Same Sex Marriage Re-Visited.

[Udayana]

I hope the time will come when it will be one's personality which counts, not race, creed, gender or sexuality.

"Counts" for what?

[Roses]

"Counts" for what?

For whether you are acceptable to others.

[Rhiannon]

For whether you are acceptable to others.

What's an 'acceptable' personality?

[Roses]

What's an 'acceptable' personality?

If you are decent honest person or low life trash who have no scruples.

[Nearly Sane]

female, male, transgender

Two of those are sexes, not gender.

[Roses]

Two of those are sexes, not gender.

According to the dictionary gender refers to being male or female.

[Nearly Sane]

According to the dictionary gender refers to being male or female.

In relation to social constructs, not as regards biology. There is a difference between sex and gender.

[Roses]

In relation to social constructs, not as regards biology. There is a difference between sex and gender.

If you say so.

[Nearly Sane]

If you say so.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender

[Rhiannon]

If you are decent honest person or low life trash who have no scruples.

So who gets to judge this? What makes someone ‘decent’ and what makes them ‘low life’, whilst makes a person ‘trash’ and what is ‘honesty’? And when you’ve defined all that, what should happen to the unacceptable?

[Rhiannon]

If you say so.

He isn’t just saying so. He knows more about it than you.

[Spud]

That wasn't my point. Are you happy that someone should discriminate against you because of the prejudiced views you hold against people in gay relationships?

Prejudice means a preconceived opinion that is not based on reason or actual experience. My opinion is not preconceived and is based on both reason and experience. Homosexual relationships cannot fulfill people. As Anchorman says, the right place for sex is within marriage between a male and a female.

[Aruntraveller]

Homosexual relationships cannot fulfill people.

Fullfills me, so you are wrong. Therefore your prejudice is based on false reasoning.

The right place for sex is in any number of places.

You do know life isn't exactly the same for everybody?

[Nearly Sane]

Prejudice means a preconceived opinion that is not based on reason or actual experience. My opinion is not preconceived and is based on both reason and experience. Homosexual relationships cannot fulfill people. As Anchorman says, the right place for sex is within marriage between a male and a female.

you have shown no reason or experience here. I am just popping out to see my friends David and James and they have just told me their relationship is deeply fulfilling. So you are by their experience wrong, and by that reason talking mince.

[Roses]

Prejudice means a preconceived opinion that is not based on reason or actual experience. My opinion is not preconceived and is based on both reason and experience. Homosexual relationships cannot fulfill people. As Anchorman says, the right place for sex is within marriage between a male and a female.

You don't half talk some nonsense, of course a gay relationship can be a fulfilling as a straight one.

[Rhiannon]

Prejudice means a preconceived opinion that is not based on reason or actual experience. My opinion is not preconceived and is based on both reason and experience. Homosexual relationships cannot fulfill people. As Anchorman says, the right place for sex is within marriage between a male and a female.

Spud, whatever you base your judgements on, it definitely isn’t experience.

[SteveH]

I hope the time will come when it will be one's personality which counts, not race, creed, gender or sexuality.

You have a dream?

[Roses]

You have a dream?

It probably is a dream, but one I wish would come true.

[Rhiannon]

That vision isn't a dream, it's a nightmare of subjective values and judgements.

A world where we are all treated equal will do. Because some personalities will always be viewed as more equal than others.

[Roses]

That vision isn't a dream, it's a nightmare of subjective values and judgements.

A world where we are all treated equal will do. Because some personalities will always be viewed as more equal than others.

I could comment but probably better if I don't.

[Rhiannon]

I could comment but probably better if I don't.

Why? Equality not your thing then?

[Roses]

Why? Equality not your thing then?

It depends on your definition of equality.

[Rhiannon]

It depends on your definition of equality.

So who falls outside your idea of equality?

[Roses]

So who falls outside your idea of equality?

Are people like Hindley and Brady equal to a good decent person who has spent their lives helping others?

[Robbie]

Rhiannon has started a thread in the Philosophy section, about the worth of human life. There is a link to an article about the late Michael Young, sociologist and politician.  You might find it interesting LR.