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Re: The Living-Cell
« Reply #400 on: September 10, 2018, 12:19:43 PM »
Seb asked...what is a part-atom? Well, as a parting gift, I have decided to tell you...

To explain the replicating process of living cells I devised two invisible electric forces. The same imploding forces that all atoms contain at their core...the higgs-field. They are mass-less at birth and would have become fully functioning hydrogen atoms if they hadn't been snarched from the furnace of their birth by erupting heavier atoms being spewed out of our sun during an early solar maximum. Trillions upon trillions of them were snatched out of the star and came to planet Earth at the time of its inception as part of the accretion force that  formed the planet. Because of their imploding forces they became attached to their hydrogen relatives and went everywhere they went revolving around in the land sea and air until they began producing life. This was achieved by them invisibly coming together in pairs and performing as they have to to produce living cells. They are part of the repair process of our health and they are wasted profusely in our promiscuity.

It is important to note that the entire book of evolution is written around our need to entrap these part-atoms for our own health and welfare, bringing them into our own construction and that this principle isn't lost on the author of the Holy Bible.

I'm sure Ernest Rutherford must be spinning in his grave: if only he had your insights back in the day, Nick, instead of just doing common or garden science. Although he made significant contributions in 'splitting the atom' etc without recourse to righteousness one wonders what else he might have achieved had he been able to tap into 'your science' of righteousness.

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Re: The Living-Cell
« Reply #401 on: September 10, 2018, 12:34:43 PM »
The thing is Nick no one is trying to debunk anything you're presenting here on this thread, all we're trying to tell you is the stuff you keep on putting forward doesn't make any sense, these senseless utterances of yours debunk themselves without any help from others.

That's the trouble with successful indoctrination those involved are unable to appreciate just how indoctrinated they are.

I'll bet you can't make a reply to anyone on this thread without your reply sounding like a sermon, it really is that bad Nick.

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Do you mind?
If I preached in the style demonstratd by NM, I'd still be picking hymnals stuffed by irate congregation members up various orifaces!

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Re: The Living-Cell
« Reply #402 on: September 10, 2018, 12:41:31 PM »
No more than this...That it explains all the phases scientifically noted of the living-cell...but which scientists have missed. That it fits in beautifully with the science that everything in the universe is restructured dynamic energy which created stars and atoms, and the authority that guided me into these conclusions did so by writing the core principles into the Holy Bible and particularly within the accurate teaching of Jesus Christ.

You know what is really bizarre...that here is a virgin science that explains so much and those that need it most can ridicule and debunk it without a second glance...no wonder that Almighty God and Jesus Christ will give up on you...because they won't bend their righteous laws and the righteous depend upon this fact...not just on this planet but wherever the hand of God can be found.

 
I'm not sure you understood me Nick!
I asked for a description if a "part atom", without the fluff because the fluff is what a non-scientist would use to try to hide the fact that he doesnt know what he is talking about, scientifically.
What you gave me Nick, was fluff and only fluff.
Now this is disappointing because I wa really intersested to know what a "part atom" is.
Now all you are showing us is that you are not really a scientist because a real scientist would have done the honourable thing and given a scientific description.

Common sense therefore concludes, quite unequivocally, that you are not a scientist but that you are a fraud.
Not even a "part fraud" but a full blown one.

I wonder what Jesus would have said about frauds like you?
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Re: The Living-Cell
« Reply #403 on: September 10, 2018, 02:35:16 PM »

Oy!
Do you mind?
If I preached in the style demonstratd by NM, I'd still be picking hymnals stuffed by irate congregation members up various orifaces!

Sorry Anchor, but I thought all sermons are terminally boring, the next best thing to a cricket/golf commentary on the radizzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz____________

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Re: The Living-Cell
« Reply #404 on: September 10, 2018, 04:39:29 PM »

 My latest project is an accumulation of all the sciences i've mentioned here and it is time to concentrate on that project rather than trying to win the confidence and friendship of those who refuse to be saved...you have had your chance.

Well, good luck with that, Nick. I'm sure the world waits with baited breath. Maybe though, you should start learning something real about just one science - or even make a fresh start by learning exactly what the word science means.
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Re: The Living-Cell
« Reply #405 on: September 10, 2018, 06:53:17 PM »
Sorry Anchor, but I thought all sermons are terminally boring, the next best thing to a cricket/golf commentary on the radizzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz____________



good grief, no!
I throw some humour into the mix (it cuts down the snores).
The trick is trying to make sure they don't laugh at the serious bits.
I've sort of managed so far....
There's a first time for everything, though.
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Re: The Living-Cell
« Reply #406 on: September 11, 2018, 12:24:32 PM »


good grief, no!
I throw some humour into the mix (it cuts down the snores).
The trick is trying to make sure they don't laugh at the serious bits.
I've sort of managed so far....
There's a first time for everything, though.

Although I'm sure you're one of the good guys Anchor, but I still can't get my head around the why people still retain this god belief idea it's very foreign and odd to me.

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Re: The Living-Cell
« Reply #407 on: September 11, 2018, 03:53:20 PM »

Just imagine for a moment that my science, supported by all known science and the accurate teaching of Jesus Christ, is correct. What it means is that we are killing ourselves and turning our good health into the chaos we are living in today by refusing to adopt solid righteous teaching...but more than this, we are condemning ourselves to an eternal life trapped in the ether...until, that is, till the fiery lake of sulphur arrives and we are condemned to an eternity floating around the universe spiritually trapped forever more with no remission. That is what everyone who encourages you to follow Jesus Christ, accurately, is trying to save you from...you will never have a truer friend. The science demands that you read the Holy Bible and compare it against what I say...That means that Almighty God is the living voice of a wonderful dynamic, and indestructible energy, that built stars and atoms and the genetics that formed life and which needs special laws to harness and harvest that wonderful science into our daily lives by. It doesn't matter whether you like the idea or not it is vital to all our salvations.


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« Reply #408 on: September 11, 2018, 04:11:02 PM »
Just imagine for a moment that my science, supported by all known science and the accurate teaching of Jesus Christ, is correct. What it means is that we are killing ourselves and turning our good health into the chaos we are living in today by refusing to adopt solid righteous teaching...but more than this, we are condemning ourselves to an eternal life trapped in the ether...until, that is, till the fiery lake of sulphur arrives and we are condemned to an eternity floating around the universe spiritually trapped forever more with no remission. That is what everyone who encourages you to follow Jesus Christ, accurately, is trying to save you from...you will never have a truer friend. The science demands that you read the Holy Bible and compare it against what I say...That means that Almighty God is the living voice of a wonderful dynamic, and indestructible energy, that built stars and atoms and the genetics that formed life and which needs special laws to harness and harvest that wonderful science into our daily lives by. It doesn't matter whether you like the idea or not it is vital to all our salvations.


   

Your "science"?
What science?
Since you have provided no evidence to substantiate it, YOU'RE the one doing the imagining, NM.
We won't bother, thanks.
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Re: The Living-Cell
« Reply #409 on: September 11, 2018, 04:26:45 PM »
Just imagine for a moment that my science, supported by all known science and the accurate teaching of Jesus Christ, is correct.
"Imagine" is the accurate word Nick, given that your so called science is purely the result of an over active imagination.
No science involved whatsoever.
Common sense tells us that Nick.
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Re: The Living-Cell
« Reply #410 on: September 11, 2018, 04:31:05 PM »
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Just imagine for a moment that my science, supported by all known science

Your waffle is supported by no known science.

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an eternal life trapped in the ether...until, that is, till the fiery lake of sulphur arrives and we are condemned to an eternity floating around the universe spiritually trapped forever more with no remission. That is what everyone who encourages you to follow Jesus Christ, accurately, is trying to save you from...you will never have a truer friend.

The 'ether' was a concept hypothesised by 18th and some 19th century scientists. It has long been outmoded and rejected.
As for 'the fiery lake of sulphur' - the one good thing that can be said about your friends the Jehovah's Witnesses is that they reserve this for Satan and his demons alone. Humans (according to the JWs) simply die. In this (and only this) you could learn something from them, rather than indulging in Schadenfreude.
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Re: The Living-Cell
« Reply #411 on: September 11, 2018, 04:43:28 PM »
Just imagine for a moment that my science, supported by all known science and the accurate teaching of Jesus Christ, is correct.
Why? We know it isn't correct. That makes the rest of your post just nonsensical waffle.

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Re: The Living-Cell
« Reply #412 on: September 11, 2018, 04:53:18 PM »
Just imagine for a moment that my science, supported by all known science and the accurate teaching of Jesus Christ, is correct. What it means is that we are killing ourselves and turning our good health into the chaos we are living in today by refusing to adopt solid righteous teaching...but more than this, we are condemning ourselves to an eternal life trapped in the ether...until, that is, till the fiery lake of sulphur arrives and we are condemned to an eternity floating around the universe spiritually trapped forever more with no remission. That is what everyone who encourages you to follow Jesus Christ, accurately, is trying to save you from...you will never have a truer friend. The science demands that you read the Holy Bible and compare it against what I say...That means that Almighty God is the living voice of a wonderful dynamic, and indestructible energy, that built stars and atoms and the genetics that formed life and which needs special laws to harness and harvest that wonderful science into our daily lives by. It doesn't matter whether you like the idea or not it is vital to all our salvations.


Your fanciful notions are NOT science.
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Re: The Living-Cell
« Reply #413 on: September 11, 2018, 05:23:43 PM »

Science says that the universe is expanding at high speed...but does nothing with it...I have proved that it is the birth-force behind the birth of gravity...the higgs field...the imploding force that fires up life within the living cell....the birth force behind all science.

Science says that every atom has a wonderful pattern of particle arrangement within them...that's it...all planted by a big-bang. My science pulled from that science and the Holy Bible shows that atoms are a natural by-product of an newly forming star of pure, dense energy, which is scratching at the dimension that lies beneath the entire Milky Way...the pre-big bang, static universe

Science says that the universe is filled with an invisible property they call dark matter and dark energy...full stop...my science shows that this material/energy is the dynamic energy/God's fountain of spiritual waters/the Holy Water, owned by Almighty God that can quench thirsts that  other quenchers can't reach, a soothing balm for our genetics.

Science says that the living cell replicates in repeatable patterns but offers nothing to explain why or how...my science shows that an electrical force must exist of the sort that drives atom formation and gravity, black-holes and all life, part-atoms that come together in pairs bringing predetermined atoms into a chemical setting before parting causing replication...and the Holy Bible agrees. This is why Jesus Christ is the highest scientist in the universe after his Godly status as being the Son of Almighty God, himself. He brought Almighty God's righteous science to us and delivered it to us in a way that can be easily understood

Time for us to realise that modern science is lagging well behind the Holy Bible.

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Re: The Living-Cell
« Reply #414 on: September 11, 2018, 05:27:06 PM »
Science says that the universe is expanding at high speed...but does nothing with it...I have proved that it is the birth-force behind the birth of gravity...the higgs field...the imploding force that fires up life within the living cell....the birth force behind all science.

Science says that every atom has a wonderful pattern of particle arrangement within them...that's it...all planted by a big-bang. My science pulled from that science and the Holy Bible shows that atoms are a natural by-product of an newly forming star of pure, dense energy, which is scratching at the dimension that lies beneath the entire Milky Way...the pre-big bang, static universe

Science says that the universe is filled with an invisible property they call dark matter and dark energy...full stop...my science shows that this material/energy is the dynamic energy/God's fountain of spiritual waters/the Holy Water, owned by Almighty God that can quench thirsts that  other quenchers can't reach, a soothing balm for our genetics.

Science says that the living cell replicates in repeatable patterns but offers nothing to explain why or how...my science shows that an electrical force must exist of the sort that drives atom formation and gravity, black-holes and all life, part-atoms that come together in pairs bringing predetermined atoms into a chemical setting before parting causing replication...and the Holy Bible agrees. This is why Jesus Christ is the highest scientist in the universe after his Godly status as being the Son of Almighty God, himself. He brought Almighty God's righteous science to us and delivered it to us in a way that can be easily understood

Time for us to realise that modern science is lagging well behind the Holy Bible.


The only thing you have proved is that your imagination is on overdrive! ::)
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Re: The Living-Cell
« Reply #415 on: September 11, 2018, 05:50:38 PM »
Nick

You are either having a laugh, and if so please stop since you aren't funny and any novelty has long since worn off, or you urgently need to get yourself an education about science so that your proselytising doesn't involve any more spurious claims about either science or your claims of being a 'scientist'.

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Re: The Living-Cell
« Reply #416 on: September 11, 2018, 06:17:27 PM »
Apparently this mb will be troll free (or at least troll light) for a bit, so until normal service returns…

NM,

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I have proved that…

First, the word “science” has a definition. That definition entails observation, hypotheses, evidence, testing, theories, peer review, falsification tests etc. Whatever it is that you think you’re doing, it has none of these characteristics. That means that cannot be science. No ifs, not buts - it cannot be science. Call it what you like – assertion, bad poetry, personal theology, whatever – but you cannot call it science.

In the unlikely event that you actually manage to demonstrate even some of the conditions necessary for science though, then – but only then – would that term be even remotely appropriate.

Second, you’ve “proved” nothing whatever – just asserting incoherence doesn’t constitute proof

Third, science doesn’t deal with proofs in any case – it deals with hypotheses and theories. Those things can be amended or junked as and when further and better evidence and reasoning arises. That’s the strength of science – its methods allow for knowledge to develop and to grow over time. Your unfounded and evidence-free assertions on the other hand start wrong and stay that way.

Fourth, the attempts you make to describe the truths that science does provide are almost invariably wrong. Not slightly off, not nearly right – categorically and unequivocaly wrong. And when torri and others take the time to explain to you where and how you go wrong it’s fundamentally dishonest of you moreover to respond with “read your holy Bible” and similar rather than to own the countless mistakes you make about cell biology, a supposed dark side of the earth, stars vanishing, earthquakes increasing etc.

Fifth, when your many mistakes are explained to you your playing the victim in response (“the Bible says people would mock” etc) just makes you look pathetic. People correct you not because they have an agenda to mock; they correct you because they’re right and you’re wrong.

Oh, and sixth when you tell me and others to “read your Holy Bible” you need to understand that it’s not my “Holy” Bible at all. That you think it to be holy –ie, divinely inspired and therefore authoritative – is a personal conviction you happen to have, but your utter inability to mount even a scrap of an iota of a nano-argument worthy of the name to validate that claim means you've arrogated a claim on my behalf. 

Apart from that though...         
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Re: The Living-Cell
« Reply #417 on: September 11, 2018, 06:32:40 PM »
..I have proved ........
...that you have an over active imagination.

That is the only thing that you have proved Nick.
Common sense alone tells us that.
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Re: The Living-Cell
« Reply #418 on: September 11, 2018, 07:09:39 PM »


What I have established, beyond a shadow of a doubt, is the science that Jesus Christ lived and died showing us, and its wonderful attributes towards our resurrection, repair, and everlasting life. It cannot be altered or defied, it can only be used wisely or evilly...the choice is ours...but the past 2000 years declare to me that God's Final Judgement will put an end to all evil ridicule...and, as a kindness...I am forewarning you all.

Almighty God isn't the God of the entire universe because he backs away from unrighteousness. Neither does Jesus Christ.


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Re: The Living-Cell
« Reply #419 on: September 11, 2018, 07:18:43 PM »
NM,

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What I have established, beyond a shadow of a doubt, is the science that Jesus Christ lived and died showing us, and its wonderful attributes towards our resurrection, repair, and everlasting life. It cannot be altered or defied, it can only be used wisely or evilly...the choice is ours...but the past 2000 years declare to me that God's Final Judgement will put an end to all evil ridicule...and, as a kindness...I am forewarning you all.

Almighty God isn't the God of the entire universe because he backs away from unrighteousness. Neither does Jesus Christ.

What you have "established" is only that you make some (frankly bizarre) assertions. You have fundamentally not however demonstrated science of any kind for the reasons I explained to you and that you've just ignored.
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Re: The Living-Cell
« Reply #420 on: September 11, 2018, 09:24:04 PM »

What I have done is delivered the two gifts from Almighty God that I was under righteous instruction to deliver...so that you will all have a fighting chance against the Biblical Revelation that is creeping up on us all and which requires this science, or Jesus Christ's accurate 'word' for anyone to succeed through it all, as long as we don't delay in our repentance any longer.

Righteousness is only living as we should be anyway with some wonderful promises thrown in.


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« Reply #421 on: September 11, 2018, 11:17:43 PM »
What I have done is delivered the two gifts from Almighty God that I was under righteous instruction to deliver...so that you will all have a fighting chance against the Biblical Revelation that is creeping up on us all and which requires this science, or Jesus Christ's accurate 'word' for anyone to succeed through it all, as long as we don't delay in our repentance any longer.

Righteousness is only living as we should be anyway with some wonderful promises thrown in.




Who instructed you?
Because whoever it was, God it was not.
If you accept the Christ who is Truth - even if you dispute His nature; your abject failure to provide even a scrap of evidence that can be examined or debated debases your message, negates your claim, and insults the Gospel you claim to cherish.
Sorry, NM, you are a false witness - and if you have in any way read the New Testament, you will note that Paul, James, John, Peter, the writer of Hebrews and Christ Himself made their feelings abundantly clear as false witnesses are concerned.
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Re: The Living-Cell
« Reply #422 on: September 12, 2018, 06:26:03 AM »
What I have done is delivered the two gifts from Almighty God that I was under righteous instruction to deliver...so that you will all have a fighting chance against the Biblical Revelation that is creeping up on us all and which requires this science, or Jesus Christ's accurate 'word' for anyone to succeed through it all, as long as we don't delay in our repentance any longer.

Really ? must have missed that. Post up a link

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Re: The Living-Cell
« Reply #423 on: September 12, 2018, 08:34:20 AM »
What I have done is delivered the two gifts from Almighty God that I was under righteous instruction to deliver...so that you will all have a fighting chance against the Biblical Revelation that is creeping up on us all and which requires this science, or Jesus Christ's accurate 'word' for anyone to succeed through it all, as long as we don't delay in our repentance any longer.

Righteousness is only living as we should be anyway with some wonderful promises thrown in.

Oh dear, that says it all, SO SAD! :(
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Re: The Living-Cell
« Reply #424 on: September 12, 2018, 09:06:40 AM »

I'll say it again, in case some of you are hard of hearing...according to the Holy Bible...we are surrounded by an invisible energy...it is the same energy that, in its densest form, created all galaxies, stars, and subsequently, all life. Almighty God, himself, is a living manifestation of all this energy and is its living voice. Jesus Christ taught us how to harness this energy, how to reattach ourselves to its soothing, calming, refreshing, repairing forces, and they, our Deity, are especially concerned because the great tribulations are pressing heavier upon us now, daily. Repentance is our best course of action...defiance will have its own, unwanted, reward.