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Anchorman

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Dying for change?
« on: September 12, 2018, 09:54:55 AM »
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Re: Dying for change?
« Reply #1 on: September 15, 2018, 01:47:19 AM »
Did you really expect replies?

If truth be known then the fact is people don't care if people on benefits who are really sick and disabled kill themselves.
The government have labelled them all lazy and unwilling to work. So under the hatred and false rage they have ignited in the public
they don't care if terminally ill people have their benefits removed or mentally ill people thrown on streets because they cannot fight for their benefits and have no one to support them.

Do you know something... If God removed his provision and all plant life and animal life and only humans left. Then all those superior people who believe their hard work provides for themselves and others would realise their money like their hard work is worth NOTHING without the provision of God in the world. It is food and the source which gives any meaning or value to work or money.


As a Christian, I have thought long and hard over such matters. The arrogance of man to believe he provides for even himself is a false economy in reality.   We are not the USA who leave their people and families on the street and do nothing. But we are getting there fast. Because false representation is being made both by the Government and those they are employing to do the medicals for disabled and unfit people. They are told to fail them.. yes terminally ill people with months and even weeks to live are declared fit for work so benefits are stopped and they are left to starve to death and die even quicker.

No one wants to face reality...
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Re: Dying for change?
« Reply #2 on: September 15, 2018, 08:10:04 AM »
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If truth be known then the fact is people don't care if people on benefits who are really sick and disabled kill themselves.

Reading minds again?

As someone who has  a friend who attempted suicide recently as a result of being on benefits for many years and now finding those benefits severely cut, I think you could perhaps cut out the use of sweeping generalisations.
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Re: Dying for change?
« Reply #3 on: September 15, 2018, 08:16:05 AM »
The reason that I didn't comment is because I feel so helpless. The actions that can be taken don't really make a difference. Donating to a food bank is just a sticking plaster solution; writing to my waste-of-space Tory MP achieves nothing. I really don't understand the country that I live in any more.

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Re: Dying for change?
« Reply #4 on: September 15, 2018, 09:48:56 AM »
Trouble is, though, generalisation or not, Sass is mostly right. Too many people label people on benefits as scroungers - media brainwashing - and certain caegories of sdisability, particularly those with learning difficulties, as fake - simply because the can't see the disability. That a horrific proportion of suicides have been disabled people is a fact tht the government either chooses to ifnore or dismisses - but each suicide - or in Tren't's ffriend's case, attempted suicide, is an individual who has suffered the benefits shambles beyond endurance. Here's anothe link - stories of some of those individuals, each one verified. That it does not shame the government is a scandal. http://calumslist.org/
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Re: Dying for change?
« Reply #5 on: September 15, 2018, 10:49:28 AM »
Trouble is, though, generalisation or not, Sass is mostly right. Too many people label people on benefits as scroungers - media brainwashing
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Re: Dying for change?
« Reply #6 on: November 10, 2018, 12:25:12 AM »
Reading minds again?

As someone who has  a friend who attempted suicide recently as a result of being on benefits for many years and now finding those benefits severely cut, I think you could perhaps cut out the use of sweeping generalisations.
You have a friend?  Worked with people on benefits for a number of years. Been on the streets and seen first hand what living there does even with benefits.
The average age a person on the street is expected to live to is 47.   I don't read minds, I knows the facts.. A taste of reality of speaking and seeing the reality of those on low incomes and those mentally ill on the street. That will make you see that it is not a matter for you to snipe or jeer at others who do know the reality and toughness.  Suicide can be for many reasons. One guy lost his wife and two children in a car crash he ended up on the streets he did not know how to cope and lost everything and attempted suicide several times. There are so many different stories all heart rending and as important for each person. Their reality isn't changed by arguments it is changed by people caring enough to speak out and do something about it. You might want to think of the heart ache out there.
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Re: Dying for change?
« Reply #7 on: December 01, 2018, 07:50:49 AM »
Reading minds again?

As someone who has  a friend who attempted suicide recently as a result of being on benefits for many years and now finding those benefits severely cut, I think you could perhaps cut out the use of sweeping generalisations.

Having seen it first hand for many years, I know what I am talking about. My niece attempted suicide over 5 times in one week. Each time the hospital released her without telling family with more medication and she died at a bus stop after one such overdose and  was resuscitated by paramedics.  My niece has Multiple sclerosis, is Bi- Polar and now they say they have found her heart condition which they said had disappeared. Her bi-polar was result of the trauma of being raped. Messing with dosages of medications has her up and down like a yo-yo. The hospital kept releasing her with more medication to kill herself again and again. Even when told she cannot be released on her own.

Benefit cuts have affected EVERYONE and the suicides are not being reported to the public.  In the woods( close to where I live) earlier this year a Christian guy was found hanged.  The Coroner came to my home and asked if he could access the woodland at the back of the house as a body had been reported.  I told him I thought he had been given the wrong address, more likely further down. He crossed checked and police given wrong information. He then explained that was the 26th suicide if I remember rightly that week some figure like that. That the number of deaths he is increasingly be called to attend are more than doubling this year alone. 


If you voted for Conservative and you believe your hard earned tax is paying for them then think again. You have blood on your hands believing the poor and jobless just idle.
Fact is when your jobs go too. You are going to reap what you sow be in the same hard financial position you created for others.
As believer in GOD and in Christ, I see that the truth is that your hard work and your tax would be worth absolutely NOTHING if God failed to provide crops etc.

God created us and we all have a right to basic food and shelter. These things should have no say in our politics. It should be mandatory that people are given food and shelter.
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Re: Dying for change?
« Reply #8 on: December 01, 2018, 11:27:38 AM »
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You are so compassionate, wish we saw more of you.
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