One racist PM supports another

[ProfessorDavey]

That still leaves the fact that May hasn't spoken out against the vote ...

But you are being simplistic - now I don't agree, but I gather the reason the Conservative MEPs voted as they did (or at least their official line) wasn't to support Orban but because they felt that the very notion of the European Parliament voting to censure the government and leader of a member state was overstepping their authority. In other words on a matter of principal. And certainly if you believe that the EU should be subservient to its member states you can see why that isn't an unreasonable argument.

[ProfessorDavey]

Since you ignored the rest of the post, no.

Which I've addressed above.

[ProfessorDavey]

And just to add, you seem also to have ignored the point about Organ being the racist PM supporting May, another racist PM which was the point of the OP.

You do like banding the word racist around, don't you.

[ProfessorDavey]

That still leaves the fact that May hasn't spoken out against the vote, that Orban is a racist and May is a racist.

I agree that it is factually correct that May hasn't commented on the vote.

It is an opinion that Orban is a racist (albeit one that is fairly easy to justify). It is an opinion that May is a racist (albeit I suspect rather more difficult to justify than Orban). It is not, however, a fact.

[Nearly Sane]

You do like banding the word racist around, don't you.

Not sure what point you are trying to make here? Are you saying Organ isn't a racist? Or that May isn't?

[Nearly Sane]

I agree that it is factually correct that May hasn't commented on the vote.

It is an opinion that Orban is a racist (albeit one that is fairly easy to justify). It is an opinion that May is a racist (albeit I suspect rather more difficult to justify than Orban). It is not, however, a fact.

of course it isn't a fact that anyone is a racist. So do you think Organ is a racist? Do you think May is a racist?

[Nearly Sane]

But you are being simplistic - now I don't agree, but I gather the reason the Conservative MEPs voted as they did (or at least their official line) wasn't to support Orban but because they felt that the very notion of the European Parliament voting to censure the government and leader of a member state was overstepping their authority. In other words on a matter of principal. And certainly if you believe that the EU should be subservient to its member states you can see why that isn't an unreasonable argument.

Did the vote support Orban in his actions? Do you think Orban is a racist?

[ProfessorDavey]

of course it isn't a fact that anyone is a racist.

Then why did you imply it to be in your sentence:

'That still leaves the fact that May hasn't spoken out against the vote, that Orban is a racist and May is a racist.'

[ProfessorDavey]

Did the vote support Orban in his actions?

But that wasn't the point you were making - your claim was that May, not the Tory MEPs (who have autonomous shipping arrangements to the Westminster party) was supporting Orban.

[Nearly Sane]

Then why did you imply it to be in your sentence:

'That still leaves the fact that May hasn't spoken out against the vote, that Orban is a racist and May is a racist.'

Because the first part is a fact, and the second and third parts are are opinions. Why did you edit the post and not answer the questions?

[ProfessorDavey]

So do you think Organ is a racist?

From what I know of him - yes.

Do you think May is a racist?

From what I know of her - no.

[Nearly Sane]

From what I know of him - yes.
From what I know of her - no.

So you appear to have missed her role as Home Secretary?

[Nearly Sane]

But that wasn't the point you were making - your claim was that May, not the Tory MEPs (who have autonomous shipping arrangements to the Westminster party) was supporting Orban.

So we have the fact that the Tories MEPs supported Orban. We have the fact that May is the leader of the Tory party. And that she hasn't said anything against it.

And if course the fact that Orban was supporting May's plan.

[ProfessorDavey]

So you appear to have missed her role as Home Secretary?

Nope

[Anchorman]

I have to ask. What's to like?

Seconded.

[ProfessorDavey]

So we have the fact that the Tories MEPs supported Orban. We have the fact that May is the leader of the Tory party. And that she hasn't said anything against it.

And if course the fact that Orban was supporting May's plan.

None of which leads to your claim, namely that May supports Orban.