Surgeon punched doctor in row over Laura Kuenssberg

[Humph Warden Bennett]

I've absolutely no doubt that you'll read something or other into whatever I was to say if I were to reply to this post of yours, so I'll leave it there.

Regrds ippy.

I think that Rhia's comment was aimed at me.

As far as I am concerned, feminism is a crock of shit.

[Rhiannon]

I think that Rhia's comment was aimed at me.

As far as I am concerned, feminism is a crock of shit.

Different from thinking that feminist is  dirty word.

Although both speak volumes.

[Walt Zingmatilder]

I think maybe this needs to be seen in the context of the fact that Ippy is a man,

A man??!!!???

How on earth did one of those get in here?

[Shaker]

I think that Rhia's comment was aimed at me.

As far as I am concerned, feminism is a crock of shit.

And why, in your worthless opinion, would that be?

[Roses]

I think that Rhia's comment was aimed at me.

As far as I am concerned, feminism is a crock of shit.

So you would prefer the bad old days when the male of the species was the gender in chief, and women were expected to do their bidding and kow tow to them. If it wasn't for the  Suffragettes women would still be regarded as chattels.

[jeremyp]

That reads as a very unpleasant and misogynistic comment.

Is a really unpleasant comment misogynistic just because it is directed at a woman? If Ipsy had said “I wish it were Robert Peston that got punched” would it have demonstrated hatred against men?

I think Ippy just has hatred for Laura Kuenssberg.

[Roses]

Is a really unpleasant comment misogynistic just because it is directed at a woman? If Ipsy had said “I wish it were Robert Peston that got punched” would it have demonstrated hatred against men?

I think Ippy just has hatred for Laura Kuenssberg.

Ippy shouldn't have made the comment, no one should have been punched, either male or female.

[Walt Zingmatilder]

Ippy shouldn't have made the comment, no one should have been punched, either male or female.

What about theists or is administering a 'wedgie' to them sufficient?

[Roses]

What about theists or is administering a 'wedgie' to them sufficient?

And in English?

[Rhiannon]

What about theists or is administering a 'wedgie' to them sufficient?

Your inability to see common humanity is troubling.

[Robbie]

Is a really unpleasant comment misogynistic just because it is directed at a woman? If Ipsy had said “I wish it were Robert Peston that got punched” would it have demonstrated hatred against men?

I think Ippy just has hatred for Laura Kuenssberg.

Why would Ippy 'hate' Laura Kuenssberg, does he know her personally?

[jeremyp]

Why would Ippy 'hate' Laura Kuenssberg, does he know her personally?

She broadcasts reports on the BBC that imply Brexit is going wrong.

[The Accountant, OBE, KC]

As far as I am concerned, feminism is a crock of shit.

Strange generalisation to make.

Given the evidence that various forms of feminism have helped many people escape from violence and oppression, hard to think how any sensible person could dismiss all feminism so glibly.

[Robbie]

Gabriella, perhaps Humph will elaborate, I'm sure he would agree with what you said, there must be something more which irks him.

jeremy, thanks. I wouldn't have thought a journalist's opinions on Brexit would be sufficient reason to actually hate them; there are so many opinions and we can't hate everyone who differs in opinion from us. I've never seen Ippy express that about Laura K.

[ippy]

Gabriella, perhaps Humph will elaborate, I'm sure he would agree with what you said, there must be something more which irks him.

jeremy, thanks. I wouldn't have thought a journalist's opinions on Brexit would be sufficient reason to actually hate them; there are so many opinions and we can't hate everyone who differs in opinion from us. I've never seen Ippy express that about Laura K.

Rob, Laura K gives me the impression that anything pro Brexit is almost impossible for her to impart on air, it's a struggle for her.

I admit that I detest this fault of hers, as I have said in my previous post somewhere that I expect reporters to report the news for us to listen to and then make up our own minds about this "supposedly" impartial reporting for ourselves, it'd be good to hear more impartial reporting from all sorts of areas.

Regards ippy.

[jeremyp]

jeremy, thanks. I wouldn't have thought a journalist's opinions on Brexit would be sufficient reason to actually hate them; there are so many opinions and we can't hate everyone who differs in opinion from us. I've never seen Ippy express that about Laura K.

Wishing she would be punched in the face seems a pretty good example of expressing hatred.

[Robbie]

Yes. Ippy has explained above how he feels about Laura Kuenssberg's opinions and would like more impartial journalism - is there such a thing? I've not come across any on either side of the Brexit argument.

He hates her opinions but that's no reason to hate her personally or want her punched.

However I don't think he meant that remark to be taken literally.

[ippy]

Yes. Ippy has explained above how he feels about Laura Kuenssberg's opinions and would like more impartial journalism - is there such a thing? I've not come across any on either side of the Brexit argument.

He hates her opinions but that's no reason to hate her personally or want her punched.

However I don't think he meant that remark to be taken literally.

Her "Supposedly" impartial reporting

I've not used the word hate in anything I have written on this thread, I particularly used the word I much prefer, "detest".

I've not seen so many misreads of my posts as there are on this particular thread, I'm surprised, we all misread from time to time including myself but this thread takes the ticket.

ippy 

[Gordon]

One of the problems here though, ippy, is what you mean by 'impartial'.

Looking at the headlines today an impartial view could be that when all the rhetoric is put to one side the lack of substantive information about the reality of Brexit, along the incompetence of figures in the current government and Tory party, and when taking into account their persistent internal squabbling, suggest that Brexit isn't going well at all and is, put bluntly, a shambolic mess.

Reporting to the effect that Brexit was a great idea that was going swimmingly thanks to our wonderful PM and her competent colleagues would, of course, not be 'impartial' at all: after all, the headlines today confirm that the opposite is the case. 

[ippy]

One of the problems here though, ippy, is what you mean by 'impartial'.

Looking at the headlines today an impartial view could be that when all the rhetoric is put to one side the lack of substantive information about the reality of Brexit, along the incompetence of figures in the current government and Tory party, and when taking into account their persistent internal squabbling, suggest that Brexit isn't going well at all and is, put bluntly, a shambolic mess.

Reporting to the effect that Brexit was a great idea that was going swimmingly thanks to our wonderful PM and her competent colleagues would, of course, not be 'impartial' at all: after all, the headlines today confirm that the opposite is the case.

Of course there'll never be 100% impartiality in media reporting, my objection is more about the various 'reporters' standing in front of the cameras telling us something they like to refer to as "analysis", now that's something I don't expect from any reporter whatever their personal POV, they're there to just report the news, from the horses mouth where possible and then we can draw our own conclusions without some of the likes of Laura K's or any of other 'reporters' most uncalled for "analysis".

Can't remember when but it was two or three months back Laura k was taken off air for some revision about her presentation, something similar to when Jeremy Bowen was censured for his anti Israeli reporting where a fine was given to him as was the BBC its self fined at the same time, about five-seven years back, but of course that was far more serious than Laura K's case.

Regards ippy

[Robbie]

Detest = hate

detest
dɪˈtɛst/Submit
verb
verb: detest; 3rd person present: detests; past tense: detested; past participle: detested; gerund or present participle: detesting
dislike intensely.
"she really did detest his mockery"
synonyms:   abhor, hate, loathe, despise, abominate, execrate, regard with disgust, feel disgust for, feel repugnance towards, feel distaste for, shrink from, recoil from, shudder at, be unable to bear, be unable to abide, feel hostility to, feel aversion to, feel animosity to, find intolerable, dislike, disdain, have an aversion to; archaicdisrelish
"I do detest social climbers"

[Udayana]

Of course there'll never be 100% impartiality in media reporting, my objection is more about the various 'reporters' standing in front of the cameras telling us something they like to refer to as "analysis", now that's something I don't expect from any reporter whatever their personal POV, they're there to just report the news, from the horses mouth where possible and then we can draw our own conclusions without some of the likes of Laura K's or any of other 'reporters' most uncalled for "analysis".

Can't remember when but it was two or three months back Laura k was taken off air for some revision about her presentation, something similar to when Jeremy Bowen was censured for his anti Israeli reporting where a fine was given to him as was the BBC its self fined at the same time, about five-seven years back, but of course that was far more serious than Laura K's case.

Regards ippy

She is not a "reporter", but the BBC political editor, i.e. journalist and analyst. Overall, I think she does a great job, despite the slip last year over Corbyn's views on "shoot to kill" responses. 

Anyone wanting to prevent people appearing on TV because of their looks deserves censure of some sort.
 

[ippy]

Detest = hate

detest
dɪˈtɛst/Submit
verb
verb: detest; 3rd person present: detests; past tense: detested; past participle: detested; gerund or present participle: detesting
dislike intensely.
"she really did detest his mockery"
synonyms:   abhor, hate, loathe, despise, abominate, execrate, regard with disgust, feel disgust for, feel repugnance towards, feel distaste for, shrink from, recoil from, shudder at, be unable to bear, be unable to abide, feel hostility to, feel aversion to, feel animosity to, find intolerable, dislike, disdain, have an aversion to; archaicdisrelish
"I do detest social climbers"

I see 'detest' as a softer option and having checked my words before using 'detest', some see that word in the same way that I do and a lot of the misreading of my posts, I suspect, there' a touch of the remoaner being picky, (note the ref to I suspect being picky), of course I might be wrong.

If you look back to the content of my posts on this thread it shouldn't be a surprise to you the amount of times my posts were misread, disliked fine I'll live with that, misread,  well why so many misreads?

Regards ippy

[ippy]

She is not a "reporter", but the BBC political editor, i.e. journalist and analyst. Overall, I think she does a great job, despite the slip last year over Corbyn's views on "shoot to kill" responses. 

Anyone wanting to prevent people appearing on TV because of their looks deserves censure of some sort.

I've not made any reference to the looks of anyone reporting the news, nor am I interested in their looks?

Regards ippy

[Robbie]

I've not made any reference to the looks of anyone reporting the news, nor am I interested in their looks?

Regards ippy

He didn't say you did. That bit of Udayana's posts was a general observation.

Detest, hate, loathe, abhor, whatever (they all mean the same), but I didn't think you detested the woman, only her views & I said that.

Neither did I think your original remark about decking her (or whatever word you used), was meant seriously.

So I don't believe I misunderstood you. You may have misunderstood me but who cares?