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Khan al-Ahmar
« on: October 19, 2018, 08:27:23 AM »
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Re: Khan al-Ahmar
« Reply #1 on: October 19, 2018, 11:07:14 AM »
Agreed  :(
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« Reply #2 on: October 19, 2018, 11:16:56 AM »
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Re: Khan al-Ahmar
« Reply #3 on: October 19, 2018, 11:29:05 AM »
Quote from: Rhiannon on October 19, 2018, 11:16:56 AM
Is there anything we can do?
Boycott Israeli goods. I and many other people do individually, but it could be done by the government.
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« Reply #4 on: October 19, 2018, 02:53:41 PM »
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« Reply #5 on: October 19, 2018, 10:39:40 PM »
Both bookmarked - thanks. I might do some Krimbo prezzy buying from them.
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Re: Khan al-Ahmar
« Reply #6 on: October 20, 2018, 06:48:35 PM »
If you are going to boycott Israeli goods, you should also be boycotting Palestinian goods. It's not as if the people running the Palestinian areas are paragons of virtue.
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Re: Khan al-Ahmar
« Reply #7 on: October 20, 2018, 07:59:58 PM »
Quote from: jeremyp on October 20, 2018, 06:48:35 PM
If you are going to boycott Israeli goods, you should also be boycotting Palestinian goods. It's not as if the people running the Palestinian areas are paragons of virtue.

Given what China gets up to most goods should be boycotted.
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« Reply #8 on: October 20, 2018, 10:19:49 PM »
The village has no source of power, so in 2015 a Palestinian organisation donated solar panels to give the villagers a form of electricity but Israel had them taken down.

Huge trucks of human excrement were brought in and dumped flooding the ground next to the villagers homes in an attempt to make them leave.

Israel had a place marked out for the villagers to relocate to that was next to a municipal dump where the stench was appalling. These defenceless people are still fighting to stay in their rightful home but it's looking very grim.

The creator of this video is a geo-political investigator and has contacts across the middle-east. The beginning of this report is footage from Khan Al-Ahmar from one of these contacts and is very disturbing.

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rthUyt0e-tY
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Re: Khan al-Ahmar
« Reply #9 on: October 21, 2018, 10:26:22 PM »
Quote from: jeremyp on October 20, 2018, 06:48:35 PM
If you are going to boycott Israeli goods, you should also be boycotting Palestinian goods. It's not as if the people running the Palestinian areas are paragons of virtue.
Indeed - but they are the victims, and Israel is the oppressor.
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« Reply #10 on: October 21, 2018, 10:31:29 PM »
Quote from: Steve H on October 21, 2018, 10:26:22 PM
Indeed - but they are the victims, and Israel is the oppressor.

Everyone has to do what they feel is best. Personally I like to offer support through buying from individuals and co-operatives where possible.
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Re: Khan al-Ahmar
« Reply #11 on: October 21, 2018, 10:41:40 PM »
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DO please refresh us as to when Palestine - 'home' of the so-called Palestinians (should we really say MUSLIMS???) was proclaimed. ????

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« Reply #12 on: October 21, 2018, 10:41:42 PM »
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Re: Khan al-Ahmar
« Reply #13 on: October 21, 2018, 10:44:03 PM »
Quote from: Steve H on October 19, 2018, 10:39:40 PM
Both bookmarked - thanks. I might do some Krimbo prezzy buying from them.


While you're at it, have a look at OTRF - the "Olive tree reconciliation fund"; They do a lot of good work bringing Israeli Jewish and Palestinians together.
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Re: Khan al-Ahmar
« Reply #14 on: October 21, 2018, 10:47:01 PM »
Quote from: trippymonkey on October 21, 2018, 10:41:40 PM
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DO please refresh us as to when Palestine - 'home' of the so-called Palestinians (should we really say MUSLIMS???) was proclaimed. ????

Nick
   


Er....it might be argued that "Palestinians"...'Palestinu' - Biblical 'Philistines' - have lived in the area since Ramesses III kicked them out of Egypt in the eleventh century BC......That's what DNA tends to confirm, anyway....
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Re: Khan al-Ahmar
« Reply #15 on: October 21, 2018, 10:52:17 PM »
Quote from: trippymonkey on October 21, 2018, 10:41:40 PM
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DO please refresh us as to when Palestine - 'home' of the so-called Palestinians (should we really say MUSLIMS???) was proclaimed. ????

Nick
This, I take it, is the usual totally irrelevant bollocks from the Zionists that there never was a state called Palestine. So what? If you must post bollocks, at least make it original bollocks.
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Re: Khan al-Ahmar
« Reply #16 on: October 21, 2018, 10:57:19 PM »
Excuse ME ?!?!? Darling !!! I'm referring to MUSLIMS NOT who was living there BEFORE the Muslims invaded ?!?!?!

Do please read my post properly !!!!
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« Reply #17 on: October 21, 2018, 11:03:03 PM »
Quote from: trippymonkey on October 21, 2018, 10:57:19 PM
Excuse ME ?!?!? Darling !!! I'm referring to MUSLIMS NOT who was living there BEFORE the Muslims invaded ?!?!?!

Do please read my post properly !!!!
   




You do know that, in a census in the 1990s, 15% of Palestinians self-identified as Christian?
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Re: Khan al-Ahmar
« Reply #18 on: October 22, 2018, 09:57:53 PM »
And that REALLY makes a difference, eh ?!?!?!?
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« Reply #19 on: October 22, 2018, 11:08:38 PM »
Quote from: trippymonkey on October 22, 2018, 09:57:53 PM
And that REALLY makes a difference, eh ?!?!?!?
 



Yes.
It means that they do not associate their faith with their nationality.
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Re: Khan al-Ahmar
« Reply #20 on: October 23, 2018, 05:11:47 AM »
Quote from: trippymonkey on October 21, 2018, 10:41:40 PM
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DO please refresh us as to when Palestine - 'home' of the so-called Palestinians (should we really say MUSLIMS???) was proclaimed. ????

Nick

Don't be silly. What if a group of people claiming to be descendents of ancient druids started moving to England, claiming it as theirs, knocking down your home and putting you in what is essentially a ghetto? That is what it happening in Palestine.

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Re: Khan al-Ahmar
« Reply #21 on: October 23, 2018, 08:01:03 AM »
Quote from: ad_orientem on October 23, 2018, 05:11:47 AM
Don't be silly. What if a group of people claiming to be descendents of ancient druids started moving to England, claiming it as theirs, knocking down your home and putting you in what is essentially a ghetto? That is what it happening in Palestine.
Exactly. That there was never an independent state called Palestine is a complete red herring.
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Re: Khan al-Ahmar
« Reply #22 on: October 23, 2018, 08:57:56 AM »
This series of maps shows graphically what Palestinians have lost over the decades since Zionism came to Palestine. 

https://epfnational.org/map-palestine-years/
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