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Walt Zingmatilder

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Re: Religion has stepped on science's turf?
« Reply #225 on: December 02, 2018, 09:39:15 AM »
Quote from: Littleroses on December 02, 2018, 08:59:28 AM

The idea of the so called 'trinity' makes no sense at all, imo.
It describes two ways in which we encounter God and a third way that we have an inkling of but what Jesus shows us.

So God the son, God the Father and God the holy spirit.
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Re: Religion has stepped on science's turf?
« Reply #226 on: December 02, 2018, 10:34:48 AM »
Quote from: Phyllis Tyne on December 02, 2018, 09:39:15 AM
It describes two ways in which we encounter God and a third way that we have an inkling of but what Jesus shows us.

So God the son, God the Father and God the holy spirit.

Nonsensical.
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Re: Religion has stepped on science's turf?
« Reply #227 on: December 02, 2018, 10:43:56 AM »
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Re: Religion has stepped on science's turf?
« Reply #228 on: December 02, 2018, 10:46:33 AM »
Quote from: Steve H on December 01, 2018, 12:24:13 PM
Phyllis was right: the ignorance is alarming.
No Steve, everything you are reading on this thread about the irrationality of Christian doctrine comes from one form of Christianity or another. It only sounds silly because we are not reading it through the centuries of obfuscation that has accreted in order to make it sound less bonkers.
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Re: Religion has stepped on science's turf?
« Reply #229 on: December 02, 2018, 10:50:06 AM »
Quote from: Littleroses on December 02, 2018, 08:59:28 AM

The idea of the so called 'trinity' makes no sense at all, imo.
It makes perfect sense if you read it as a desperate attempt to make a polytheistic religion seem like a monotheistic one.

Apparently, the fewe gods there are in your religion, the better it is.
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Re: Religion has stepped on science's turf?
« Reply #230 on: December 02, 2018, 10:57:59 AM »
Quote from: jeremyp on December 02, 2018, 10:50:06 AM
It makes perfect sense if you read it as a desperate attempt to make a polytheistic religion seem like a monotheistic one.

Apparently, the fewe gods there are in your religion, the better it is.


You could be right.
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Re: Religion has stepped on science's turf?
« Reply #231 on: December 02, 2018, 03:56:23 PM »
Quote from: Littleroses on December 02, 2018, 10:34:48 AM
Nonsensical.
You have yet to be enlightened either by the holy spirit or removing your head from that dark and dank place and actually paying attention to what is being said to you.

Same goes for Jeremy.

If you have merely had your parents faitn then it is questionable whether you have been a christian.
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Re: Religion has stepped on science's turf?
« Reply #232 on: December 02, 2018, 04:17:01 PM »
Quote from: Phyllis Tyne on December 02, 2018, 03:56:23 PM
You have yet to be enlightened either by the holy spirit or removing your head from that dark and dank place and actually paying attention to what is being said to you.

Same goes for Jeremy.

If you have merely had your parents faitn then it is questionable whether you have been a christian.

I wonder if you are a Christian, or you just enjoy being a WUM?
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Re: Religion has stepped on science's turf?
« Reply #233 on: December 02, 2018, 04:46:41 PM »
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Re: Religion has stepped on science's turf?
« Reply #234 on: December 02, 2018, 08:04:19 PM »
Quote from: Steve H on December 02, 2018, 04:46:41 PM
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/eb/Trinity_triangle_%28Shield_of_Trinity_diagram%29_1896.jpg
The links around the sides of the triangle all say “is not” but the links to the middle say “is”. This is, of course, a logical contradiction unless you want to deny the transitivity of equality, or you want to claim that the verb “to be” has some new magical meaning in Christianity.

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Re: Religion has stepped on science's turf?
« Reply #235 on: December 02, 2018, 09:21:41 PM »
Quote from: Phyllis Tyne on November 30, 2018, 10:06:48 AM
Some disabilities are linked to individual sin or wrongdoing.

A positive statement.
Show your working.
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Re: Religion has stepped on science's turf?
« Reply #236 on: December 02, 2018, 09:29:29 PM »
Quote from: Sebastian Toe on December 02, 2018, 09:21:41 PM
A positive statement.
Show your working.
I have done......... Thaldomide. The tragedy occurred because of individuals taking shortcuts leading to culpability.
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Re: Religion has stepped on science's turf?
« Reply #237 on: December 02, 2018, 09:36:26 PM »
Thalidomide
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Re: Religion has stepped on science's turf?
« Reply #238 on: December 02, 2018, 09:47:07 PM »
Quote from: BeRational on December 02, 2018, 09:36:26 PM
Thalidomide
Thalidomide related disabilities
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Re: Religion has stepped on science's turf?
« Reply #239 on: December 02, 2018, 09:47:40 PM »
Quote from: Phyllis Tyne on December 02, 2018, 09:47:07 PM
Thalidomide related disabilities

So where is this related to sin?
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Re: Religion has stepped on science's turf?
« Reply #240 on: December 02, 2018, 09:49:44 PM »
Quote from: BeRational on December 02, 2018, 09:47:40 PM
So where is this related to sin?
It is related to wrongdoing or are you going to argue something else.
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Re: Religion has stepped on science's turf?
« Reply #241 on: December 02, 2018, 09:55:27 PM »
Quote from: Phyllis Tyne on December 02, 2018, 09:49:44 PM
It is related to wrongdoing or are you going to argue something else.

Wrongdoing?

This was a mistake and not a deliberate act.

I think thalidomide is still used as it can help in specific cases.

I do not understand the point you are making about wrongdoing.
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Re: Religion has stepped on science's turf?
« Reply #242 on: December 02, 2018, 10:09:33 PM »
Quote from: BeRational on December 02, 2018, 09:55:27 PM
Wrongdoing?

This was a mistake and not a deliberate act.

I think thalidomide is still used as it can help in specific cases.

I do not understand the point you are making about wrongdoing.
It was short cutting.
There are numerous other cases where individual sins have caused self and others disabilities.
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Re: Religion has stepped on science's turf?
« Reply #243 on: December 02, 2018, 10:10:44 PM »
Quote from: Phyllis Tyne on December 02, 2018, 10:09:33 PM
It was short cutting.
There are numerous other cases where individual sins have caused self and others disabilities.

Others?

This is  not one so you still need to find the first.

Thalidomide was not a sin.
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Re: Religion has stepped on science's turf?
« Reply #244 on: December 02, 2018, 10:33:15 PM »
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Re: Religion has stepped on science's turf?
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Re: Religion has stepped on science's turf?
« Reply #246 on: December 02, 2018, 10:47:42 PM »
Quote from: Phyllis Tyne on December 02, 2018, 10:33:15 PM
https://web.archive.org/web/20160316085150/http://www.bbc.com/news/health-19448046

Not sure why you posted the link.
It does not show that thalidomide was a sin.

You are just renaming any tragic event as a sin which is dishonest.

Do you know that thalidomide is still used?
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Re: Religion has stepped on science's turf?
« Reply #247 on: December 02, 2018, 10:58:01 PM »
Quote from: BeRational on December 02, 2018, 10:47:42 PM
Not sure why you posted the link.
It does not show that thalidomide was a sin.

You are just renaming any tragic event as a sin which is dishonest.

Do you know that thalidomide is still used?
victim groups identified what they call wrongdoing and ignoring "red flags"
If you are not happy with thalidomide there is the nuclear testing programme carried out with deliberate suspension of precaution.
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Re: Religion has stepped on science's turf?
« Reply #248 on: December 02, 2018, 11:00:50 PM »
Quote from: Phyllis Tyne on December 02, 2018, 10:58:01 PM
victim groups identified what they call wrongdoing and ignoring "red flags"
If you are not happy with thalidomide there is the nuclear testing programme carried out with deliberate suspension of precaution.

Where is the sin as you said?
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Re: Religion has stepped on science's turf?
« Reply #249 on: December 02, 2018, 11:33:49 PM »
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