God

[Sriram]

Hi everyone,

In my opinion, what we call God is the highest level of Consciousness.  This Consciousness can be accessed and found from within ourselves.  Most spiritual traditions emphasize the same thing.

According to certain Hindu philosophies our individual consciousness is just a part of the whole and we all are essentially and ultimately the same one level of Consciousness. Realizing this is considered as the ultimate goal for each of us. Yoga and Vedanta teach this philosophy.

To achieve this, we needs religions, prayers and rituals and various images of God.

As I have mentioned in other threads, many recent philosophers and scientists seem to be moving towards a similar idea of Panpsychism wherein Consciousness forms the basis and the physical world is an outcome of that. 

(copied from post 72 of 'The Soul' thread)....Freud on the power of the Unconscious, Jung on the collective unconscious,  the Copenhagen Interpretation of QM,  Wheeler on Participatory Anthropic Principle, Chalmers on Panpsychism, Toroni on Integrated Information theory, Eagleman on the Unconscious mind.....and many others....point to the above.

Just some thoughts.

Cheers.

Sriram

[Walt Zingmatilder]

Hi everyone,

In my opinion, what we call God is the highest level of Consciousness.  This Consciousness can be accessed and found from within ourselves.  Most spiritual traditions emphasize the same thing.

According to certain Hindu philosophies our individual consciousness is just a part of the whole and we all are essentially and ultimately the same one level of Consciousness. Realizing this is considered as the ultimate goal for each of us. Yoga and Vedanta teach this philosophy.

To achieve this, we needs religions, prayers and rituals and various images of God.

As I have mentioned in other threads, many recent philosophers and scientists seem to be moving towards a similar idea of Panpsychism wherein Consciousness forms the basis and the physical world is an outcome of that. 

(copied from post 72 of 'The Soul' thread)....Freud on the power of the Unconscious, Jung on the collective unconscious,  the Copenhagen Interpretation of QM,  Wheeler on Participatory Anthropic Principle, Chalmers on Panpsychism, Toroni on Integrated Information theory, Eagleman on the Unconscious mind.....and many others....point to the above.

Just some thoughts.

Cheers.

Sriram

What do you mean by levels of consciousness?
Why use the word God for the highest level?

[Roses]

Sriram, your thread doesn't make much sense to me.

[Walt Zingmatilder]

Sriram, your thread doesn't make much sense to me.

That makes it a candidate for making a lot of sense.

Yellow smiling chaps and hysterical cackling all round.

[Roses]

That makes it a candidate for making a lot of sense.

Yellow smiling chaps and hysterical cackling all round.

You are taking too little water with it.

[Walt Zingmatilder]

You are taking too little water with it.

Just pulling your leg😀😀😀

[SteveH]

Sriram, your thread doesn't make much sense to me.

Nor me. Well-meaning, but hopelessly airy-fairy.

[Sriram]

What do you mean by levels of consciousness?
Why use the word God for the highest level?

What do you understand by the statement....'the kingdom of God is within you'..?!

[Roses]

What do you understand by the statement....'the kingdom of God is within you'..?!

Meaningless.

[Walt Zingmatilder]

What do you understand by the statement....'the kingdom of God is within you'..?!

The Kingdom of God is not a measurable material entity but is accessed at the existial level.

[Roses]

The Kingdom of God is not a measurable material entity but is accessed at the existial level.

I agree if you mean 'existential',  as there is no evidence to verify the existence of god, its so called 'kingdom' is not measurable as it probably doesn't exist.

[Walt Zingmatilder]

I agree if you mean 'existential',  as there is no evidence to verify the existence of god, its so called 'kingdom' is not measurable as it probably doesn't exist.

What is the probability show your working out thank you?

[Roses]

What is the probability show your working out thank you?

As god appears to be a character created by the human imagination, its existence is as credible as that of fairies (which some people claim to exist).  As had been asked so many times, if god exists why does it hide away?

[Walt Zingmatilder]

As god appears to be a character created by the human imagination, its existence is as credible as that of fairies (which some people claim to exist).  As had been asked so many times, if god exists why does it hide away?

Show your working out here.....thank you.

[Sebastian Toe]

The Kingdom of God is not a measurable material entity but is accessed at the existial level.

Sounds like a positive statement.
Show your working, method of access and success rates please?

[Walt Zingmatilder]

Sounds like a positive statement.
Show your working, method of access and success rates please?

People who start going on about God either somehow manage to make this inward journey of reflection to find they exist as a self and are no longer defined by any philosophy or able to hide behind a given argument or socially acquired agnosticism or they are brought to that point either by circumstances or encounter.

It isnt possible to get to that point by mere run of the mill thinking where there is no spectrum of value.

[Roses]

Show your working out here.....thank you.

My experience of being a Christian has led me to that conclusion, I never had any indication god existed even when I believed in it.

[Sriram]

The Kingdom of God is not a measurable material entity but is accessed at the existial level.

As we continue to pray to God we realize at one stage that we are in reality praying to a part of ourselves and that much of the solace and blessing is coming to us from within.

This is when we realize that truly...God is within...!  Then understanding it is a philosophical matter and progressing further becomes Yoga.

[Walt Zingmatilder]

My experience of being a Christian has led me to that conclusion, I never had any indication god existed even when I believed in it.

My socially acquired agnostic atheism fell apart as I reflected more.

[Roses]

My socially acquired agnostic atheism fell apart as I reflected more.

Well it was the other way round for me. 

[Stranger]

My socially acquired agnostic atheism fell apart as I reflected more.

What reflections caused that, exactly?

[Walt Zingmatilder]

What reflections caused that, exactly?

That there is more going on in people than science or society are actually interested in.

[Stranger]

That there is more going on in people than science or society are actually interested in.

Such as? And what has that got to do with agnostic atheism?

[Walt Zingmatilder]

Such as? And what has that got to do with agnostic atheism?

I think ill let you reflect on that but suffice it to say science and society are not interested in the personal, the self, experience, morals being more interested in repeatability and confòrmity.

You strike me as someone architypically who has to be given the answers short of any potential of finding yourself perhaps?

[Stranger]

I think ill let you reflect on that but suffice it to say science and society are not interested in the personal, the self, experience, morals being more interested in repeatability and confòrmity.

You strike me as someone architypically who has to be given the answers short of any potential of finding yourself perhaps?

So you don't want to tell us why your agnostic atheism "fell apart"...