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Doctor Who.
« on: October 22, 2018, 02:35:57 PM »
Anyone else watch last night's episode, third in the new season? Entitled "Rosa", it was an encounter with Rosa Parks...and a"timey-wimey" villain. I though it dealt with 1950's American race issues pretty well. Most of the best 'Classic' Who stories were historical (far too many of them now lost); this should be ranked among them. Thoughtfully written and very well acted.
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Re: Doctor Who.
« Reply #1 on: October 22, 2018, 02:55:16 PM »
Haven't seen it yet. Enjoyed the series so far. There seems to be a theme about racism/speciesism so far.
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« Reply #2 on: October 22, 2018, 03:37:23 PM »
Quote from: Nearly Sane on October 22, 2018, 02:55:16 PM
Haven't seen it yet. Enjoyed the series so far. There seems to be a theme about racism/speciesism so far.


Last night's "Rosa" was probably the best one of the modern era, IMHO.
The writing was superb.
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« Reply #3 on: October 22, 2018, 03:51:52 PM »
Definitely packed an emotional punch . I'd rank it up there with RTD's 1st world war episode, title escapes me.
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Re: Doctor Who.
« Reply #4 on: October 22, 2018, 03:58:01 PM »
Quote from: Trentvoyager on October 22, 2018, 03:51:52 PM
Definitely packed an emotional punch . I'd rank it up there with RTD's 1st world war episode, title escapes me.
   




"Family of blood"?



Can I help it if I'm a geek? ;)
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« Reply #5 on: October 22, 2018, 04:02:10 PM »
Thats the one. Two parter I think. 2nd part infinitely stronger than the first. The curse of RTD, one week brilliant, the next meh.
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« Reply #6 on: October 22, 2018, 04:08:11 PM »
Quote from: Trentvoyager on October 22, 2018, 04:02:10 PM
Thats the one. Two parter I think. 2nd part infinitely stronger than the first. The curse of RTD, one week brilliant, the next meh.
It's not an RTD written episode. The first one is called Human Nature. Both written by Paul Cornell - geek too.


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« Reply #7 on: October 22, 2018, 06:21:36 PM »
Quote from: Nearly Sane on October 22, 2018, 04:08:11 PM
It's not an RTD written episode. The first one is called Human Nature. Both written by Paul Cornell - geek too.

Apologies. Still the curse though  ;)
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« Reply #8 on: October 22, 2018, 08:40:44 PM »
So watched it. Certainly feels more like the original remit in terms of education. Accents were all over the place but good bit of acting. Third time in a row the 'villain' has disappeared/been disappeared.
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« Reply #9 on: October 22, 2018, 09:31:08 PM »
Quote from: Nearly Sane on October 22, 2018, 08:40:44 PM
So watched it. Certainly feels more like the original remit in terms of education. Accents were all over the place but good bit of acting. Third time in a row the 'villain' has disappeared/been disappeared.
Maybe that's the story arc.
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« Reply #10 on: October 22, 2018, 09:42:43 PM »
Quote from: The poster formerly known as.... on October 22, 2018, 09:31:08 PM
Maybe that's the story arc.
Chibnall has said that there is no arc but show runners, like the Doctor, lie. Given the Timeless Child reference in episode  2 and these disappearing villains, and the sort of racism theme so far, so have to wonder.
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« Reply #11 on: October 22, 2018, 10:41:24 PM »
Woss RTD?
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« Reply #12 on: October 22, 2018, 10:58:44 PM »
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« Reply #13 on: October 23, 2018, 08:04:06 AM »
Ta.
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« Reply #14 on: October 23, 2018, 08:14:46 AM »
Just read about 'Family of Blood' on Wikipedia. Damn - wish I'd seen it.
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« Reply #15 on: October 23, 2018, 11:06:02 AM »
Quote from: Steve H on October 23, 2018, 08:14:46 AM
Just read about 'Family of Blood' on Wikipedia. Damn - wish I'd seen it.
Might be on Iplayer. The earlier series of Doctor Who were on it in run up to launch of Jodie Whittaker as Doctor. You need to watch the start of the 2 parter Human Nature, which I think is better than Trentvoyager's estimate, as well. They are then followed by the rather magnificent Blink.

And apologies about the gnomic RTD stuff - I sometimes think that Doctor Who would fit better on the Faith Sharing Area for the geeks amongst us.
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« Reply #16 on: October 23, 2018, 11:28:52 AM »
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« Reply #17 on: October 23, 2018, 12:30:27 PM »
Quote from: Nearly Sane on October 23, 2018, 11:06:02 AM
Might be on Iplayer. The earlier series of Doctor Who were on it in run up to launch of Jodie Whittaker as Doctor. You need to watch the start of the 2 parter Human Nature, which I think is better than Trentvoyager's estimate, as well. They are then followed by the rather magnificent Blink.

And apologies about the gnomic RTD stuff - I sometimes think that Doctor Who would fit better on the Faith Sharing Area for the geeks amongst us.
   



"blink" was, indeed, superb.
Mind you all the "Weeping Angels" eps were pretty good.
"Angels in Manhattan" was a winner as well.
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« Reply #18 on: October 23, 2018, 12:38:34 PM »
Quote from: Stranger on October 23, 2018, 11:28:52 AM
Human Nature
The Family of Blood
Great - thanks! I'll watch them tomorrow, when I've got time.
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« Reply #19 on: October 23, 2018, 10:56:48 PM »
I think it's good when it's referred to as Time Lord-Lady stories but not totally convinced of it being THE Dr.

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« Reply #20 on: October 23, 2018, 11:05:12 PM »
It'd be interesting if the Doctor met up with his/her granddaughter Susan from the earliest days, perhaps now a man after a number of regenerations, and a fully-fledged Time Lord/Lady (Time Lordy?).
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« Reply #21 on: October 24, 2018, 09:26:00 PM »
I haven't watched Dr Who since the David Tennant/Billie Piper outing which was very enjoyable. I was curious to see Jodie Whittaker's take though and think she is doing a brilliant job.

The first episode I thought very good; was not so keen on the second episode; the third, Rosa Parks, episode, as others have already mentioned, I too found excellent. Well done to all involved.
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Re: Doctor Who.
« Reply #22 on: October 28, 2018, 11:34:23 PM »
So more standard fare this evening with giant spiders, but picking up on NS's observation last week yet another villain left without any proper conclusion; so is Chibnall up to something?

Also did anyone else notice a nod to "The Shining" in the opening shots of the hotel or was that just me?
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« Reply #23 on: October 29, 2018, 08:59:14 AM »
Quote from: Trentvoyager on October 28, 2018, 11:34:23 PM
So more standard fare this evening with giant spiders, but picking up on NS's observation last week yet another villain left without any proper conclusion; so is Chibnall up to something?

Also did anyone else notice a nod to "The Shining" in the opening shots of the hotel or was that just me?


Last night was good - again.
I was reminded of the Jon Pertwee story "The Green Death", qhich marked Katy Manning's last outing as Jo Grant.
The premis was pretty similar, in that the 'baddies' were all too human.
I agree that there's a loose end here.
I note from other sites that many Americans are banging on about the 'politicisation' of the show.
Their memories do not appear to stretch back to the classic era, then.
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Re: Doctor Who.
« Reply #24 on: October 29, 2018, 09:11:03 AM »
Quote from: Anchorman on October 29, 2018, 08:59:14 AM

Last night was good - again.
I was reminded of the Jon Pertwee story "The Green Death", qhich marked Katy Manning's last outing as Jo Grant.
The premis was pretty similar, in that the 'baddies' were all too human.
I agree that there's a loose end here.
I note from other sites that many Americans are banging on about the 'politicisation' of the show.
Their memories do not appear to stretch back to the classic era, then.
Yes, The Green Death was much more politicised than last night's. Some good bits on character development but felt the resolution was a bit rushed. To an extent, I thought Chris Noth was wasted a bit but am hoping that there is something behind these series of non resolutions.
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