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Nearly Sane

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5 Books - on Jesus
« on: August 21, 2018, 10:29:05 PM »

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Re: 5 Books - on Jesus
« Reply #1 on: August 22, 2018, 07:44:15 AM »
Top of anyone's list should be The Changing Face of Jesus by Geza Vermes. Fantastic book.

A useful book for study is Four Gospels, One Jesus? by Richard Burridge.

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Re: 5 Books - on Jesus
« Reply #2 on: August 22, 2018, 08:26:23 AM »
I would venture to suggest that the Schweitzer book, ground-breaking in its time, is now of historical interest only, Jesus scholarship having moved on so much in the century-plus since it was written. You may as well throw in Renan's (far older) Vie de Jesus. As Rhi said, Geza Vermes is the kiddy.
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Re: 5 Books - on Jesus
« Reply #3 on: August 23, 2018, 02:44:16 PM »
Top of anyone's list should be The Changing Face of Jesus by Geza Vermes. Fantastic book.

A useful book for study is Four Gospels, One Jesus? by Richard Burridge.

Yes, the Vermes book is brilliant. So many things fall into place after reading it, though I did think that one or two of his arguments were a little glib, and he was trying to make some awkward things fit.

Another fine book which also tries to make sense of the anomalies between the ideas of Paul and those presented (particularly) in the Synoptics and Acts is "How Jesus became Christian" by Prof Barrie Wilson.
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Re: 5 Books - on Jesus
« Reply #4 on: August 23, 2018, 02:54:28 PM »
I would venture to suggest that the Schweitzer book, ground-breaking in its time, is now of historical interest only, Jesus scholarship having moved on so much in the century-plus since it was written. You may as well throw in Renan's (far older) Vie de Jesus. As Rhi said, Geza Vermes is the kiddy.

I think that's a bit unfair on the Schweitzer book, particularly since you suggest it's in the same order of relevance as Renan's Vie de Jesus.  After all, it's the starting point for the researches of Bart D. Ehrman, who seems to be here to stay, even though I wouldn't rate him alongside Vermes.

In fact, all these above thinkers follow Schweitzer's lead in suggesting that Jesus was a 'failed Messiah' who did not see the God imminently intervening in history to establish his Kingdom as Jesus had supposed. (That of course did not prevent Schweitzer from seeing Jesus as a major inspiration in his life). The idea of Schweitzer's that is particularly outdated is his insistence on the priority of Matthew among the synoptics, and I have to say I find that extraordinary.

However, the book has further importance in that it was in itself the result of Schweitzer's extensive reading of objective biblical research from its origins in the fear-ridden speculations of Samuel Reimarus up to Schweitzer's own time (as is evident in its original title "From Reimarus to Wrede".
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