Will Brexit Kill?

[Walt Zingmatilder]

The health secretary Hancock cannot apparently guarantee that no one will die because of no deal Brexit.
May apparently skated over the issue with Ferrari on LBC.

Will Brexit kill? Will that make No deal murderers?
How will responsibility in this matter be denied?

[ad_orientem]

Eh?

[Roses]

The health secretary Hancock cannot apparently guarantee that no one will die because of no deal Brexit.
May apparently skated over the issue with Ferrari on LBC.

Will Brexit kill? Will that make No deal murderers?
How will responsibility in this matter be denied?

What on earth are you talking about?

[Robbie]

If some are impoverished after Brexit,they could starve. I can't see it happening but some believe it might happen and are stockpiling tinned food.

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The they're idiots.

[Udayana]

The question was essentially about whether anyone could die because of problems with drug supplies on a no-deal brexit.

[wigginhall]

Yes, I thought the worry is about medicines, especially  those that need refrigeration.   I think there are plans to fly some in, but it must be scary if you rely on them.

[Walt Zingmatilder]

Yes, I thought the worry is about medicines, especially  those that need refrigeration.   I think there are plans to fly some in, but it must be scary if you rely on them.

Even if medicines come under a special treaty there is the question of being held up if the ports are ballsed.

Time to reopen Manston perhaps.

[Sassy]

The health secretary Hancock cannot apparently guarantee that no one will die because of no deal Brexit.
May apparently skated over the issue with Ferrari on LBC.

Will Brexit kill? Will that make No deal murderers?
How will responsibility in this matter be denied?

People are already dying with or without Brexit. Two people found dead living on the streets in one night last week or so.

Children can now be thrown on the streets with their parent's and our people and our forces are on the street yet the Government brings people in and finds them homes first.
Brexit - is the only way forward for this Country to stop being rules by OUTSIDE forces who tell us what we can and cannot do.
What I am amazed at, is the way everyone shoves their head in the sand and fails to recognise that we were loosing our identity as a nation and the EU is a legal form of Hitlers idea to unite all the countries under one leader.. 

Nothing about the EU is good for Britain and we should have learned our lesson.  Whose next to leave the EU? I guess some only entered because Britain in it. How many will want to exit now?

[Roses]

We will be much worse off financially, and in other ways, if we leave the EU.

[Aruntraveller]

Brexit - is the only way forward for this Country to stop being rules by OUTSIDE forces who tell us what we can and cannot do.

You really don't get it do you. The way this country is currently is down to domestic politics. It's got very little to do with the EU. You don't believe me?

Look at every policy decision taken to do with homelessness or mental health or the health service or social services or the police force and on and on.

The policy decisions were taken here with no input from the EU. They were by and large the wrong policy decision taken by an out of touch government presently led by a deluded woman who thinks that by her sheer presence of non-personality can force some kind of miracle in parliament.

It's always been easy to use the EU as a scapegoat for everything that goes wrong in this disunited country, but the truth is the blame lies much closer to home.

The way we are manipulated to see the poor and homeless and black people as our enemies when they are part of our society is disgraceful and it has fuck all to do with the EU no matter how flawed that institution is.

[jeremyp]

People are already dying with or without Brexit. Two people found dead living on the streets in one night last week or so.

Children can now be thrown on the streets with their parent's and our people and our forces are on the street yet the Government brings people in and finds them homes first.
Brexit - is the only way forward for this Country to stop being rules by OUTSIDE forces who tell us what we can and cannot do.
What I am amazed at, is the way everyone shoves their head in the sand and fails to recognise that we were loosing our identity as a nation and the EU is a legal form of Hitlers idea to unite all the countries under one leader.. 

Nothing about the EU is good for Britain and we should have learned our lesson.  Whose next to leave the EU? I guess some only entered because Britain in it. How many will want to exit now?

Do you know what? The EU has absolutely nothing to do with our homeless problem. The people dying that you refer to did not die because of anything the EU did. They died because our safety net that our government that we elected is inadequate.

[Rhiannon]

Do you know what? The EU has absolutely nothing to do with our homeless problem. The people dying that you refer to did not die because of anything the EU did. They died because our safety net that our government that we elected is inadequate.

Well to be fair there are homeless EU citizens in the UK. They don't get priority housing though. They get this.

https://www.theguardian.com/housing-network/2017/dec/20/brexit-bonfire-legal-protection-homeless-eu-migrants

[Spud]

the EU is a legal form of Hitlers idea to unite all the countries under one leader.. 

Don't compare the EU to the Nazis, who gassed civilians. Do you think the people who fought the Nazis would agree with you?

[Roses]

Don't compare the EU to the Nazis, who gassed civilians. Do you think the people who fought the Nazis would agree with you?

That comment made by Sass was without any justification, imo.

[ad_orientem]

Apparently the EU wants to make criticsm of migration a criminal offence. Lot's to dislike about the EU. Plenty of reason to leave.

[SteveH]

Brexit - is the only way forward for this Country to stop being rules by OUTSIDE forces who tell us what we can and cannot do.
What I am amazed at, is the way everyone shoves their head in the sand and fails to recognise that we were loosing our identity as a nation and the EU is a legal form of Hitlers idea to unite all the countries under one leader.. 

Nothing about the EU is good for Britain and we should have learned our lesson.  Whose next to leave the EU? I guess some only entered because Britain in it. How many will want to exit now?

What an incredibly bloody stupid post - and as such, apart from the better grammar and spelling, about typical of all the Brexshitter posts on Facebook I keep reading.

[Robbie]

Children can now be thrown on the streets with their parent's and our people and our forces are on the street yet the Government brings people in and finds them homes first.

Which children are put out on the street and with their parent's 'what'?  Property?
I've not known of any government that brings people in and finds them homes 'first'. First in what? Maybe b&b for refugees. I wouldn't ban refugees but you are talking about EU migrants, some of whom I know.  They work, often in jobs that the native UK people won't do, and they live in house shares, very overcrowded, for which they pay rent. Hardly a drain on our society. Would that more people were so hard working.

[jeremyp]

Apparently the EU wants to make criticsm of migration a criminal offence. Lot's to dislike about the EU. Plenty of reason to leave.

Campaign to have your country veto the idea. The EU is not some separate body beamed in by aliens. It consists of governments and commissioners and MEPs from the member states. Don’t blame the EU as though you had nothing to do with it.

[JP]

Campaign to have your country veto the idea. The EU is not some separate body beamed in by aliens. It consists of governments and commissioners and MEPs from the member states. Don’t blame the EU as though you had nothing to do with it.

Campaign? Recent events have converted me to being a believer that what the government and political elite want to happen will happen, regardless of any campaigning, lobbying or petition. Lip service is all that is given.

[JP]

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/232698

I expect this will reach the figure required for a debate as it runs until May 2019. It is past the 10,000 figure but as yet no response from the Government.

Waste of time I would say. In fact I believe this on line petition thing is pointless, unless anyone can point me to one which has actually been successful. As far as I am aware reaching 100,000 and having it debated in Parliament means thank you, but no, we are ignoring it as it is not what we want to happen so go away and crawl back into your hole.

 

[Udayana]

It is a UN treaty and:

• Nothing to do with the EU
• Not binding or mandatory on any country
• Does not "make criticism of migration a criminal offence"

... so the usual media rubbish designed to stir up an immediate reaction preferably "over the top".

[jeremyp]

Campaign? Recent events have converted me to being a believer that what the government and political elite want to happen will happen, regardless of any campaigning, lobbying or petition. Lip service is all that is given.

Is that the British government? If so, surely we need the EU to keep it well behaved. For example, when we are out of the EU, the government will be able to repeal a lot of the protections for employees that the EU has put in place. I can see why Jacob Rees Mogg and Nigel Farage might like that, but I doubt it will be a good thing for anybody on this message board who is still working.

[Walt Zingmatilder]

Since a hard Brexit is a possibility and no one in the EU is going to be harmed the thread title should now be why are brexitters prepared to see British people die for a hard Brexit?

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Since a hard Brexit is a possibility and no one in the EU is going to be harmed the thread title should now be why are brexitters prepared to see British people die for a hard Brexit?

Who's going to kick the bucket?