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The Cathedral and the Wicker Man
« on: August 26, 2018, 09:09:46 PM »
'However, the Dean said the films won't be "showing God anything that he hasn't seen before".'


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-derbyshire-45245229

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Re: The Cathedral and the Wicker Man
« Reply #1 on: August 26, 2018, 11:07:01 PM »
'However, the Dean said the films won't be "showing God anything that he hasn't seen before".'


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-derbyshire-45245229
   





This isn't new to me.
Back after the local flea pit shut, our Kirk showed a series of Hammer classics ....the usual  Peter Cushing/Christopher Lee stuff )and none the worse for that)
The Wicker Man as well.
Video killed that off, though; pity, as it wes a good atmosphere.
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Re: The Cathedral and the Wicker Man
« Reply #2 on: August 27, 2018, 06:59:12 AM »
'However, the Dean said the films won't be "showing God anything that he hasn't seen before".'


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-derbyshire-45245229
There was a woman on Stephen  Nolan's phone-in last night who thought it was all wrong because a cathedral should only be talking about Christianity and, apparently, not allowing a mention of any other thought within its precincts. She also was evidently shocked that the cathedral might be wanting to raise funds.
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Re: The Cathedral and the Wicker Man
« Reply #3 on: August 27, 2018, 07:51:03 AM »
There was a woman on Stephen  Nolan's phone-in last night who thought it was all wrong because a cathedral should only be talking about Christianity and, apparently, not allowing a mention of any other thought within its precincts. She also was evidently shocked that the cathedral might be wanting to raise funds.
If I recall correctly from seeing it many years ago, 'The Wicker Man' is pro-Christianity and anti-paganism, so Idon't know why the old bat is complaining, other than that she's a narrow-minded, curtain-twitching, 'Mail' reading (probably) serial whinger. Edwardwardward Woodwoodwoodwoodward's Christian copper is quite heroic, and the pagans are murdering monsters.
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Re: The Cathedral and the Wicker Man
« Reply #4 on: August 27, 2018, 08:04:01 AM »
If I recall correctly from seeing it many years ago, 'The Wicker Man' is pro-Christianity and anti-paganism, so Idon't know why the old bat is complaining, other than that she's a narrow-minded, curtain-twitching, 'Mail' reading (probably) serial whinger. Edwardwardward Woodwoodwoodwoodward's Christian copper is quite heroic, and the pagans are murdering monsters.
I think you need to see it again. While he may display physical courage, he's also depicted as a sour-faced, humourless, uptight, joyless prude with a bolt up his arse.
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Re: The Cathedral and the Wicker Man
« Reply #5 on: August 27, 2018, 08:25:22 AM »
And quite rightly too ?!?!?!?

Certain humourless buggers on here really DO need to see this wonderful film again.
Remember they drew E W there under pretext of human sacrifice ?!?!?
Best thing to do with his character too!!!!

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« Reply #6 on: August 27, 2018, 08:38:10 AM »
And quite rightly too ?!?!?!?

Certain humourless buggers on here really DO need to see this wonderful film again.
Remember they drew E W there under pretext of human sacrifice ?!?!?
Best thing to do with his character too!!!!

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I'm not unsympathetic. Certainly the inhabitants of Summerisle demanded a human sacrifice as a propitiation to make the crops grow, but at least they had a jolly up beforehand; Woodwardwardwardwardward goes through the film permanently looking as though his cat has just died.
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Re: The Cathedral and the Wicker Man
« Reply #7 on: August 27, 2018, 08:42:00 AM »
You know, if this was shown in Westminster Cathedral, they might have served complimentary ....popecorn... )I'll get me coat....)
"for, as long as but a hundred of us remain alive, never will we on any conditions be brought under English rule. It is in truth not for glory, nor riches, nor honours that we are fighting, but for freedom - for that alone, which no honest man gives up but with life itself."

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Re: The Cathedral and the Wicker Man
« Reply #8 on: August 27, 2018, 08:44:32 AM »
I'm not unsympathetic. Certainly the inhabitants of Summerisle demanded a human sacrifice as a propitiation to make the crops grow, but at least they had a jolly up beforehand; Woodwardwardwardwardward goes through the film permanently looking as though his cat has just died.
The presence of Christopher Lee was a bit of a clue.

Is there a sing along version for pagans ?
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Re: The Cathedral and the Wicker Man
« Reply #9 on: August 27, 2018, 08:50:51 AM »
Is there a sing along version for pagans ?
They do a nifty version of Sumer is icumen in* at the end, if that helps? Who knows; they might have subtitles on the DVD - I've never checked.

* Oldest known song in English, trivia fans.
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Re: The Cathedral and the Wicker Man
« Reply #10 on: August 27, 2018, 08:51:10 AM »
I think the moral of the Whicker man was that good is bad and bad is just as good ........as you can get........or was that Whickers Island?

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Re: The Cathedral and the Wicker Man
« Reply #11 on: August 27, 2018, 08:55:08 AM »
'However, the Dean said the films won't be "showing God anything that he hasn't seen before".'


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-derbyshire-45245229
I don't expect God will be there..

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Re: The Cathedral and the Wicker Man
« Reply #12 on: August 27, 2018, 08:56:13 AM »
Er, I don't expect God will be there..
I thought according to your club he's everywhere? Like James Corden, only more so.
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Re: The Cathedral and the Wicker Man
« Reply #13 on: August 27, 2018, 09:01:33 AM »
I don't expect God will be there..




Eh?
"for, as long as but a hundred of us remain alive, never will we on any conditions be brought under English rule. It is in truth not for glory, nor riches, nor honours that we are fighting, but for freedom - for that alone, which no honest man gives up but with life itself."

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Re: The Cathedral and the Wicker Man
« Reply #14 on: August 27, 2018, 09:01:58 AM »
I thought according to your club he's everywhere? Like James Corden, only more so.
1 Samuel 16:14  Now the Spirit of the LORD had departed from Saul, and an evil spirit from the LORD tormented him.
Is the sense I meant

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Re: The Cathedral and the Wicker Man
« Reply #15 on: August 27, 2018, 09:03:49 AM »
1 Samuel 16:14  Now the Spirit of the LORD had departed from Saul, and an evil spirit from the LORD tormented him.
Is the sense I meant


Wot....yu're comparing Saul to Corbyn....
No, I'm not going there, either.....
"for, as long as but a hundred of us remain alive, never will we on any conditions be brought under English rule. It is in truth not for glory, nor riches, nor honours that we are fighting, but for freedom - for that alone, which no honest man gives up but with life itself."

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Re: The Cathedral and the Wicker Man
« Reply #16 on: August 27, 2018, 09:41:39 AM »
It anyone's bothered - I have the official CD release of that great music & songs.
Lovely folkie songs.

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Re: The Cathedral and the Wicker Man
« Reply #17 on: August 27, 2018, 09:45:07 AM »

Wot....yu're comparing Saul to Corbyn....
No, I'm not going there, either.....
I think you have a couple of posts, Spud's and Shaker's mixed, and indeed Shaker's reference to James Corden, as being about Corbyn?


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Corden


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Re: The Cathedral and the Wicker Man
« Reply #18 on: August 27, 2018, 09:54:02 AM »
'However, the Dean said the films won't be "showing God anything that he hasn't seen before".'
That's the thing - you could never take an omniscient god to the pictures as they already know the ending to every film ever made or not yet made, ever. It would be a nightmare.

"He gets killed next, you know."

"Just shut up."
Pain, or damage, don't end the world. Or despair, or fucking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man, and give some back. - Al Swearengen, Deadwood.

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Re: The Cathedral and the Wicker Man
« Reply #19 on: August 27, 2018, 09:57:18 AM »
It anyone's bothered - I have the official CD release of that great music & songs.
Lovely folkie songs.

Nick
Yes, trippy, I have it too.

These are both great films and should be screened at every opportunity :)
Ah, but I was so much older then ... I'm younger than that now

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Re: The Cathedral and the Wicker Man
« Reply #20 on: August 27, 2018, 09:58:17 AM »
Isn't it as a lot of 'horror'  based around the conflict between our Apollonian and Dionysian traits? The majority of the film is meant to put us on the side of the islanders, as Woodward is portrayed as a prig, and a hypocritical one, before the reveal is that the Dionysian unchecked leads to the murder. The reaction of those complaining is precisely mirroring Woodward.

As the Dean's comment makes clear, sex and connection to the earth are not antithetical to any god, unless you're a Manichee, rather they are part of what was created and attempting to cut them off entirely as evil is unbalanced. Too much religion stops discussiin, so points to Derby.
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Re: The Cathedral and the Wicker Man
« Reply #21 on: August 27, 2018, 09:58:52 AM »
I think you have a couple of posts, Spud's and Shaker's mixed, and indeed Shaker's reference to James Corden, as being about Corbyn?


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Corden


   



Nah; it was supposed to be ironic.
There's nothing worse than this kind of stuff - not Spud - but the self righteous bleatings of  twits who don't recognise that the Church in question is doing no harm whatsoever...those whose faith seems wobbly do the most moaning!
We took our youth Fellowship to see "life of Brian" when that stushie arose.
My only complaint was that it wasn't as funny as "Holy Grail".
It reminds me of the numpties who cried blasphemy because of the Church's attitue to Hary Potter, fearing that it would corrupt the  young and lwad them to start chanting in Latin and wearing black.
About the only thing watching "The Wicker Man" would do is engender a propensity to rip up Granny's old basket chair and give the cat a bad dose of apprehension.
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Re: The Cathedral and the Wicker Man
« Reply #22 on: August 27, 2018, 10:02:08 AM »
That's the thing - you could never take an omniscient god to the pictures as they already know the ending to every film ever made or not yet made, ever. It would be a nightmare.

"He gets killed next, you know."

"Just shut up."

That also needs the omniscient god to be a bit of an annoying blabbermouth.


It would also need to not after surprise, when your family box of Malteasers goes flying into the air, say 'I knew you were going to do that!'



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Re: The Cathedral and the Wicker Man
« Reply #23 on: August 27, 2018, 10:46:49 AM »
That's the thing - you could never take an omniscient god to the pictures as they already know the ending to every film ever made or not yet made, ever. It would be a nightmare.

"He gets killed next, you know."

"Just shut up."

'They all did it.'

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Re: The Cathedral and the Wicker Man
« Reply #24 on: August 27, 2018, 10:54:30 AM »
What do you call a man with a plank of wood on his head?

Edward.

What do you call a man with three planks of wood on his head?

Edward Woodward.

I'll shut up now.