make believe little world? The only thing that bothers me about silly ideas like yours are inclined to be passed on to very young children by people such as yourself Nick as though they're facts.

Dreamers like you Nick wouldn't bother me at all you could have as mad as any idea you'd wish to have, if it wasn't for the teaching of your idiotic make believe lies to young and vulnerable small children.

Tell me Nick why do you think the bible serves as evidence for the things the bible refers to when this would be considered as potty even by the standards of your fellow posters on this forum, those that hold a religious belief of one kind or another?

Oh yes have you ever thought about writing a something like a post that could be considered to have come from a normal person? You should try that one Nick and make it soon.

Commiserations Nick, ippy.

[Anchorman]

I will reply with the same response as before...the evils of genetics are a process of change due to not understanding the electric/spiritual laws that control them. A cancer cell isn't a cancer cell until it has been denied a healthy flow of nervous/spiritual/electric strength over a long period of time and therefore demands this strength from other surrounding cells. Genetics thus weakened will and do genetically misfire and cause many problems. The best way to tackle this problem is via accurate Christian teaching whereby we harness our spiritual strength and retain sufficient energy for our replicating living cells to regain some of their genetic composure. By soothing and calming our genetics we are complying with the teaching of Jesus Christ. I have seen it work in a factory environment but it is for those who work in these health fields to put the science to the test and in so doing do themselves a big favour as well.

   

Eatever tripr you are teaching, it is NOT - by any stretch of the imagination - Christian.
Nor is it scientific.
Nor, for that matter, is it any form of either.
Indeed, it insults those who try to defend out faith - and the fact that you have not the courage to stand before a group of Christians and defend your position says all we need to know about you, NM.
You're a busted flush.

[Roses]

I suppose if you're happy in your small minded make believe little world? The only thing that bothers me about silly ideas like yours are inclined to be passed on to very young children by people such as yourself Nick as though they're facts.

Dreamers like you Nick wouldn't bother me at all you could have as mad as any idea you'd wish to have, if it wasn't for the teaching of your idiotic make believe lies to young and vulnerable small children.

Tell me Nick why do you think the bible serves as evidence for the things the bible refers to when this would be considered as potty even by the standards of your fellow posters on this forum, those that hold a religious belief of one kind or another?

Oh yes have you ever thought about writing a something like a post that could be considered to have come from a normal person? You should try that one Nick and make it soon.

Commiserations Nick, ippy.

One can only hope that no children or vulnerable people are in NM's orbit. I suspect they aren't otherwise he wouldn't spend so long serving up his drivel on R&E.

[ippy]

One can only hope that no children or vulnerable people are in NM's orbit. I suspect they aren't otherwise he wouldn't spend so long serving up his drivel on R&E.

Yes L R, teaching this nonsense to the young, is the thing that really makes me angry, if they didn't insist on spreading their rubbish to the very young, I would find religious people that much easier to live with as though they were more a part of the general community instead of a potty bunch of offshoots.

The bit the religious believers try to not to understand is about this view is the specific age group I'm referring to, I mean those children the very young up to seven years of age where on average after those years they acquire the ability to challenge before that age they, religious believers, start with the usual, oh it's only a nativity story etc etc as though it's so small a matter which if that were all, it would be, along with the St something or other school name with a whacking great cross nailed on to the outside of the school a daily act of worship mainly christian in character and on and on.

It does get to me from time to time when you see how they keep on with these incremental intros to their dogmas, this can be so disheartening when I'm an observer and am obliged by social pressures to just remain a silent bystander, these standardised methods they use are so subtly devious and underhand.

Oh yes, by the way there's not very much about religion I like and how those that are in it behave, just in case you hadn't noticed.

Regards ippy.

[Shaker]

One can only hope that no children or vulnerable people are in NM's orbit. I suspect they aren't otherwise he wouldn't spend so long serving up his drivel on R&E.

"A fool's voice is known by multitude of words."

(Ecc. 5:3).

[SteveH]

NM may be bonkers, but he is unfailingly polite to everybody. Others could do with following his example.

[torridon]

I will reply with the same response as before...the evils of genetics are a process of change due to not understanding the electric/spiritual laws that control them. A cancer cell isn't a cancer cell until it has been denied a healthy flow of nervous/spiritual/electric strength over a long period of time and therefore demands this strength from other surrounding cells. Genetics thus weakened will and do genetically misfire and cause many problems. The best way to tackle this problem is via accurate Christian teaching whereby we harness our spiritual strength and retain sufficient energy for our replicating living cells to regain some of their genetic composure. By soothing and calming our genetics we are complying with the teaching of Jesus Christ. I have seen it work in a factory environment but it is for those who work in these health fields to put the science to the test and in so doing do themselves a big favour as well.
   

Irresponsible nonsense.  I don't believe you succeeded in reducing cancer rates in a factory environment by converting the workers to christianity as you seem to be insinuating.

Cancers don't grow because cells have been denied 'electric' strength. If cells are denied nutrition then they die.  Cancers arise due to the build up of mutations that disrupt the processes of replication.  You cannot soothe genetics, it makes no sense.  What you can do is try to live a healthy lifestyle eq avoid unnecessary exposure to toxins which could lead to cell mutations.

It can be the case be that healthy lifestyles can go hand in hand with religious practice; Mormons spring to mind, I believe there are studies concluding that practicing mormons suffer lower cancer rates than the general population, so would the lesson be - convert to Mormonism in order to reduce your risk of cancer ?

[torridon]

NM may be bonkers, but he is unfailingly polite to everybody. Others could do with following his example.

There is nothing polite about misrepresenting other people's views as is his general modus operandi. It is disingenuous arrogance.

[Roses]

NM may be bonkers, but he is unfailingly polite to everybody. Others could do with following his example.

I take it you are talking about yourself, as you often seem to have forgotten the meaning of the word, 'polite'.

[NicholasMarks]

It doesn't matter how much you buck and holler...you can't escape the single truth about Jesus Christ, that be lived and died and was resurrected and as everything has a science attached to it, then science was involved here. Not the normal, everyday science but a science that starts with the single premise that all the mass in the universe is the reconfiguration of a single, invisible, superabundant, dynamic energy. I have told you how it was reconfigured into mass. It is the result of huge dense clouds of this stuff being sent hurtling out into space at high-speed and that any hole in such a spiralling cloud creates gravity, the higgs, and the imploding force of part-atoms so that all science uncovered today has a structure and that the author of the Holy Bible introduces it to us and literally owns that science so that every point made known through the Holy Bible is true, honest, upbuilding, and full of promise. Righteousness is God's science...his word...made flesh by Jesus Christ...and it occurs to me that when you get to the root of all science you have an insight into all sciences...That isn't my fault, that is the fault of Almighty God and his science. If you can't understand then perhaps it's best just to repent and follow Jesus Christ accurately...because our own indestructible, spiritual nature obeys God's science whether we like it or not.

[Roses]

It doesn't matter how much you buck and holler...you can't escape the single truth about Jesus Christ, that be lived and died and was resurrected and as everything has a science attached to it, then science was involved here. Not the normal, everyday science but a science that starts with the single premise that all the mass in the universe is the reconfiguration of a single, invisible, superabundant, dynamic energy. I have told you how it was reconfigured into mass. It is the result of huge dense clouds of this stuff being sent hurtling out into space at high-speed and thet any hole in such a spiralling cloud creates gravity, the higgs, and the imploding force of part-atoms so that all science uncovered today has a structure and that the author of the Holy Bible introduces it to us and literally owns that science so that every point made known throughthe Holy Bible is true, honest, upbuilding, and full of promise. Righteousness is God's science...his word...made flesh by Jesus Christ...and it occurs to me that when you get to the root of all science you have an insight into all sciences...That isn't my fault, that is the fault of Almighty God and his science. If you can't understand then perhaps It's best just to repent and follow Jesus Christ accurately...because our own indestructible, spiritual nature obeys God's science whether we like it or not.

Jesus probably existed and therefore lived and died, however there is no evidence he came back from the dead, so that is not a 'truth. There is nothing, which resembles science in the Bible, you are convincing no one with your daft spurious claims.

[Gordon]

It doesn't matter how much you buck and holler...you can't escape the single truth about Jesus Christ, that be lived and died and was resurrected...

I count three truth claims there and not just one: that Jesus lived is probably true, that he died would be certainly true if we accept he did live, but that he was resurrected is an anecdotal claim that would at the very least require the risks of human artifice to be excluded: have you done this yet?
 

...and as everything has a science attached to it, then science was involved here. Not the normal, everyday science but a science that starts with the single premise that all the mass in the universe is the reconfiguration of a single, invisible, superabundant, dynamic energy. I have told you how it was reconfigured into mass. It is the result of huge dense clouds of this stuff being sent hurtling out into space at high-speed and that any hole in such a spiralling cloud creates gravity, the higgs, and the imploding force of part-atoms so that all science uncovered today has a structure and that the author of the Holy Bible introduces it to us and literally owns that science so that every point made known through the Holy Bible is true, honest, upbuilding, and full of promise. Righteousness is God's science...his word...made flesh by Jesus Christ...and it occurs to me that when you get to the root of all science you have an insight into all sciences...That isn't my fault, that is the fault of Almighty God and his science. If you can't understand then perhaps it's best just to repent and follow Jesus Christ accurately...because our own indestructible, spiritual nature obeys God's science whether we like it or not.

None of which is 'science' as most reasonable people understanding the term.

[NicholasMarks]

Jesus probably existed and therefore lived and died, however there is no evidence he came back from the dead, so that is not a 'truth. There is nothing, which resembles science in the Bible, you are convincing no one with your daft spurious claims.

Nothing I will say will convince you that the Holy Bible is a book of science written by a very advanced author who has your best interests at heart...but you aren't the only person in this world. Many, usually at dire times,  turn to him for help. Times when the selfish, the greedy and the spiteful are whooping  and laughing in the faces of all that distress...well...it is wise for us all to know that Almighty God is watching and waiting for the time when all issues of injustice, unfairness,, and evil are swept away in one fell swoop, in the twinkling of an eye. He tells us how it will happen, the signs to look for before it does, and how best to protect ourselves. In an all electric/spiritual universe I prefer to believe the highest authority in that universe rather than those who just keep saying to me...'I'm alright Jack'...because nothing could be further from the truth.

[Gordon]

Nothing I will say will convince you that the Holy Bible is a book of science written by a very advanced author who has your best interests at heart...but you aren't the only person in this world. Many, usually at dire times,  turn to him for help.

Other options for help and support are available.

Times when the selfish, the greedy and the spiteful are whooping  and laughing in the faces of all that distress...well...it is wise for us all to know that Almighty God is watching and waiting for the time when all issues of injustice, unfairness,, and evil are swept away in one fell swoop, in the twinkling of an eye. He tells us how it will happen, the signs to look for before it does, and how best to protect ourselves. In an all electric/spiritual universe I prefer to believe the highest authority in that universe rather than those who just keep saying to me...'I'm alright Jack'...because nothing could be further from the truth.

The above is no more than rambling hyperbole.

[NicholasMarks]

I count three truth claims there and not just one: that Jesus lived is probably true, that he died would be certainly true if we accept he did live, but that he was resurrected is an anecdotal claim that would at the very least require the risks of human artifice to be excluded: have you done this yet?
 
None of which is 'science' as most reasonable people understanding the term.

By your own standards there is no need to believe what you are saying above what I am saying. But those who know righteousness know there is something very deep, very special and wonderful in Jesus Christ's teaching which defies our understanding...and here it is...that behind Jesus Christ's teaching is a wonderful science. You can all deny that science as much as you want but that doesn't stop that science ticking away in the background nor does it stop the forthcoming events which are happening now in their milder form. My science, which, of course, is in truth God's science is built on top of all the investigation and calculations of modern science and only varies by the fact that it gives total authority to Almighty God and his son, Jesus Christ. It's called righteousness and every Bible student knows that Almighty God will not deviate from righteousness.

[Gordon]

By your own standards there is no need to believe what you are saying above what I am saying.

I've no idea what point you are trying to make here.

But those who know righteousness know there is something very deep, very special and wonderful in Jesus Christ's teaching which defies our understanding...and here it is...that behind Jesus Christ's teaching is a wonderful science.

That may be their personal faith-based belief - but they could be wrong: right?

You can all deny that science as much as you want but that doesn't stop that science ticking away in the background nor does it stop the forthcoming events which are happening now in their milder form. My science, which, of course, is in truth God's science is built on top of all the investigation and calculations of modern science and only varies by the fact that it gives total authority to Almighty God and his son, Jesus Christ. It's called righteousness and every Bible student knows that Almighty God will not deviate from righteousness.

I'm not denying science, Nick, since what you are peddling here ain't science and you ain't a scientist (even though you declare yourself to be one).

[Roses]

Nothing I will say will convince you that the Holy Bible is a book of science written by a very advanced author who has your best interests at heart...but you aren't the only person in this world. Many, usually at dire times,  turn to him for help. Times when the selfish, the greedy and the spiteful are whooping  and laughing in the faces of all that distress...well...it is wise for us all to know that Almighty God is watching and waiting for the time when all issues of injustice, unfairness,, and evil are swept away in one fell swoop, in the twinkling of an eye. He tells us how it will happen, the signs to look for before it does, and how best to protect ourselves. In an all electric/spiritual universe I prefer to believe the highest authority in that universe rather than those who just keep saying to me...'I'm alright Jack'...because nothing could be further from the truth.

No you are not going to convince me or most others that the Bible is a book of science, or that much of it has any credibility. You are entitled to believe your imaginative view of that book is true. However what you are not entitled to do is threaten people with consequences if they don't see it your unique way.

Have you ever managed to persuade anyone in real life that your claims are true, or do you save them for the delectation and delight of posters on R&E? 

[NicholasMarks]

I've no idea what point your are trying to make here.

That may be their personal faith-based belief - but they could be wrong: right?

I'm not denying science, Nick, since what you are peddling here ain't science and you ain't a scientist (even though you declare yourself to be one).

If you had discovered something so profound which impacted upon everyones lives, in a good way, I would say you were a scientist. None of you offer anything constructive but I'll try again because it is your health and welfare that is at stake.

If you went to a well supported pop concert or football match, carnival, or venue that draws crowds many will say the air was electric...you can't see it, it makes no sense except scientifically but it is there. It is an invisible energy source that is the product of the mass excitement of the crowd. It is in fact the mass energy produced by the individual cells replicating within us. Now, as a scientist, I am saying that to become void of this energyy can be very dangerous to us and I can quote various accounts where this is proven to be true especially where bullying is concerned. Like it or lump it the main roots of this science are contained within Jesus Christ's teaching and if we have found the force that controls our genetic health we are on to something big, indeed...and it is all supported by the accurate teaching of Jesus Christ.

I'm just scratching the surface...but that doesn't matter because of forthcoming events which will determine who is righteous and who isn't. The righteous want to live according to the rules whereby this energy source is respected and given the Holy status it deserves.

[torridon]

Nothing I will say will convince you that the Holy Bible is a book of science written by a very advanced author who has your best interests at heart....

Well, no, that would clearly be a misunderstanding.  Unlike the Qur'an, for example, the Bible is not a book of single authorship, it is a collection of ancient writings by dozens of different authors writing at different times in different countries.  Jesus did not author any of these books.  There may be many themes running through, these are the themes of the beliefs of the Hebrews of the late Bronze Age and its derivatives in Iron Age Roman Judea.  There is no science to speak of in these writings, and it is abundantly clear that authors were men of their time with an understanding of their times, which we have long since moved on from. I think it an interesting window on an ancient culture, but as a guide to science, it is a complete zero.  These people, after all, still believed in a flat earth and a geocentric cosmology, all of which we know now to be wrong.

[ippy]

Nick, you've never managed to establish this bible of yours is anything more than a work of fiction, especially the magical, mystical and superstition based parts of this bible of yours.

We know you believe it is a book of facts, but you have never been able to do anything more than assert it is a book of factual happenings, not prove the bible is a book of factual happenings.

O K Nick so where is your proof that the bible is a book of factual happenings?

Don't forget the bible doesn't prove the bible and how daft it would be to say or write as much.

Regards ippy.

 

[NicholasMarks]

Well, no, that would clearly be a misunderstanding.  Unlike the Qur'an, for example, the Bible is not a book of single authorship, it is a collection of ancient writings by dozens of different authors writing at different times in different countries.  Jesus did not author any of these books.  There may be many themes running through, these are the themes of the beliefs of the Hebrews of the late Bronze Age and its derivatives in Iron Age Roman Judea.  There is no science to speak of in these writings, and it is abundantly clear that authors were men of their time with an understanding of their times, which we have long since moved on from. I think it an interesting window on an ancient culture, but as a guide to science, it is a complete zero.  These people, after all, still believed in a flat earth and a geocentric cosmology, all of which we know now to be wrong.

You may not have noticed but the Holy Bible is the record of Almighty God talking to his prophets over a very long and sustained period...but you have to read it to know this.

[Roses]

You may not have noticed but the Holy Bible is the record of Almighty God talking to his prophets over a very long and sustained period...but you have to read it to know this.

It is a record of the human authors imagining what their version of god was thinking, you cannot prove otherwise.

[jeremyp]

You may not have noticed but the Holy Bible is the record of Almighty God talking to his prophets over a very long and sustained period...but you have to read it to know this.

I've read quite a lot of it and I know it to be the record of fallible human beings.

[NicholasMarks]

Nick, you've never managed to establish this bible of yours is anything more than a work of fiction, especially the magical, mystical and superstition based parts of this bible of yours.

We know you believe it is a book of facts, but you have never been able to do anything more than assert it is a book of factual happenings, not prove the bible is a book of factual happenings.

O K Nick so where is your proof that the bible is a book of factual happenings?

Don't forget the bible doesn't prove the bible and how daft it would be to say or write as much.

Regards ippy.

The statement that the Holy Bible doesn't prove the truth, value or existence of it's  contents is a barrier drawn up by those who refuse to accept it. In fact it is based upon a science that pulls many people together, first and foremost. It is the same science that brings all groups together...another branch of the same science and many people adhere to the mechanics of this science by manufacturing pop stars and sportsmen to magnify their images so don't say the science doesn't work. Throughout the generations many people, in their millions have tried to follow the teaching of the Holy Bible which means it's teaching repeats and repeats, over and over again, which is also an attribute of a valuable science...but it's prophesies take the biscuit. Do you know that Biblically the Jews were spread throughout the world with the clear understanding that they would be brought back to their homelands...This is just one of the signs of our times...the last days...but there are many more prophesied signs in existence today so expect God's Judgement soon.