The Living-Cell

[SusanDoris]

NM

read a book called 'The Weather Experts' by Peter Moore about the pioneers in the world of meteorology and then come back and tell us what you think of it.

[NicholasMarks]

NM

read a book called 'The Weather Experts' by Peter Moore about the pioneers in the world of meteorology and then come back and tell us what you think of it.

I read the Holy Bible and tell you what I think...and it isn't good...for any of us...but we can be protected and guarded against its worst prophecy by taking in the spiritual laws of righteousness which is hewn from God's spiritual laws that control the universe...largely through the strict scientific behaviour that is offered by an invisible, superabundant, spiritual energy, that is the hidden force behind everything.

[ippy]

NM

read a book called 'The Weather Experts' by Peter Moore about the pioneers in the world of meteorology and then come back and tell us what you think of it.

NM's posts are more to do with the parts that have been removed to create a wether.

Regards ippy

[NicholasMarks]

NM

read a book called 'The Weather Experts' by Peter Moore about the pioneers in the world of meteorology and then come back and tell us what you think of it.

Out of courtesy I have read the introduction to this book from Amazon. It seems that Robert Fitzroy was the main pioneer here...who, incidentally, committed suicide. This is a problem many scientists, over the ages, have felt compelled to do. It's because in the robustness of their inquiries they burn themselves out emotionally and like all sufferers of emotional exhaustion, felt totally let down, unable to face his critics, and devoid of self-care. He could have continued his studies if he had marked time and trusted in the teaching of Jesus Christ to guide him...but that wasn't to be. What good is a science to a scientist, if, even though he may be on the right track, feels compelled to end it all. Science without Almighty God is a poor bed-mate.

[bluehillside Retd.]

NM,

Hmmm...No such things as emotional laws? Tell that to all those who are bullied on a regular basis...How it leaves them drained and defenceless. How the bully tricks and deceives to appease an inner emotional need. The same emotional laws that are often portrayed as being more painful than serious physical injury.

This’ll be lost on you, but that’s an error in thinking called a non sequitur. That bullying is emotionally damaging does not mean that there’s such a thing as “emotional laws”. You’d have all your work ahead of you do show that such laws exist.

Your reluctance to accept the science because you don't understand it just tells us how divorced you are from Biblical speak. Jesus alone talks of the genetic response that a healthier attitude breeds...he says ignore the injury but safeguard your emotional strength...not in those words, but in these words, that if someone hits you in the face, turn the other cheek.

Stop lying. I don’t refuse “to accept the science because (I) don't understand it” at all. What I actually do is refuse to accept your spurious claim to science on the reasonable grounds that you’re entirely indifferent to (or unaware of) the characteristics necessary for the status "science" to apply. “It makes sense in my head” (which is all you have) does not make something science: observation, hypothesis, evidence, testing, theory, peer review, publication etc on the other hand – none of which you have – does. And that’s your problem.   

Now...

You can’t have a “now” when your prior effort has just collapsed in a heap.

…religion perpetuates Christian love, caring and kindness…

Some does, some doesn’t. In either case though it doesn't invent it.

…whilst those with no interest…

No interest in what?

…make silly quotes like the footnote about Arthur C Clarke's which says religion isn't required for a good attitude, but, without Jesus Christ's teaching why is there a global congregation, a global, cancerous tumour, of the most appalling attitudes conceivable.

There isn’t “a global congregation, a global, cancerous tumour, of the most appalling attitudes conceivable” – that’s just something else you’ve made up.

So which fundamentally are you would you say – delusional or dishonest?

[Nearly Sane]

Out of courtesy I have read the introduction to this book from Amazon. It seems that Robert Fitzroy was the main pioneer here...who, incidentally, committed suicide. This is a problem many scientists, over the ages, have felt compelled to do. It's because in the robustness of their inquiries they burn themselves out emotionally and like all sufferers of emotional exhaustion, felt totally let down, unable to face his critics, and devoid of self-care. He could have continued his studies if he had marked time and trusted in the teaching of Jesus Christ to guide him...but that wasn't to be. What good is a science to a scientist, if, even though he may be on the right track, feels compelled to end it all. Science without Almighty God is a poor bed-mate.

Except of course Fitzroy was a Christian too. A very vociferous one. But you want to piss on his grave.

[Nearly Sane]

For anyone who doesn't know of Fitzroy, he was a fascinating character.


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_FitzRoy

[bluehillside Retd.]

NS,

But you want to piss on his grave.

That's Nicholas for you. He also all but says that people with cancer have no-one to blame but themselves for not following the practices of his (entirely un-evidenced and logic free) superstitions. It's contemptible stuff, and the best gloss I can put on it is to assume that he's utterly lacking in empathy rather than downright nasty.

[NicholasMarks]

NS,

That's Nicholas for you. He also all but says that people with cancer have no-one to blame but themselves for not following the practices of his (entirely un-evidenced and logic free) superstitions. It's contemptible stuff, and the best gloss I can put on it is to assume that he's utterly lacking in empathy rather than downright nasty.

I wouldn't rely on your own thoughts on this matter. Clearly you cannot see what many people have seen and testify to. I did say Nearly Sane that I had briefly glanced over an introduction to Fitzroy's teaching and am still convinced that whilst following a form of Christianity it certainly wasn't the teaching which tells us to upbuild a righteous spirit, within us, as our first priority.

What is really unbelievable is that a science drawn from the Holy Bible with references of self-help written on every page is rejected by those who need its help the most...still...science , like Almighty God and Jesus Christ won't go away because we don't like it...though there is the option that it will pass us by in a negative way if we can't conform to righteous teaching.

[Anchorman]

Out of courtesy I have read the introduction to this book from Amazon. It seems that Robert Fitzroy was the main pioneer here...who, incidentally, committed suicide. This is a problem many scientists, over the ages, have felt compelled to do. It's because in the robustness of their inquiries they burn themselves out emotionally and like all sufferers of emotional exhaustion, felt totally let down, unable to face his critics, and devoid of self-care. He could have continued his studies if he had marked time and trusted in the teaching of Jesus Christ to guide him...but that wasn't to be. What good is a science to a scientist, if, even though he may be on the right track, feels compelled to end it all. Science without Almighty God is a poor bed-mate.

So what about committe Christian W.M. Flinders Petrie, who pioneered stratification archaeology, pottery dating, and in the process proved that the Biblical account of Israel in Egypt wasn't accurate history? He wasn't consumed by guilt, or 'emotional law' tripe - but remained a committed Christian till his last breath. And, NM. he was a REAL scientist - using REAL, hands-on evidence, every scrap of which he published , to verify his hypothesis. You, on the other hand, seem to be a neognostic fantasist who wouldn't know what evidence was if it fell on you like a non-existant planet. Here's Petrie's entry on Wiki. Oh, and, by the way, this is what we call 'evidence'. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flinders_Petrie

[Nearly Sane]

I wouldn't rely on your own thoughts on this matter. Clearly you cannot see what many people have seen and testify to. I did say Nearly Sane that I had briefly glanced over an introduction to Fitzroy's teaching and am still convinced that whilst following a form of Christianity it certainly wasn't the teaching which tells us to upbuild a righteous spirit, within us, as our first priority.

What is really unbelievable is that a science drawn from the Holy Bible with references of self-help written on every page is rejected by those who need its help the most...still...science , like Almighty God and Jesus Christ won't go away because we don't like it...though there is the option that it will pass us by in a negative way if we can't conform to righteous teaching.

You haven't addressed any comments on Fitzroy to me. Further there was nothing said by you about Fitzroy's christianity until this post. You continue to piss on his grave.

[bluehillside Retd.]

NM,

I wouldn't rely on your own thoughts on this matter. Clearly you cannot see what many people have seen and testify to. I did say Nearly Sane that I had briefly glanced over an introduction to Fitzroy's teaching and am still convinced that whilst following a form of Christianity it certainly wasn't the teaching which tells us to upbuild a righteous spirit, within us, as our first priority.

What is really unbelievable is that a science drawn from the Holy Bible with references of self-help written on every page is rejected by those who need its help the most...still...science , like Almighty God and Jesus Christ won't go away because we don't like it...though there is the option that it will pass us by in a negative way if we can't conform to righteous teaching.

No, the only thing that's "unbelievable" here is your persistence in claiming your assertions and speculations to be "science" when you fail utterly to marry them to even the most basic conditions necessary for that term to apply. That makes you either a fantasist or a liar, or a bit of both. There is no other option.   

[NicholasMarks]

Your course, nasty and irreverent language says it all. Christians are denied that hostility...we must turn the other cheek. This might give you the opinion of weakness but it's more a question of meekness...following our leader...Jesus Christ...who tells us to expect this reaction...especially from the antiChrist.

You have failed miserably to see that an invisible force is at work here...a force that reaches right back to Heaven...a force that has a science and an owner, a teacher, and a wonderful ability to repair and resurrect those who adhere to the science. You gloss over obvious and wonderful facts like the cancer cell is obeying the same science that bullies adhere to...snatching this invisible emotional energy from neighbours and magnifying their own wild and uncontrolled lifestyles by repeating the same wild genetic pattern over and over again. It's of no consequence to me if you all finish up in the fiery lake of sulphur...you will be quickly forgotten about, but those who make the effort to be saved in the accurate way Jesus taught us are like brothers and sisters to me and  will be eternally grateful to Almighty God's and Jesus Christ's righteous science...You could be one of that number...but it requires reading the Holy Bible.

[Nearly Sane]

Your course, nasty and irreverent language says it all. Christians are denied that hostility...we must turn the other cheek. This might give you the opinion of weakness but it's more a question of meekness...following our leader...Jesus Christ...who tells us to expect this reaction...especially from the antiChrist.

You have failed miserably to see that an invisible force is at work here...a force that reaches right back to Heaven...a force that has a science and an owner, a teacher, and a wonderful ability to repair and resurrect those who adhere to the science. You gloss over obvious and wonderful facts like the cancer cell is obeying the same science that bullies adhere to...snatching this invisible emotional energy from neighbours and magnifying their own wild and uncontrolled lifestyles by repeating the same wild genetic pattern over and over again. It's of no consequence to me if you all finish up in the fiery lake of sulphur...you will be quickly forgotten about, but those who make the effort to be saved in the accurate way Jesus taught us are like brothers and sisters to me and  will be eternally grateful to Almighty God's and Jesus Christ's righteous science...You could be one of that number...but it requires reading the Holy Bible.

I was standing up for Fitzroy, the Christian. You are the one pissing on his grave 

[bluehillside Retd.]

NM,

Your course, nasty and irreverent language says it all. Christians are denied that hostility...we must turn the other cheek. This might give you the opinion of weakness but it's more a question of meekness...following our leader...Jesus Christ...who tells us to expect this reaction...especially from the antiChrist.

You have failed miserably to see that an invisible force is at work here...a force that reaches right back to Heaven...a force that has a science and an owner, a teacher, and a wonderful ability to repair and resurrect those who adhere to the science. You gloss over obvious and wonderful facts like the cancer cell is obeying the same science that bullies adhere to...snatching this invisible emotional energy from neighbours and magnifying their own wild and uncontrolled lifestyles by repeating the same wild genetic pattern over and over again. It's of no consequence to me if you all finish up in the fiery lake of sulphur...you will be quickly forgotten about, but those who make the effort to be saved in the accurate way Jesus taught us are like brothers and sisters to me and  will be eternally grateful to Almighty God's and Jesus Christ's righteous science...You could be one of that number...but it requires reading the Holy Bible.

The only "miserable failure" here is your utter failure to show there to be anything scientific at all about your pernicious nonsense. I don't know why you're so terrified of even attempting to apply something of the scientific method to your speculations - presumably at some dim level even you perceive that the claim would fail immediately you tried it - but your continued avoidance comes at the price of exposing you to be delusional of dishonest, or both. If that's really what you want to achieve, it's working.     

[NicholasMarks]

I was standing up for Fitzroy, the Christian. You are the one pissing on his grave

I was bringing Fitzroy into the arena via a discussion with SueDoris who asked me to read a book concerning him. I made a quick glance of the subject and published what jumped out at me. If kindly stating that the man's emotional exhaustion caused him to commit suicide offends you then you offend me by not seeing that I am exposing the mechanics that all suicides employ...that they get trapped inside an emotional black-hole and exhaust there own inner, emotional strength...and here is how to prevent it...follow the accurate teaching of Jesus Christ who goes to great lengths to tell us that our spiritual/emotional strength is our highest possession and that we should guard it rigourously, even if we are crucified.

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[bluehillside Retd.]

NM,

I was bringing Fitzroy into the arena via a discussion with SueDoris who asked me to read a book concerning him. I made a quick glance of the subject and published what jumped out at me. If kindly stating that the man's emotional exhaustion caused him to commit suicide offends you then you offend me by not seeing that I am exposing the mechanics that all suicides employ...that they get trapped inside an emotional black-hole and exhaust there own inner, emotional strength...and here is how to prevent it...follow the accurate teaching of Jesus Christ who goes to great lengths to tell us that our spiritual/emotional strength is our highest possession and that we should guard it rigourously, even if we are crucified.

Like I said, not only nonsense but pernicious nonsense. You have no idea what deeply tragic circumstances cause people to take their own lives, and attempting to explain it away by their failure to observe your bizarre superstitions is unpleasant fuckwittery of the highest order. You lack the self-awareness to understand this, but you should be seriously ashamed of yourself nonetheless. 

[Nearly Sane]

I was bringing Fitzroy into the arena via a discussion with SueDoris who asked me to read a book concerning him. I made a quick glance of the subject and published what jumped out at me. If kindly stating that the man's emotional exhaustion caused him to commit suicide offends you then you offend me by not seeing that I am exposing the mechanics that all suicides employ...that they get trapped inside an emotional black-hole and exhaust there own inner, emotional strength...and here is how to prevent it...follow the accurate teaching of Jesus Christ who goes to great lengths to tell us that our spiritual/emotional strength is our highest possession and that we should guard it rigourously, even if we are crucified.

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No, your attack that Fitzroy a noted Christian was somehow at fault made you look like you were pissing in his grave. That you did it as you have made clear above fron a position of ignorance doesn't help. 

[NicholasMarks]

NM,

The only "miserable failure" here is your utter failure to show there to be anything scientific at all about your pernicious nonsense. I don't know why you're so terrified of even attempting to apply something of the scientific method to your speculations - presumably at some dim level even you perceive that the claim would fail immediately you tried it - but your continued avoidance comes at the price of exposing you to be delusional of dishonest, or both. If that's really what you want to achieve, it's working.     

How I long for a righteous world where all discussion revolves around our understanding of a righteous science headed by the same teaching contained within the scriptures...especially tha accurate teaching of Jesus Christ. This is why I insist on showing you the structure of God's science. When you are happy and healthy not much more matters...but having the whole science behind safe space travel and aligning ourselves with a powerful, eternal science, and higher authority, who have only our peace and happiness to concern them is a bit better than what we have got now. To embrace it though we must be trustworthy, obedient to the science, and respect a law that the entire righteous population in the universe adhere to and that is that Almighty God and his son, Jesus Christ, are the everlasting monarchs of that universe.

[Sebastian Toe]

the strict scientific behaviour that is offered by an invisible, superabundant, spiritual energy, that is the hidden force behind everything.

Is it the force behind the "pollution" that prevents you and only you from seeing the stars at night?

[NicholasMarks]

No, your attack that Fitzroy a noted Christian was somehow at fault made you look like you were pissing in his grave. That you did it as you have made clear above fron a position of ignorance doesn't help.

You know me Nearly Sane, I don't go round and round in circles with anyone. Your opinion is your opinion...I have qualified what I said and you don't accept it...shame, but there we go. Whilst we are debating a point about what causes suicide many people are hurting inside because of the mechanics I allude to...no one has the answers it seems, but I have offered an answer...avoid wasting our emotional strength because all advertising and all propaganda, all bullies and all evil intent uses the tactics mentioned here and only Jesus Christ fully understands this fact.

[bluehillside Retd.]

NM,

How I long for a righteous world where all discussion revolves around our understanding of a righteous science headed by the same teaching contained within the scriptures...especially tha accurate teaching of Jesus Christ. This is why I insist on showing you the structure of God's science. When you are happy and healthy not much more matters...but having the whole science behind safe space travel and aligning ourselves with a powerful, eternal science, and higher authority, who have only our peace and happiness to concern them is a bit better than what we have got now. To embrace it though we must be trustworthy, obedient to the science, and respect a law that the entire righteous population in the universe adhere to and that is that Almighty God and his son, Jesus Christ, are the everlasting monarchs of that universe.

In the vanishingly unlikely event you ever feel like attempting to apply anything at all of the scientific method to your bizarre and pernicious assertions by all means let us know.

Why do I feel unclean after I've read your contemptible efforts here?

Assertions 6, Science 0.

[bluehillside Retd.]

NM,

You know me Nearly Sane, I don't go round and round in circles with anyone. Your opinion is your opinion...I have qualified what I said and you don't accept it...shame, but there we go. Whilst we are debating a point about what causes suicide many people are hurting inside because of the mechanics I allude to...no one has the answers it seems, but I have offered an answer...avoid wasting our emotional strength because all advertising and all propaganda, all bullies and all evil intent uses the tactics mentioned here and only Jesus Christ fully understands this fact.

Shame on you.

[NicholasMarks]

Is it the force behind the "pollution" that prevents you and only you from seeing the stars at night?

I still don't see them...now, not even the planes who fogged them out...though I still hear them. It would be wise to look it up on youtube because the intention to block all eye-witness accounts seems to be the thrust behind political manouveouring. Not to worry...those looking for the signs have already seen them and it is heart-warming to know that we have a God of righteous intent, watching our backs.

   

[NicholasMarks]

NM,

Shame on you.

Like many unpleasant subjects someone has to broach the facts to get to the bottom of things. What is unpalatable to you might save someones life. Of course the alternative might be to slam and slang off the one offering a solution via a very well tested method...that method being upbuilding a righteous spirit according to the accurate teaching of Jesus Christ...now let's hear your solution...Making them all millionaires isn't an option.